So, recently I posted a 4chan screencap that featured some MLP-related art (post #565110, found here: http://i.imgur.com/MYeCZqM.jpg . This post was quickly deleted for being "irrelevant to site". Considering that it contained actual artwork from My Little Pony among other things, and involved a text discussion related to My Little Pony, it doesn't seem to fit the definition of "irrelevant" as well (especially considering posts like post #306169 and post #441723 and post #560312 have been approved.)

So if a picture featuring a real-life pony figurine, and a screencap of MLP-related text, and some twelve-year-old kid's random video game character all get approved? Why does a post that features both a real-life pony figurine and a screencap of MLP-related text get rejected for being "irrelevant"?

Because when you post stuff that is bordering on the irrelevant (in this case, 'screencap' is the key word), it's up to the individual judging it as to whether it's approved or not. Your chances are no better than 50/50.

savageorange said:
Because when you post stuff that is bordering on the irrelevant (in this case, 'screencap' is the key word), it's up to the individual judging it as to whether it's approved or not. Your chances are no better than 50/50.

It is incredibly unfair to have an administrative decision left to 'chance' or 'how they are particularly feeling about this particular image'. Given the precedence of a screenshot of MLP-related text being approved, given the precedence of a photo of a real-life MLP figurine being approved, and given that the image violates neither the site rules or the avoid posting guidelines, this image which features both a screenshot of MLP-related text and a photo of a real-life MLP figure should have absolutely no problems being approved. To state or imply otherwise defies logic.

The reason is that there is no reason. If a post violates the rules, it's at the mods' discretion whether to delete it or not

There's a reason it is not unfair. The reason is that you already know the rule, or should if you are posting, and that it's up to the mod whether to approve it or not. So if you upload something that you know conflicts with the rule above, you should instead assume that 100% of the posts violating the rules will get deleted, and be glad when they do get approved. Glass half full vs half empty.

Lance_Armstrong said:

Posting Abuse

• Knowingly or repeatedly uploading screenshots, images under 200x200 pixels, images with artifacts or large watermarks, and/or non-artistic images (motivational posters, Second Life, memes, image macros, etc.)

You cannot fairly approve something and then deny another when they are judged by the same rule. This is called selective enforcement, and is generally considered to be a bad thing.

Lance_Armstrong said:
you should instead assume that 100% of the posts violating the rules will get deleted

Given the text of this rule, I guess we should start hunting down and flagging every post that is a screenshot, has a large watermark, and is not "artistic". I mean, hey, they're violating the rules, right? So that stuff should never have gotten approved in the first place, right? So logically, they should all be removed.

>Given the text of this rule, I guess we should start hunting down and flagging every post that is...

Not if it got approved

>This is called selective enforcement, and is generally considered to be a bad thing.

So you want the rules changed. I'll wait for an admin/mod to weigh in on that. I do know that if enforcement was made absolute, that means less of the meme content you want on the site. If the screenshot/meme rule was eliminated, that would mean a flood of low-quality content that takes 15 seconds to create. Under the current system, if you're polite you can get your posting limit reupped if it goes too low, so the only thing you're wasting with deleted posts is the time it took to find and upload it.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Not if it got approved

"Hey guys, we put up this rule that says you can't post these certain things, but we're going to go ahead and officially allow people to do it anyway by arbitrarily giving some of these rule-breaking posts our personal administrative seal of approval."

Catachan said:

defies logic.

Please explain to me how exactly a compilation of a thread on /mlp/, where someone has a cum jar with rainbow dash in it, is relevant to a furry art archive.

A burning figurine is a kind of art, that troll note send to kevinsano is a kind of art.
I also don't know what the problem with post #560312 is supposed to be. Is it a screenshot? Because it looks drawn.

While I don't agree with RD approving that figurine (or the approval of any mass crafted figurine) we always reserved the right to approve something that isn't directly relevant to us, but in most cases it will get deleted for being irrelevant.

NotMeNotYou said:
Please explain to me how exactly a compilation of a thread on /mlp/, where someone has a cum jar with rainbow dash in it, is relevant to a furry art archive.

A burning figurine is a kind of art, that troll note send to kevinsano is a kind of art.

A pony figurine submerged in cum isn't a work of art? What about that one art piece of a crucifix submerged in piss? Both are, superficially, a mass-produced plastic product submerged in a body fluid -- but looking deeper, it is indicative of contempt for the modern consumerist nature of the world and the reduction of historically and culturally significant ideas into something that is essentially a toy. Essentially, the idea of taking a figurine or crucifix and gradually submerging it in more and more of these 'unclean fluids' over time represents the continual fall of a once-proud idea, cherished among few, into the realm of mainstream and contemporary culture, where it is essentially 'pissed upon' by the bourgeoisie and plebian.

Anyway, post #560312 is a screenshot of Adventure Quest Worlds, and the 'troll note' to kevinsano isn't actually a 'troll'; the guy is dead serious.

From the FAQ:
"My post got deleted! Why?? Am I going to get in trouble for it?

Most times the reason a post was deleted is because the moderator didn't feel it would benefit the site. This can include being small, blurry, meant just to incite drama, or overall lacking in quality or relevance. This is subjective and at the complete whims of the mod that gets to it first."

I'd say your post fulfilled all of those except the small/blurry part.

Catachan said:
A pony figurine submerged in cum isn't a work of art? What about that one art piece of a crucifix submerged in piss? Both are, superficially, a mass-produced plastic product submerged in a body fluid -- but looking deeper, it is indicative of contempt for the modern consumerist nature of the world and the reduction of historically and culturally significant ideas into something that is essentially a toy. Essentially, the idea of taking a figurine or crucifix and gradually submerging it in more and more of these 'unclean fluids' over time represents the continual fall of a once-proud idea, cherished among few, into the realm of mainstream and contemporary culture, where it is essentially 'pissed upon' by the bourgeoisie and plebian.

So it belongs in a modern art exhibit and not in a furry art archive.

Catachan said:
Anyway, post #560312 is a screenshot of Adventure Quest Worlds, and the 'troll note' to kevinsano isn't actually a 'troll'; the guy is dead serious.

Good to know it's a game, I never heard of that thing before.

Catachan said:
A pony figurine submerged in cum isn't a work of art? What about that one art piece of a crucifix submerged in piss? Both are, superficially, a mass-produced plastic product submerged in a body fluid -- but looking deeper, it is indicative of contempt for the modern consumerist nature of the world and the reduction of historically and culturally significant ideas into something that is essentially a toy. Essentially, the idea of taking a figurine or crucifix and gradually submerging it in more and more of these 'unclean fluids' over time represents the continual fall of a once-proud idea, cherished among few, into the realm of mainstream and contemporary culture, where it is essentially 'pissed upon' by the bourgeoisie and plebian.

You can shit on the floor these days and call it "Art."

I would like to step in here real quick.

We, as a team, communicate daily on the type of content that we allow. We have placed internal rules for our team on what is acceptable, in an attempt to remove the guesswork. That post failed our "primarily furry" rule, in that the main focus of the post must be furry.

In Catachan's example, the main focus was actually the text boxes and community response. It was neither art, artistic, nor furry-centric. It's not enough to 'just have MLP in it', or to be from a MLP forum. Although, I suspect you knew that.