Hey everybody. So I have this dilemma, I believe myself to be straight, But I occasionally like gay art only if it's furry male/male. (Human males don't appeal to me) What should I think of this? Also, if I continue to 'look at' m/m furry art, would that cause me to like real men? And would this cause changes in my sexuality? Now, I know that a common answer is "just like what you like", but bluntly put, I don't want to be gay. No offense to any gays, of course. Just not what I want for myself for various reasons. I cannot find many conclusive and fact-based information on how/if sexuality is static or otherwise.

Would like to discuss.

LevoRet said:
Hey everybody. So I have this dilemma, I believe myself to be straight, But I occasionally like gay art only if it's furry male/male. (Human males don't appeal to me) What should I think of this? Also, if I continue to 'look at' m/m furry art, would that cause me to like real men? And would this cause changes in my sexuality? Now, I know that a common answer is "just like what you like", but bluntly put, I don't want to be gay. No offense to any gays, of course. Just not what I want for myself for various reasons. I cannot find many conclusive and fact-based information on how/if sexuality is static or otherwise.

Would like to discuss.

A lot of people say "you like what you like" because for the most part it's true, it's not something you really have any control over, and no, sexuality isn't static at all, and can change a lot as you grow older.

There's a meme-y thing of "furry porn made me bi/gay", but I'd say it's actually true for a lot more people than you'd think.

Philosophy-wise, and I could be completely wrong here, but I believe one theory of Ancient Greek philosophers was that everyone was bi, but social pressure/influence made people straight, and that without those social cues/pressures/influences, everyone would be bi.

If I were to give advice I'd say not to worry about it, and not to think too much about it, as saying "I don't want to be gay" could easily turn to denial and cause a lot of conflicting thoughts. Instead I'd say to just enjoy what you enjoy, and not worry about the labels attached.

Having said that, a lot of cultures/countries aren't as open/accepting towards being gay, and having no idea whereabouts in the world you are, it's hard to tell if worrying about this comes from your own ideas of what being gay means, or if you're in an area of the world where it might be illegal/heavily frowned upon to be gay.

If you are, I'm not entirely sure what to say. I'd hate to be somewhere that I'd be forced to hide my sexuality for fear of legal repercussions. But I guess the advice above still holds, try to be more accepting of it, and try not to worry about it.

If you only like furry guys then you only like guys when drawn as anthropomorphic animals. Maybe it'll influence your irl porn viewing and maybe it really is just that you like all furry porn regardless of the sex of those depicted.

It's one of those things of "only time will tell". You'll still be you, nothing about you will fundamentally change because of your sexuality.

As a last thing, you didn't mention it, but there's also the possibility of liking both sexes, and being bi.

Sexuality is a spectrum. A bisexual person's preferences won't be precisely 50/50, and I don't believe anybody is unconditionally 100% attracted to just one sex. "Straight" and "gay" just mean you're close enough to 100% for practical purposes.

Some people say exposure to increasingly "weird" art changes their tastes, makes them more gay for instance. I don't think that's exactly right. I think it peels back your inhibitions to reveal affinities that were always there. I say this because my preferences have been static for years.

So maybe you're 99% hetero and no amount of exploration will change that. Or maybe in time you'll find out you like males a little more than you thought. No one can say.

My personal "rule" when it comes to sexuality, is that if it's not real, it does not matter. Basically, only thing that matters is what I am sexually attracted in real life, and what people I would be comfortable with being romantically/sexually involved with in real life. What I beat my meat to does not affect on this.

For what it's worth, it's entirely possible for your porn tastes to be wildly different from your IRL tastes. Furry porn is pretty far removed from what sex is like in reality, and liking "gFur" doesn't have to make you gay anymore than liking furry porn in general is likely to turn you into a zoophile or that TF is going to make you come out as trans.

"Are dickgirls gay?" is a question that I think illustrates this kind of worry pretty well: that liking the concept of something as realized in fantasy porn can affect your IRL tastes or sexuality. It certainly can make you less apprehensive of those things, in a way, by making you stop thinking of them as bad things, but it's not going to "make you gay" on its own.

If you don't want to date men, don't let your e621 favs convince you that you should.

Bisexual incel furry cuckolds.

Pupslut said:
Long thought-out reply

Thank you very much for putting time into a reply. I do appreciate it. Your answer does lean towards "like what you like, it's fine", which I expected. That's okay. You mentioned it being because of where I live, and that is a factor, but not the whole reason. I'm hoping to find scientific backing to the theory that *ahem* "using" porn of a certain type will train and grow that side of your preference. That's my mail goal.

LevoRet said:
Hey everybody. So I have this dilemma, I believe myself to be straight, But I occasionally like gay art only if it's furry male/male. (Human males don't appeal to me) What should I think of this? Also, if I continue to 'look at' m/m furry art, would that cause me to like real men? And would this cause changes in my sexuality? Now, I know that a common answer is "just like what you like", but bluntly put, I don't want to be gay. No offense to any gays, of course. Just not what I want for myself for various reasons. I cannot find many conclusive and fact-based information on how/if sexuality is static or otherwise.

Would like to discuss.

That's called being a 1 on the Kinsey Scale.

Fifteen said:
For what it's worth, it's entirely possible for your porn tastes to be wildly different from your IRL tastes. Furry porn is pretty far removed from what sex is like in reality, and liking "gFur" doesn't have to make you gay anymore than liking furry porn in general is likely to turn you into a zoophile or that TF is going to make you come out as trans.

"Are dickgirls gay?" is a question that I think illustrates this kind of worry pretty well: that liking the concept of something as realized in fantasy porn can affect your IRL tastes or sexuality. It certainly can make you less apprehensive of those things, in a way, by making you stop thinking of them as bad things, but it's not going to "make you gay" on its own.

If you don't want to date men, don't let your e621 favs convince you that you should.

kahen_kilon_vittu said:
My personal "rule" when it comes to sexuality, is that if it's not real, it does not matter. Basically, only thing that matters is what I am sexually attracted in real life, and what people I would be comfortable with being romantically/sexually involved with in real life. What I beat my meat to does not affect on this.

Violet_Rose said:
My personal belief is that sexuality, in the sense of what sorts of partner we find attractive, doesn't "change" over time, but that we just discover new aspects of ourselves, or scenarios bring out hidden possibilities that conditions weren't right for before. This process of discovery can feel like a change, but the key distinction is that things only get added, not taken away. Except in rare, traumatic circumstances like being abused by a partner and developing an aversion to that whole type of relationship dynamic afterwards, but that is really not something to worry about happening as a result of looking at porn.

If you like girls now, and would like to pursue straight relationships, looking at male/male porn isn't going to change that. It's possible you just don't find human men attractive and never will. At worst, you might someday find yourself desiring a relationship with a guy, but you're in charge of your own life, you can just not pursue it if it isn't right for you. The most that can happen is that you discover you're bi, in which case, just date women anyway and nothing's different.

That said, there's no real reason you shouldn't just blacklist male/male if even that would be a problem for you. There's plenty of other art out there, right? And then you won't have to even think about it.

Index said:
Sexuality is a spectrum. A bisexual person's preferences won't be precisely 50/50, and I don't believe anybody is unconditionally 100% attracted to just one sex. "Straight" and "gay" just mean you're close enough to 100% for practical purposes.

Some people say exposure to increasingly "weird" art changes their tastes, makes them more gay for instance. I don't think that's exactly right. I think it peels back your inhibitions to reveal affinities that were always there. I say this because my preferences have been static for years.

So maybe you're 99% hetero and no amount of exploration will change that. Or maybe in time you'll find out you like males a little more than you thought. No one can say.

CCoyote said:
To what @Pupslut said, I will add that most LGBTQ+ people didn't want to be lesbian, gay, bi or pan, trans, or queer. It's an understatement to say it can feel awkward and even scary. Depending on your family situation and where you live, coming out might receive support or you could end up homeless. In some places it can be downright dangerous. When I came out, I got a ton of support; when my mate came out, they were ostracized by their family and essentially kicked out.

Sexuality is fluid. Gender is fluid.

I won't tell you to simply feel what you feel. Rather, I would suggest being open to finding out who you are. It can do much more damage to try to hide or suppress it.

Finally, I don't think furry porn makes you gay or bisexual. It could, however, help you realize you were all along.

I appreciated all of your responses. I'd mostly be re-typing my reply that I posted first, so for those wanting to follow-up, I suggest reading that. But put briefly; Im very inclined to find scientific evidence about if your actions you take while viewing certain content can lead to changes in real human preferences, feelings, and so on.

LevoRet said:

But put briefly; Im very inclined to find scientific evidence about if your actions you take while viewing certain content can lead to changes in real human preferences, feelings, and so on.

The field you are looking for is called 'sexology'. But, like anything that shades into sociology or psychology, deriving any reasonably definitive answer from credible research in the field is pretty unlikely.

savageorange said:
The field you are looking for is called 'sexology'. But, like anything that shades into sociology or psychology, deriving any reasonably definitive answer from credible research in the field is pretty unlikely.

I agree. That's a major issue. It gets caught in the wind of feelings and agendas

I would somewhat agree with Pupslut in that any number (but not all) of people have a tendency to lean towards either side (gay, lez, bi). Furry, but also the internet makes these proclivities more pronounced and open to ''exploration'' when in different ages they would be suppressed or performed in secret.

As for ''fear of turning into a gay'', i don't think that you need to worry, if you like females and males you have a bisexual tendency that can shift slightly to either M or F depending on the mood, but i don't think that you will eventually be completely uninterested in women.

Additionally, being a gay, bi, lez may not be a choice, but engaging in sexual acts is, if it bothers you that much, discipline yourself and don't look at gay furry stuff, blacklist it and be done with it.

I hope this helps LevoRet

LevoRet said:
I appreciated all of your responses. I'd mostly be re-typing my reply that I posted first, so for those wanting to follow-up, I suggest reading that. But put briefly; Im very inclined to find scientific evidence about if your actions you take while viewing certain content can lead to changes in real human preferences, feelings, and so on.

As far as real scientific reasons go, all i know about the mind is we assign different emotions to our experiences, which we then recall later the next time those experiences happen. A hug from mother is positive. A scolding from father is negative. From that, one would feel comfortable with females, and wary of males, though that is a very basic example that doesnt take into account a host of variables. What im trying to say is, we're not born with a preprogrammed mind of likes and dislikes, these are all developments we make through a lifetime of experiencing external stimuli, and assigning emotions to them, whether they be positive or negative. And just know there is no abnormal, "wrong" way to feel.

@Noveltwin

I've read that twins develop or have some drive tzat prevents incest between them (which manifests as a disgust towards thinking about sexual intercourse).

In some respect our minds do have some pre-programmed commands and responses, but the question is how much they affect our sexuality, and how much does our sentience/reason have the power to override them.

All in all the OP shouldn't really worry ifhe is a little BI, the "problem" seems as if he'd worry that if his mother annoyed him a little in certain situations that he would gradually end up hating her, it doesn't work that way.

Keep your sex and your romance apart. You're only gay if you're male and you want to marry a male. Sex is an enjoyable activity you can do with anyone. Using toys a lot doesn't make you a toysexual, so why do you think viewing gay porn makes you homosexual? Porn is a tool, not a lifestyle. Just because you like jumping out of a plane once a week, that doesn't make you a paratrooper.

I'm hoping to find scientific backing to the theory that *ahem* "using" porn of a certain type will train and grow that side of your preference. That's my mail goal."

You will find whatever you're looking for. If you want to learn what actually happens, then you should learn how the brain works and work up from there rather than picking what you want to be true and working down from there.

Doing anything over and over will optimize the brain for that thing. If you always jack off thinking about how awesome males are then thinking about males will end up linked with that arousal state and the arousal with males. Pleasurable things become addictive because those signals are supposed to help you survive, so something which generates them should be performed more often (but of course there are feedback systems to keep this from getting out of hand). If you view romance as sexual arousal or addiction then yes you can shift your preferences. But you can always shift them back. Brain connections also degrade over time if they aren't actively used. Or you can choose to view romance as romance and so your sexual activities will have no bearing on it.

That's the same type of thing many feel about furry porn/hentai in general. i.e. i'm not "furry" let alone "besti".. but in purely fictional (art) terms/contexts it doesn't always matter. For you it just extends to non- straight fiction.

Fifteen said:
For what it's worth, it's entirely possible for your porn tastes to be wildly different from your IRL tastes. Furry porn is pretty far removed from what sex is like in reality, and liking "gFur" doesn't have to make you gay anymore than liking furry porn in general is likely to turn you into a zoophile or that TF is going to make you come out as trans.

"Are dickgirls gay?" is a question that I think illustrates this kind of worry pretty well: that liking the concept of something as realized in fantasy porn can affect your IRL tastes or sexuality. It certainly can make you less apprehensive of those things, in a way, by making you stop thinking of them as bad things, but it's not going to "make you gay" on its own.

If you don't want to date men, don't let your e621 favs convince you that you should.

Pretty much agree completely with this.. It really goes for all fiction/fantasy really. Fiction and fantasy =/= reality. Whether it be art, anime, games, manga, comics or just fantasy. Something far too many today are forgetting or ignoring far too often.

LevoRet said:
Hey everybody. So I have this dilemma, I believe myself to be straight, But I occasionally like gay art only if it's furry male/male. (Human males don't appeal to me) What should I think of this? Also, if I continue to 'look at' m/m furry art, would that cause me to like real men? And would this cause changes in my sexuality? Now, I know that a common answer is "just like what you like", but bluntly put, I don't want to be gay. No offense to any gays, of course. Just not what I want for myself for various reasons. I cannot find many conclusive and fact-based information on how/if sexuality is static or otherwise.

Would like to discuss.

I had the same problem. You're just bi, my friend. Use your superpower wisely.

I have bad news for you

this is how it starts for everyone

Fenrick said:
I have bad news for you

this is how it starts for everyone

e621 is a gateway to __________.

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I posted DNP but its in forum. Is this even legal?

All these labels like bisexual, straight are not actual real things. There is nothing real about bisexuality that would give them biological superpower to simply like both genders.
In natural system, consider you are a caveman, you won't worry that you are turning gay, as concept of "gay" wont exist for another 200 thousand years.
Similarly, idea of being straight is also just a ghost following you. Straight is considered normal for society, and everything else is usually considered taboo (how much, depends on country). Most will end up growing up believing to "be normal".
But it is not as simple as that, there is no special brain region that would decide with 100% accuracy "this is a female. beep, you are a male, reproduction.cpp script decided you must be attracted to this particular female beep"
It is funny when you see those memes online, when they start with a top tier ass, but later scroll up to reveal the ass belongs to a man. Prompting immediate hatred from those who see that. Question then occurs, is that your sexuality talking, or is that your Christianity talking?

tl;dr. Dont be spooked by these made up ghostly concepts, bone what you like. Police is not a spook though, bone within reason.
>written by pansexual master race.

Funnily enough, there is an easy solution to the problem - blacklist, if you can't discipline yourself to not look at something you don't want, let a program do it for you :P

BirdOfGrain said:
In natural system, consider you are a caveman, you won't worry that you are turning gay, as concept of "gay" wont exist for another 200 thousand years.

I suspect that cavepersons enjoyed bullying those who are different just as much as civilized people with smartphones do.
Then again, they may not have considered homosexuality sufficiently different enough to warrant bullying.

Been offline for a while, but I've read through all of this. Thanks everyone for your time, btw. It's appreciated.

Everything regarding sexuality is very foggy when trying to find facts, but this has been insightful nevertheless