Topic: Goo Girl Tag

Posted under General

Somebody is going through and deleting the goo girl tags off of pictures that clearly show a slime/goo girl. I know this is happening cause I tried to re tag alot of pictures with it and now they are all gone again.

Updated by Genjar

The user who is doing it is Halite, might wanna ask him why.

Updated by anonymous

Because it's not a valid tag.
We do not use gender based species tags.
The proper tagging is goo and/or slime, and female.

Edit: And if this was recent, it wasn't me, I haven't cleaned that mess up in months.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Probably because it's not a valid tag.
We don't tag species by gender, it'd be better to use the goo and female tags instead.

忍者!

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
We tend to avoid gender-specific tags. Just use goo and female. Never was a fan of this tag

You could alias it to goo, I have tried suggesting it a couple times, but someone aliased googirl to it, so I can't.

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
You could alias it to goo, I have tried suggesting it a couple times, but someone aliased googirl to it, so I can't.

This would be awesome. I want to second this suggestion.

Updated by anonymous

Doesn't this policy imply that monster_girl is also a problem tag? (currently 1600+ taggings)

I tried to think of a replacement for monster_girl/monster_boy and so far only came up with anthro_monster.

There are other *_girl general tags too, but they fortunately have very few taggings. (also *_boy )

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savageorange said:
Doesn't this policy imply that monster_girl is also a problem tag? (currently 1600+ taggings)

I tried to think of a replacement for monster_girl/monster_boy and so far only came up with anthro_monster.

There are other *_girl general tags too, but they fortunately have very few taggings. (also *_boy )

A lot of them have been aliased away or emptied out. I do think a non-gendered alternative tag would be better than tagging them out, because "catgirl" and "female + cat" isn't really the same thing except in the most broadest sense. (which isn't that helpful if you're looking for a humanoid anthro with cat ears and a tail and maybe whiskers but not much further than that.

But the only alternative I could think of was something like cat_humanoid, which would work but I don't think it's anything people would get excited about since it sounds a little awkward. But that way all monster_girl and monster_boy could be aliased to --> monster_humanoid, and the gender issue would be neutralized, and people could still search for those more-human-than-anthro-crossbreed-types that people want to be able to easily find. This same strategy could be used for all of them. So goo_girl/goo_boy could become goo_humanoid, and so on. Like I said, I think it would actually work. But it doesn't sound very fancy, just utterly practical.

Updated by anonymous

Note that it has swept up some intersex posts into it:

goo_girl -female

I think the point of monster_girl (admittedly generic-sounding for this site) is less about the gender and more about a subgenre within Japanese manga/VNs/etc. Two big examples would be monster_girl_quest (LUKA'S PENIS TOOK 5 DAMAGE) and monster_musume_no_iru_nichijou, which made it to #1 on the NYT bestsellers list for manga. It seems to have a wider appeal beyond "furry", and isn't treated as "furry/anthro" because of the art style or Japanese origin. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's widespread enough to have been ignored as breaking the tagging rules for a while. It's probably a common tag on other booru sites, pasted onto posts here.

Some of these don't have female tagged but aren't intersex/dickgirl:

monster_girl -female

A lot of them seem to have a species tag that is more specific than "monster_girl". I'm going to play with the speciestags:n feature to find some that don't.

Updated by anonymous

Here we have posts with monster_girl and the implied monster, but nothing else:

monster_girl speciestags:2

For example I added sheep to this one: post #460852. Others may be more difficult.

flora_fauna added: post #390780

alraune should imply flora_fauna (probably)

Any expert on this character can tell WTF she is? mutio monster_girl speciestags:2. I think I'll add marine.

speciestag:n doesn't update instantly so after you add new species tags they will stay in the search for a while

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Lance_Armstrong said:
Any expert on this character can tell WTF she is? mutio monster_girl speciestags:2. I think I'll add marine.

Is she a moth maybe? Some of her markings remind me of some moths I've seen in real life. And those things coming out of her chest look like moth antennae. Weird placement, but I don't have any other guesses. Nevermind. She's actually a fictional species called "nerieds" but not to be confused with a greek mythological species of the same name. And she's a water creature, so marine would probably be a good tag for her. Info about her here: http://myanimelist.net/character/12037/Mutio

As for a way to tag these without the gender issue, I do think my suggestion would work. (And if we aliased them, then any that get pasted here from other boorus would get automatically funneled into our tag(s) for that.) I agree that it's bigger than the gender aspect, and that's why I think it's better to rename it to be gender neutral rather than get rid of it entirely. I think there's a way to do that and make it TWYS compliant. And like you said, it is a widely popular concept. I have no doubt people use these tags and would miss them if they were all aliased away and/or emptied out.

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Lance_Armstrong said:
Yeah. Just trying to add a non-monster_girl tag to most of these posts before any alias is made.

Some of these have avoided another species tag because the features are pretty subtle:

feline: post #57853, post #49782

Kemonomimi is really a separate genre thing, I think. Not my cup of tea, but it would be good to preserve the ability to query that somehow. Would *_ears be accurate?

(Felicia's kind of a separate case, but IMO we don't need a tag to identify feral-style 'hands/paws' on an anthro body, that would be too specific)

fox for tamamo? post #324729 and others

Tamamo is a kitsune.
I think kitsune implies fox?

Also, there are two tamamo character tags, tamamo_(mon-musu_quest!) and plain tamamo. In this post , other MGQ characters are tagged in a third way, nanabi_(mgq).
I'd kind of like tag suggestions for this situation, so we could alias FOO_(mon-musu_quest!) and FOO_(mgq) to FOO_(monster_girl_quest), and add a suggestion tamamo --> tamamo_(monster_girl_quest)

Common tags in the genre:

lamia
harpy
ogre/oni
flora_fauna

and *taur but particularly centaur, succubus (ugh, but demon female doesn't really cut it), not to mention goo female, fairy.. well, basically most mythological-species tags should be kept in mind (cyclops, giant - maybe, mermaid - which is obviously gendered but we don't have anything better unless marine hybrid will do, ..)

Starting to ramble so will shut up now. Just wanted to mention that the whole mythology tie-in seems to be part of the appeal of MG, so losing track of mythological tagging in the process would be counterproductive.

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savageorange said:
Bump. I've done a bit of tagging on monster_girl speciestags:2, but I have to ask: when do speciestags counts update? About half of the posts shown in this query actually have 3 speciestags.

It's a reported bug that those have been off for months. No word yet from spight or tony when/if it's going to be fixed yet. =(

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Might be easiest to just clean them up one by one, and then handle the monster_girl tag once the subtags are gone.

But the main problem with these is that many are already aliased to something, so we can't suggest new aliases. And as long as the tags exist, they'll keep getting used.

For instance, goo_girl should be aliased to goo. But that can't be suggested before the googirl -> goo_girl alias is removed.

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