Topic: Can someone please investigate Millcore?

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I am getting fed up with her overenforcement of the rules. I have been observing for almost a year now how many erroneous strikes she has handed out. Several times she has handed out warnings for making humorous comments that involved roleplay simply because sex was part of their humor. There was no negative reaction from those comments, but it appears she doesn't read below the bulletpoints that detail the rules further and points out exceptions. When I confronted her on this, she wanted to know "my real reason" for contacting her. I wasn't going to waste my time with someone who thinks I had some sort of ulterior motive. She has also given out blacklist neglection notices for people that were memeing. She clearly fails to look into the context of situations and takes things at face value. I wish I could provide a more exhaustive case, but as a normal user I can't exactly track these things. She has been censoring others and it needs to stop.

I just got an infraction for something I didn't even do. I allegedly tried to circumvent tag locks when all I did was remove tags that technically followed the TWYS rule. Granted, I did it to spite the unnecessary locks, but that is vandalism at worst, even though I did explain my reasoning in the comments. Something like that could have been talked out anyway instead of simply handing me a warning. Even then, I do not see anything about tag circumvention in the code of conduct, especially in the section she brought up. All she needed to do was put a plus while searching to see who actually added the tags to get around the locks, yet the person who actually circumvented goes unpunished. I'm not going to take the fall for someone else's actions just because I've been vocal about the poor moderation on this site.

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I never got a message, but I see my infraction has been removed. Still, something needs to be done about this.

This would be better off taken by Dmail to NotMeNotYou, preferably after you've calmed yourself.

yamaneko said:
Even then, I do not see anything about tag circumvention in the code of conduct

If you have to be told every little rule to behave on a website maybe you would be better off elsewhere.

yamaneko said:
I allegedly tried to circumvent tag locks when all I did was remove tags that technically followed the TWYS rule. Granted, I did it to spite the unnecessary locks

Character and lore tags do not strictly follow TWYS (lore tags are purpose-made to not be TWYS, and character tags can't be TWYS if you think about it), and tags like brother, brother_and_sister, sibling, and sister fall in-line with the incest lore tags (they should be lore tags themselves IMO, but regardless, they're still valid to use). Also, a human and non-human can still be classified as incest, given that we're dealing with fictional characters in fictional settings.

Circumventing tag locks falls under tagging vandalism, and as you admit to removing tags (which were valid) to spite the locked tags rather than an honest clear-headed belief that they don't apply, that would also fall under tagging vandalism. Personally, I'd be grateful for the record having been removed since, while the exact reason given may not have been entirely accurate, it was related to the core issue and the actual rule in question was still broken ("Removing a valid tag ... as part of a dispute/argument"). And either way, it was only a neutral record which would go away in 6 months of not breaking that rule again.

"Im being unfairly targeted" says user who's record is literally for using the N word.

Roleplaying is flatly against the rules. Millcore has been doing their job better than most in the last year.

Youre noticing them because they DO THEIR JOB.

Pissing about things that are explicitly against the rules makes no sense.

As others have said, take it up with NotMeNotYou once you've kinda calmed down a bit. I kind of agree that Millcore seems a bit hyperactive, having seen people get warnings or strikes for things that seem a bit too tame. For example, I remember (might be wrong though, was a while back) seeing someone end up with a strike for saying "Tag your shit!" after their blacklist didn't work, with the strike saying "Use your blacklist" to them.

waskom_frost said:
As others have said, take it up with NotMeNotYou once you've kinda calmed down a bit. I kind of agree that Millcore seems a bit hyperactive, having seen people get warnings or strikes for things that seem a bit too tame. For example, I remember (might be wrong though, was a while back) seeing someone end up with a strike for saying "Tag your shit!" after their blacklist didn't work, with the strike saying "Use your blacklist" to them.

Cuz they can tag it themselves instead of complaining.

I know right?? I don’t get why she’s so sensitive about that stuff, porn comments on a porn website. You can view people being grotesquely mutilated but you can’t say something’s hot without some -18 person reporting you for making them uncomfortable and Milly coming around to exercise the “creepy comments” rule. I’d expect mentally stunted safe diaper furs to stay away from explicit art anyway!

glamdstall said:
I know right?? I don’t get why she’s so sensitive about that stuff, porn comments on a porn website. You can view people being grotesquely mutilated but you can’t say something’s hot without some -18 person reporting you for making them uncomfortable and Milly coming around to exercise the “creepy comments” rule. I’d expect mentally stunted safe diaper furs to stay away from explicit art anyway!

You agreed to commenting rules when you signed up. It was all there. And this is not just a porn site, e6 archives all furry art. Unless the large supply of safe art is confusing to you. The art is unfiltered, but random comments on the internet? Less important to not touch.

And without the rule in place this place gets as gross as pornhub, and it was scaring away users and especially artists. And that second thing is HUGE

blitzdrachin said:
Cuz they can tag it themselves instead of complaining.

Seen that happen even if they do tag it themselves, and politely ask the uploader to tag certain things, same result. Though that wasn't with millcore, can't remember who it was, but they aren't around as far as I know.

waskom_frost said:
Seen that happen even if they do tag it themselves, and politely ask the uploader to tag certain things, same result.

If someone constantly neglects to add certain controversial/often-blacklisted tags, report them. If the uploader didn't respond to polite requests to tag obvious things, yelling "Tag your shit!" in the comments isn't likely to change their behavior either and is just disruptive to other users.

watsit said:
If someone constantly neglects to add certain controversial/often-blacklisted tags, report them. If the uploader didn't respond to polite requests to tag obvious things, yelling "Tag your shit!" in the comments isn't likely to change their behavior either and is just disruptive to other users.

I agree, but shit, this would have been like... 5 years ago or so? Millcore and the current staff do a damn fine job of keeping things in check, keeping creepy comments out, ect, but around that time a couple of people got hit for simply tagging things and asking to have those tags added by the uploader. Basic of it is, Millcore, Ratte, ect, all do a good job, but some moments seem a little too close to long ago. Still prefer rules being strict though, makes site use less bleh and disgusting when surfing around.

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