Topic: alias scribbles -> sketch | BUR

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create alias scribbles (74) -> sketch (138440)
create alias scribble (6) -> sketch (138440)

Reason: Being used as sketch.

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Topic: Scribbles Disambiguation BUR

create alias scribbles -> scribbles_(disambiguation)
create alias scribble -> scribbles_(disambiguation)

Reason: Ambiguous tag, scribble is at the artist category for reasons? There's one post that could explain that: post #1666178, the signature name seems to be "scribbles", but there's no source... I think I found a source on a site, but I'm not confident in opening it as I never visited it before. Anyway... it's seems that most people are using it to refer to sketch, same thing for scribbles, but this one is at the character category.

There are also several scribble* tags which could be another reason to support this disambiguation. And what about scrible tag, which is a character tag and it seems... about right? Should I alias this one to disambiguation and put the character owner suffix or it's fine to let it?

Edit: Changed aliases to sketch, new reason, new title.

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sieghelm_lockayer said:
And what about scrible tag, which is a character tag and it seems... about right? Should I alias this one to disambiguation and put the character owner suffix or it's fine to let it?

I may suggest changing it to have a character owner suffix, just to ensure it's not used on accident as a typo for scribble. Though if it's not a common misspelling, I don't have a strong opinion on it.

watsit said:
I may suggest changing it to have a character owner suffix, just to ensure it's not used on accident as a typo for scribble.

That's indeed the name of the character "Scrible". The only posts tagged with it were from that character, but I changed it to put the owner suffix on all of them: scrible_(scriblewible).

watsit said:
Though if it's not a common misspelling, I don't have a strong opinion on it.

Yeah I think I'll let it out from this BUR, there were only 3 posts tagged as such to refer to the character, I don't think it's a common misspelling for "scribbles".

Wow, and not a single post featuring the scribbles from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends.

I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I try to avoid disambiguations unless there is no other option as they just create bloat and turn into projects that become messes.

rainbow_dash said:

I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I try to avoid disambiguations unless there is no other option as they just create bloat and turn into projects that become messes.

I feel (quite strongly) the same way, although there seem to be at least a couple different characters called “scribbles,” and scribble is apparently an artist along with… well, I’m not sure what the others under that tag are being used for. A disambiguation might be best if this becomes a constant source of mistagging.

The only alternative I can see is to manually separate the posts into the artist (add an (artist) suffix to it, of course), the various characters into their own tags, and whatever else might be in there, then alias them both to sketch, since that seems like a logical alias, and a large number of these are sketches anyway.

rainbow_dash said:
Wow, and not a single post featuring the scribbles from Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends.

I'm not sure how I feel about this one. I try to avoid disambiguations unless there is no other option as they just create bloat and turn into projects that become messes.

scaliespe said:
I feel (quite strongly) the same way, although there seem to be at least a couple different characters called “scribbles,” and scribble is apparently an artist along with… well, I’m not sure what the others under that tag are being used for. A disambiguation might be best if this becomes a constant source of mistagging.

The only alternative I can see is to manually separate the posts into the artist (add an (artist) suffix to it, of course), the various characters into their own tags, and whatever else might be in there, then alias them both to sketch, since that seems like a logical alias, and a large number of these are sketches anyway.

Reviewed everything under scribble and scribbles.

scribble got separated into:

Not sure:

  • post #327554, scribble seems to be used for the scribbles/sketch at the chalkboard, but I don't know if there's a non-meta tag for that.
  • post #1355324, no idea whatsoever, maybe they used it to mean the action_lines/emanata?

scribbles got separated into:

The rest seems to mean sketch, so are y'all still wanting to change this BUR to alias scribbles/scribble to sketch instead, I'll change if you're sure.

sieghelm_lockayer said:

I'm pretty sure it's referring to the squiggly emanata above the guy's head in the center right panel. I'm sure we can find a better tag for that... it seems to be a cartoonish way of depicting confusion or frustration. We have a tag for that, don't we?

The rest seems to mean sketch, so are y'all still wanting to change this BUR to alias scribbles/scribble to sketch instead, I'll change if you're sure.

I think that would be best, yeah.

scaliespe said:
I'm pretty sure it's referring to the squiggly emanata above the guy's head in the center right panel. I'm sure we can find a better tag for that... it seems to be a cartoonish way of depicting confusion or frustration. We have a tag for that, don't we?
I think that would be best, yeah.

Changed to alias scribble(s) to sketch. I think these scribbles are a type of grawlixes, but I'm not sure.

sieghelm_lockayer said:
Changed to alias scribble(s) to sketch. I think these scribbles are a type of grawlixes, but I'm not sure.

Mmh, no, I don’t think that’s right. Grawlixes appear in text as a form of censorship. That’s just a floating scribble above the guy’s head. I’ve seen it before in cartoons, though. There’s got to be a name for it. Do we have any cartoon experts in here?

scaliespe said:
Mmh, no, I don’t think that’s right. Grawlixes appear in text as a form of censorship. That’s just a floating scribble above the guy’s head. I’ve seen it before in cartoons, though. There’s got to be a name for it. Do we have any cartoon experts in here?

Searching for "floating scribbles at character head" on Google, I found only a Reddit post that seemed to have some kind of relevance: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatstheword/comments/8f3hv9/wtw_for_the_cloud_of_scribbles_over_a_characters/

The top comment suggest this comic effect as a mixture of grawlixes + spurls. Dunno about the validity of that statement, but by searching "spurls comicana" I found some examples that were close to that, but less scribbly. So the conclusion of it being a mixture seems reasonable.

sieghelm_lockayer said:
Searching for "floating scribbles at character head" on Google, I found only a Reddit post that seemed to have some kind of relevance: https://www.reddit.com/r/whatstheword/comments/8f3hv9/wtw_for_the_cloud_of_scribbles_over_a_characters/

The top comment suggest this comic effect as a mixture of grawlixes + spurls. Dunno about the validity of that statement, but by searching "spurls comicana" I found some examples that were close to that, but less scribbly. So the conclusion of it being a mixture seems reasonable.

Eh… yeah, not sure there’s a name for that particular thing after all. The spurl isn’t quite right, either, though it’s close. If there is an actual name for it, it might be too niche to bother making a tag for it. Even spurl hasn’t been used yet. I think we should just call it emanata, and use that as the generic umbrella tag for all these little symbolic expressions.

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