Topic: Is there a way to execute a search specifically for males canines?

Posted under General

I know what you may be thinking, simply search for literally "Male canine", but the problem there is that the "male" trait may not actually belong to the canine himself. For example, a male human and female canine still has the tags male (because of the human) and canine (because of the female canine). Maybe the human is penetrating the female canine, so one could exclude the tag, filtering the results, but then other unwanted results are bound to arise.

Strangely enough, we actually do have a human_male tag, but literally only one post has it, so that wouldn't do the trick.

ketchupee1 said:
I know what you may be thinking, simply search for literally "Male canine", but the problem there is that the "male" trait may not actually belong to the canine himself. For example, a male human and female canine still has the tags male (because of the human) and canine (because of the female canine). Maybe the human is penetrating the female canine, so one could exclude the tag, filtering the results, but then other unwanted results are bound to arise.

Strangely enough, we actually do have a human_male tag, but literally only one post has it, so that wouldn't do the trick.

Add the word "Solo" maybe?

ketchupee1 said:
I know what you may be thinking, simply search for literally "Male canine", but the problem there is that the "male" trait may not actually belong to the canine himself. For example, a male human and female canine still has the tags male (because of the human) and canine (because of the female canine). Maybe the human is penetrating the female canine, so one could exclude the tag, filtering the results, but then other unwanted results are bound to arise.

Strangely enough, we actually do have a human_male tag, but literally only one post has it, so that wouldn't do the trick.

Unfortunately, no. The best you can do is make your search more specific in some cases to rule out some unlikely matches. For example, instead of searching male/female canine human, you could search:

  • male/female canine human female_on_anthro <- if you want sex acts with an anthro male canine and female human (may not work when there's more than two characters present). This search is limited to sex acts.
  • male female canine human ~sheath ~canine_penis <- ensures there's a sheath or canine penis in the picture, almost ensuring a male canine (but will also exclude male canines without a sheath or canine penis or with no genitalia visible in the picture)

But in general, there's no way to search "male canine". It's a limitation of the tagging/search system.

But in general, there's no way to search "male canine". It's a limitation of the tagging/search system.

bet?
~male -female -intersex -ambiguous_gender canine ~male_(lore)

you could go even more thorough including subtracting different general taxonomy trees from the search such as felid, bovid, reptile, amphibian, equid, bird ect to clear out results with non-canids.

@ketchupee1
give a specific criteria for the content you're looking for or looking to blacklist and getting a set of tags to go with it shouldn't be hard to produce.

Updated

there used to be, just Male_Solo would work fine, but in recent months the solo tags and many other very common tags were nuked without explanation. now, the only way to get just males, without gay action, is to blacklist or '-' about 15 other tags, and it still wont work because nobody is making sure posts are tagged correctly, or things get muddled where a clearly female character is tagged under male because it has the trans(lore) tag or some bs.

find myself going to r34 more and more bc of these decisions, but a bunch of my fav artists dont post to r34.

ta'sier_aussar said:
there used to be, just Male_Solo would work fine, but in recent months the solo tags and many other very common tags were nuked without explanation. now, the only way to get just males, without gay action, is to blacklist or '-' about 15 other tags, and it still wont work because nobody is making sure posts are tagged correctly, or things get muddled where a clearly female character is tagged under male because it has the trans(lore) tag or some bs.

What's the difference beween searching for male_soloand searching for solo male?

Anyhoo, in my fantasies I've seen how we could make object tagging instead of keyword tagging. There you could attach several attributes to particular elements within a posting. (human(blonde_hair athletic left_arm(bound behind_back) right_arm(hand(fist holding_leash)) kneeling) dog(feral collar(leash)) human(young holding(ball))) But that would be too much work to maintain manually, considering that even now we are quite shorthanded with the 2,5 million postings.

bitwolfy said:
If by "recent months" you mean almost 7 years ago, sure.
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/6481
https://e621.net/tag_aliases/6472

when i said recent i meant the last 3(4?) years of crusading being done on tags. Tons of tags have been nuked or combined under much broader tags, a big example here is how bara, hyper muscle, heavily muscle, fit and abs (and im sure a couple more) are ALL under "muscular", making it impossible to search "male solo" without seeing hundreds of bara/hyper muscle pieces

and this expands to other tags, so while on a small scale in one tag it doesnt seem large... youre talking a hundred thousand posts under "solo male" that a thousand at a time are being shoved into these large broad over-arching terms.

and if you REALLY want to get into it, lets bring up loophole tagging which has been a frontline issue since day 1. im of course referencing where artists intentionally tag photos with something like 'feet' (a VERY broad and COMPLETELY useless tag) but intentionally do not use the foot_fetish or foot_focus tags to avoid the reduced traffic from blacklisters, and yes, its intentional, because many of these artists have been warned a dozen times and have a mountain of comments aski g them to make sure to properly tag their image.

but ooooh nooooo look at the scary ban hammer hovering above me. 20 mods to check thousands of posts each day, constantly overwhelmed, but you never seem to have trouble reading and answering almost every single forum comment.
:/

ta'sier_aussar said:
when i said recent i meant the last 3(4?) years of crusading being done on tags.

Today I learned that "in the recent months" means "the last 3-4 years".

ta'sier_aussar said:
Tons of tags have been nuked or combined under much broader tags, a big example here is how bara, hyper muscle, heavily muscle, fit and abs (and im sure a couple more) are ALL under "muscular", making it impossible to search "male solo" without seeing hundreds of bara/hyper muscle pieces

... what the hell are you talking about?
Bara, hyper_muscles, fit/athletic and abs are all separate tags, they have not been aliased to muscular. Hyper_muscles implies "muscular", because it's not possible to have hyper muscles without being muscular.
Here are all the tags aliased to "muscular": https://e621.net/tag_aliases?search[name_matches]=muscular. As you can see, there aren't a lot of them.

If you want to search for solo males without muscles, just search male solo -muscular -abs -pecs. I'm not sure why that's a problem.

ta'sier_aussar said:
and if you REALLY want to get into it, lets bring up loophole tagging which has been a frontline issue since day 1. im of course referencing where artists intentionally tag photos with something like 'feet' (a VERY broad and COMPLETELY useless tag) but intentionally do not use the foot_fetish or foot_focus tags to avoid the reduced traffic from blacklisters, and yes, its intentional, because many of these artists have been warned a dozen times and have a mountain of comments aski g them to make sure to properly tag their image.

If you see that happening – artists intentionally not tagging fetishes – you can report them. People were given warnings and even bans for that sort of thing in the past.
I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic, though. It's not a problem that can be solved with a clever alias or implication.

ta'sier_aussar said:
but ooooh nooooo look at the scary ban hammer hovering above me. 20 mods to check thousands of posts each day, constantly overwhelmed, but you never seem to have trouble reading and answering almost every single forum comment.

I'm not here to ban people, especially for not agreeing with me.
I have been elevated to an admin position specifically to help out with aliases and implications, which is why I'm engaging in forum topics about aliases and implications.

ta'sier_aussar said:
when i said recent i meant the last 3(4?) years of crusading being done on tags. Tons of tags have been nuked or combined under much broader tags, a big example here is how bara, hyper muscle, heavily muscle, fit and abs (and im sure a couple more) are ALL under "muscular", making it impossible to search "male solo" without seeing hundreds of bara/hyper muscle pieces

and this expands to other tags, so while on a small scale in one tag it doesnt seem large... youre talking a hundred thousand posts under "solo male" that a thousand at a time are being shoved into these large broad over-arching terms.

I just can't understand what you are saying here.

https://e621.net/posts?tags=solo+male+-hyper_muscules+-bara

What is the problem with that search? I'm not familiar with "bara" (nowadays renamed as "barazoku" by an alias, but aliases are considered when doing searches, so either works)

That search finds all the (properly tagged) posts with only one character ("solo") that is a male ("male") and is not hyper_muscular (or bigger) or bara. barazoku (nor bara) is not aliased or implicated to "muscular", so you have to add -barato your search, if you want not to see "hundreds of bara pieces". -muscular takes care of "hundreds of muscular pieces". If you don't want to exclude all muscular, only hyper muscle pieces and bigger, then -hyper_muscles takes care of that.

"to search "male solo" without seeing hundreds of bara/hyper muscle pieces" you just search male solo -bara -hyper_muscles

And least of all do I see how a single tag male_solo would resolve this or function any better than male solo pair.

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