The tag alias #47357 jean? -> ender_dragon has been rejected.

Reason: The former tag's wiki entry literally says "otherwise known as the Ender Dragon." Also, the name comes from a tweet in which Notch, upon being asked what the Ender Dragon's name was, answered "Jean?" Which he had previously established, by commenting in an earlier tweet on how people took his answer of "Steve?" in response to being asked what the player character's name was, that the question mark is meant to imply his answer is more of a joke than anything. (Timeline: Somebody asks what the default player character's name is, he answers "Steve?" -> People take him at his word and start calling the default character Steve and getting pissy when anyone tries to call him anything else. -> He makes a new tweet saying that the answer of "Steve?" was meant as a joke, and he regrets giving any answer at all. -> Somebody asks what the Ender Dragon's name is, and he answers "Jean?") To top it all off, every post that's tagged with the jean? tag is also tagged ender_dragon, and jean? appears to have just been slapped on there...because reasons. I mean, if Jean? was some actual artist's established character, named based on Notch's tweet, and it was being applied only to images where the Ender Dragon is drawn with the unique characteristics that mark her as that specific character...then I'd see a point. As it is, though, Jean? isn't actually the real name of any real character.

EDIT: The tag alias jean? -> ender_dragon (forum #297544) has been rejected by @Millcore.

Looks like one person is primarily responsible for this but other people have used the tag too. I do wonder why tags like this ever come into existence. Alias it away so people stop using it.

Does quantity of unique characters matter? There's an Ender Dragon character named brogon with a couple of posts. If you see an Ender Dragon, there's a very good chance it's jean? but it's not guaranteed.

There's not many posts of the Ender Dragon to begin with, and I don't know how that affects this sort of thing with "technically different". I assume it would be more justified to have a character tag if there were more OCs, but even one means that 'the' Ender Dragon jean? isn't the same as 'an' Ender Dragon.

Part of my reasoning is that with Minecraft being such a huge game, I assume there are more "OC" Ender Dragon lookalikes exist that simply aren't tagged or uploaded yet.

This is a species, not an individual. Official Minecraft media includes the existence of Ender Dragons who aren't Jean, and then there's the fact that she produces a dragon egg upon defeat. Do not alias.

lafcadio said:
This is a species, not an individual. Official Minecraft media includes the existence of Ender Dragons who aren't Jean, and then there's the fact that she produces a dragon egg upon defeat. Do not alias.

I agree on not aliasing a character to a species.

However, I feel like this character is mistagged a lot. Most of the artists do not refer to her by name, only as "the ender dragon". While an equivalency can be drawn between the two terms, I do not think that just lumping all ender dragons that are not OCs under Jean? is correct either.

bitwolfy said:
I agree on not aliasing a character to a species.

However, I feel like this character is mistagged a lot. Most of the artists do not refer to her by name, only as "the ender dragon". While an equivalency can be drawn between the two terms, I do not think that just lumping all ender dragons that are not OCs under Jean? is correct either.

A character -> species alias might have been a bit of a knee-jerk, but I agree that there should be some form of required evidence for tagging jean?.
In its current state not even characters stated to be OCs have been spared.

magnuseffect said:
A character -> species alias might have been a bit of a knee-jerk, but I agree that there should be some form of required evidence for tagging jean?.
In its current state not even characters stated to be OCs have been spared.

It appears that the vast majority of Jean? tags have been added by a single user about a month ago
https://e621.net/post_versions?search[tags_added]=jean?&commit

I also do not understand why there's a question mark in this character's name. Minecraft's main character isn't named Steve?, so I don't think this one should have the question mark in it either.

bitwolfy said:
It appears that the vast majority of Jean? tags have been added by a single user about a month ago
https://e621.net/post_versions?search[tags_added]=jean?&commit

I also do not understand why there's a question mark in this character's name. Minecraft's main character isn't named Steve?, so I don't think this one should have the question mark in it either.

the Mojang's main Minecraft devs (or at least Notch, DinnerBone) usually refer to the main default skin character as "Steve?" (although it's not something that comes up often) but in a lot of other official media the "?" is dropped.
on the other hand the only times the Ender Dragon's name has been mentioned the "?" is included. her name was confirmed to be "Jean?" on two occasions: once by Notch when someone asked about her name in a Reddit thread and once on Twitter by DinnerBone in response to a joke about her name being Glydia.

magnuseffect said:
A character -> species alias might have been a bit of a knee-jerk, but I agree that there should be some form of required evidence for tagging jean?.
In its current state not even characters stated to be OCs have been spared.

Character names ignore TWYS under these circumstances.

Exception for character names only:
You may use an OFFICIAL external source of information (the artist, commissioner, or character owner's gallery/website) when tagging a character name ONLY under the following conditions:

1) The external source of information is the artist, commissioner, or character owner's own words on their own gallery or website.
2) The post must have at least SOME evidence of the claimed character and can not have any evidence that CONFLICTS with what the external source is saying (e.g. a post can't be tagged "Character A" just because the external source says so, when the post does not actually contain any evidence of "Character A", or in fact looks more like "Character B" instead.) Again, there must be at least SOME evidence that the character is who it's claimed to be, but it does not have to be definitive proof.

The issue is, thus, not the existence of the tags or the fact that most (but not all) portrayals of the species are going to be Jean, but some people don't know the tagging policy for character names. Remove the offending tags, and if it gets reapplied, consider reporting the post and petition for a -jean? tag lock if you can link to the original upload and say something like "artist says this is an OC".

The tag alias jean? -> ender_dragon (forum #297544) has been rejected by @Millcore.