There's a furry webcomic that I'd like to upload; however there are 382 pages and my upload limit is currently 12.
If I was to upload them (admins, answers please?) is there any way I can get other users to just leave the uploading to me so I could sort out the tags and the pool at a decent, consistent standard?

You can slowly upload all the pages day by day. No need to rush on it, just be sure you have the permission to upload the artist's comic here on e621. Mass uploading an artist's works without their knowledge could make him angry and initiate a takedown of all their works, making him a DNP .

I don't think that there're any users here that would "help" you on the postage of this comic, if there are, you can PM them and tell them your reasons.

DatChodeTho said:
is there any way I can get other users to just leave the uploading to me so I could sort out the tags and the pool at a decent, consistent standard?

Not really, a user can't "own" the right to be the only one uploading art from an artist, especially if you're not tied to the material in any way.

I don't see what you mean with consistent standard for tags and the pool. Tags and pools (most of them) can't be locked, so you could just edit the tags yourself after another user uploaded the post.

We don't really like entire webcomics being uploaded anyway; we'd much rather you just go to the webcomic's site to read them instead :P

We actually have a rule against the reposting of an entire webcomic, it just wasn't added to the avoid posting list because I somehow botched that.

The bottom line is, we allow 5 pages of a webcomic in short order, but everything else needs to stay on the artist's page, we don't want to steal their traffic and/or readers.

NotMeNotYou said:
We actually have a rule against the reposting of an entire webcomic, it just wasn't added to the avoid posting list because I somehow botched that.

The bottom line is, we allow 5 pages of a webcomic in short order, but everything else needs to stay on the artist's page, we don't want to steal their traffic and/or readers.

I do have a question on that: how is a "webcomic" defined? This might seem obvious or not, but any comic that you're reading on the web could be called a "webcomic" in the broadest sense, but I doubt that's what this rule is referring to or else most of what's under the comic tag would no longer be allowed. So what is the rule of thumb to determine if it's a comic that's ok to post or a webcomic that is limited-posting-only?

Just trying to understand this rule a little better because there's been a few things I've been unsure about posting because of it. I'm figuring there's probably a simple way to tell the two types of comics apart to know which is which.

NotMeNotYou said:
we don't want to steal their traffic and/or readers.

What if the artist actually feels cool about it and is encouraging us to repost it here for the audience?

The_Great_Wolfgang said:
What if the artist actually feels cool about it and is encouraging us to repost it here for the audience?

Wouldn't hurt to ask them if that's the case.

furrypickle said:
I do have a question on that: how is a "webcomic" defined? This might seem obvious or not, but any comic that you're reading on the web could be called a "webcomic" in the broadest sense, but I doubt that's what this rule is referring to or else most of what's under the comic tag would no longer be allowed. So what is the rule of thumb to determine if it's a comic that's ok to post or a webcomic that is limited-posting-only?

Just trying to understand this rule a little better because there's been a few things I've been unsure about posting because of it. I'm figuring there's probably a simple way to tell the two types of comics apart to know which is which.

I think comics that are regularly updated like "VG Cats" or "Nedroid Picture Diary" should be avoided, but comics like "Unconditional" are okay. That's just a guess, though...

furrypickle said:
I do have a question on that: how is a "webcomic" defined? This might seem obvious or not, but any comic that you're reading on the web could be called a "webcomic" in the broadest sense, but I doubt that's what this rule is referring to or else most of what's under the comic tag would no longer be allowed. So what is the rule of thumb to determine if it's a comic that's ok to post or a webcomic that is limited-posting-only?

Just trying to understand this rule a little better because there's been a few things I've been unsure about posting because of it. I'm figuring there's probably a simple way to tell the two types of comics apart to know which is which.

Basically any comic that has its "home" on his own dedicated webpage (or subdomain, or hosting), and is likely to generate costs for the creator.

So from now on, we are unable to fully post any new comics that exceeds 5 pages?

How about when the artist him/herself posts his/her whole comic here? Like the popular, A Tale of Tails By Feretta .

Which brings me to another question, does this rule apply to comics that ARE already posted here and is currently being updated as new posts are being made by the artist? Like Rukis's The Red Lantern: Conviction .

NotMeNotYou said:
Basically any comic that has its "home" on his own dedicated webpage (or subdomain, or hosting), and is likely to generate costs for the creator.

Alright, thanks! I can work with that.

Durandal said:
I think comics that are regularly updated like "VG Cats" or "Nedroid Picture Diary" should be avoided, but comics like "Unconditional" are okay. That's just a guess, though...

Well it's easy to steer clear of the big ones like "Two Kinds" or "VG cats", it's just the smaller and less well known stuff that you see on an artist's tumblr/DA/FA or such that I wasn't as sure about. But based on NMNY's answer, it should be easy to tell which is which.

The_Great_Wolfgang said:
So from now on, we are unable to fully post any new comics that exceeds 5 pages?

How about when the artist him/herself posts his/her whole comic here? Like the popular, A Tale of Tails By Feretta .

Which brings me to another question, does this rule apply to comics that ARE already posted here and is currently being updated as new posts are being made by the artist? Like Rukis's The Red Lantern: Conviction .

If an artist is okay with it then (obviously) we are okay with it, but you need to get permission of the artist beforehand.

In the case of Feretta, she's obviously okay with it, so we are okay with it, but if we don't have the permission of the artist in question we immediately default to "no reposting" and will hand out records.

Also, a page every now and then is always okay, the wording is "exzessive (5 pages in a row)" for a reason, that reason being able to to show the good stuff, while also sending the creators some traffic if people want to read more.

NotMeNotYou said:
the wording is "exzessive (5 pages in a row)" for a reason, that reason being able to to show the good stuff, while also sending the creators some traffic if people want to read more.

Oh ok! :)

This also means no simultaneous mass uploading of a single comic, right?

The_Great_Wolfgang said:
Oh ok! :)

This also means no simultaneous mass uploading of a single comic, right?

Only for webcomics, if an artist releases an entire comic at once then of course you can post as much of it as you can.

Durandal said:
I think comics that are regularly updated like "VG Cats" or "Nedroid Picture Diary" should be avoided, but comics like "Unconditional" are okay. That's just a guess, though...

Honestly, VG Cats updates so infrequently that I really doubt it would clog up the site if posted here as new updates became available, but the backlog would be a bit of a problem.

Moon_Moon said:
Honestly, VG Cats updates so infrequently that I really doubt it would clog up the site if posted here as new updates became available, but the backlog would be a bit of a problem.

I don't think it's about preventing floods. It seems to be more about being aware that some comics have their own site, and therefore have to pay for their own bandwidth, hosting costs, etc. So if someone was to post the whole comic here, then it would be depriving them of what could be financially necessary ad/clicks/traffic that help to pay for their hosting costs. It's a commercial concern. So if the comic is hosting it's own site, then e621 policy is just to allow a few sample pages but not upload the whole thing (unless the artist has given permission to upload more than a token few). But if the comic doesn't have it's own site and instead uses some general free site like FA, DA, IB, tumblr, etc then it'd be fine to upload it normally (assuming of course permission has been granted, the same rules as any other image). And obviously spread it out over time if the comic is huge because flooding is always a bad idea. But I'm pretty sure this rule about webcomics is mainly so that e621 doesn't end up depriving traffic/clicks/ad revenue for comics which are having to cover their own hosting costs. So e621 just restricts people to only uploading a handful of the comic instead of the whole thing on here. Or at least, that's my understanding anyway.

NotMeNotYou said:
If an artist is okay with it then (obviously) we are okay with it, but you need to get permission of the artist beforehand.

I've been trying and trying to get hold of the artist but I can't find his personal email; the one used for the comic itself is, I'm assuming, abandoned because I sent it an email over a month ago and there's been no reply.

Also, just to get this straight, if a webcomic has been fully uploaded, I'm only allowed to post 5 pages, and that's [Italics]only[/Italics] if I get the artist's permission? Or am I allowed to post it all but only 5 pages at a time (with the artist's permission)?

furrypickle said:
I don't think it's about preventing floods. It seems to be more about being aware that some comics have their own site, and therefore have to pay for their own bandwidth, hosting costs, etc. So if someone was to post the whole comic here, then it would be depriving them of what could be financially necessary ad/clicks/traffic that help to pay for their hosting costs. It's a commercial concern. So if the comic is hosting it's own site, then e621 policy is just to allow a few sample pages but not upload the whole thing (unless the artist has given permission to upload more than a token few). But if the comic doesn't have it's own site and instead uses some general free site like FA, DA, IB, tumblr, etc then it'd be fine to upload it normally (assuming of course permission has been granted, the same rules as any other image). And obviously spread it out over time if the comic is huge because flooding is always a bad idea. But I'm pretty sure this rule about webcomics is mainly so that e621 doesn't end up depriving traffic/clicks/ad revenue for comics which are having to cover their own hosting costs. So e621 just restricts people to only uploading a handful of the comic instead of the whole thing on here. Or at least, that's my understanding anyway.

That's the reason.

DatChodeTho said:
Also, just to get this straight, if a webcomic has been fully uploaded, I'm only allowed to post 5 pages, and that's [Italics]only[/Italics] if I get the artist's permission? Or am I allowed to post it all but only 5 pages at a time (with the artist's permission)?

If a webcomic has been "fully" uploaded, then what are you trying to upload? Reposts? Better quality?

If you get permission from the artist you can post as much as you want, as it's not against the rules to spam everything to hell and back with proper content.
If you don't get permission you're only allowed to post a couple pages, every now and then, but not a complete dump of the entire webcomic.

If the webcomic is already partially here the 5 pages rule is still active, post a couple pages but don't mirror the entire webcomic to us.

And for the love of spaghetti, feel free to actually say what webcomic you're talking about because this is very likely not something everybody is going to want to post just because you say a name.

Aha, so that's why this rule exists? Not the reason I would've guessed, but either way I'm glad it does exist.

If you search for something and get a page from middle of some thousand pages long storyline, it won't make any sense without reading the whole thing. Someone tried to upload the Goblins webcomic, and those got hardly any upvotes. So webcomics don't seem like content that most users are interested in seeing here. At least nobody's tried uploading Sluggy Freelance yet...

NotMeNotYou said:
That's the reason.

If a webcomic has been "fully" uploaded, then what are you trying to upload? Reposts? Better quality?

If you get permission from the artist you can post as much as you want, as it's not against the rules to spam everything to hell and back with proper content.
If you don't get permission you're only allowed to post a couple pages, every now and then, but not a complete dump of the entire webcomic.

If the webcomic is already partially here the 5 pages rule is still active, post a couple pages but don't mirror the entire webcomic to us.

And for the love of spaghetti, feel free to actually say what webcomic you're talking about because this is very likely not something everybody is going to want to post just because you say a name.

What I mean is that on the webcomic's main site the comic is finished, which means all pages are uploaded onto that site, not e621.

DatChodeTho said:
What I mean is that on the webcomic's main site the comic is finished, which means all pages are uploaded onto that site, not e621.

Yeah, only a couple pages, not the entire thing.