Disclaimer: I just had finals week and I'm kinda rambley, so I apologize if this isn't grammatically sound.

This, of course isn't just limited to bandai, but there are a few implied copyright tags that seem to have questionable utility.

• bandai - 9421 posts
• bandai -digimon -legendz (current implications) - 4 posts

• sega - 12490 posts
• sega -sonic_(series) - 132 posts

We don't imply hasbro for transformers, my_little_pony, and littlest_pet_shop; we don't imply blizzard_(copyright) for warcraft; we don't imply dreamworks for kung_fu_panda; and final_fantasy doesn't imply square_enix...so why do we use these other ones?

There are a couple that seem practical to use, disney, nintendo, and some of the superhero-related ones possibly. And partially because of that, I'm not saying I support nuking all of these, and partially because...yes they are the owner, copyright laws, etc. I just question the utility of implying a copyright tag when it's basically being used as a synonym for another tag (i.e., only 1-2 things are implied to it).

Maybe everything by Bandai that isn't Digimon is just really under-tagged.

Still, I can't imagine why anyone would need to search for Bandai and Bandai only

maybe we should imply dreamworks to dreamworks movies?

Does it hurt anything?

Here's some Bandai franchises: digimon, thundercats, ben 10, one piece, teen titans, power rangers, dig dug, dragon ball, dark souls, etc.

Lumping all of those under the same tag seems pointless. Which is probably why nobody's bothered to implicate those.

Related discussion forum #101760
IMO all tags like these should be deleted - even nintendo. I don't know why microsoft was revived considered that nobody bothered to revive hasbro tag which would have bigger count on the site right now. These tags are just to broad, and things tagged with them are too loosely connected to be useful in tagging or blacklisting.

Halite said:
Does it hurt anything?

Yes, I kick the puppy every time I see such tag.

Granberia said:
Related discussion forum #101760
IMO all tags like these should be deleted - even nintendo. I don't know why microsoft was revived considered that nobody bothered to revive hasbro tag which would have bigger count on the site right now. These tags are just to broad, and things tagged with them are too loosely connected to be useful in tagging or blacklisting.

Yes, I kick the puppy every time I see such tag.

In that thread the head admin was in favor of keeping these tags as long as they aren't too broad.
Also, I feel I should point out that Husky wasn't an admin at the time of that thread(if I remember correctly).

Halite said:
In that thread the head admin was in favor of keeping these tags as long as they aren't too broad.

Rainbow Dash posted this post below in that thread and EDF didn't object.

Rainbow Dash said:
Also Hasbro was just so large and encompassing that it served little purpose as their content was also greatly varied. Nintendo is huge too but has similar content. I think we can all agree on that part

So apparently "similar content" is supposed to be a reason for tag to stay. To be honest I fail to see how Nintendo has "similar content" and Hasbro doesn't. It's more like quickly made up excuse why nintendo should stay while hasbro is aliased.
And if I get it correctly, Microsoft only got dealiased because it doesn't have much pictures tagged with this tag. Does this means that if Microsoft release some decent software with furry content and it will gain more tags then microsoft tag will suddenly become invalid? IMO whole reasoning, to allow tags unless they are popular, is just stupid. Either nuke them all or keep them all, or (maybe - it's still subjective) keep the copyright tags associated with companies that have huge impact on furry community (nintendo has pokemon - valid, hasbro has ponies - valid, microsoft - invalid)

Granberia said:
Rainbow Dash posted this post below in that thread and EDF didn't object.
So apparently "similar content" is supposed to be a reason for tag to stay. To be honest I fail to see how Nintendo has "similar content" and Hasbro doesn't. It's more like quickly made up excuse why nintendo should stay while hasbro is aliased.
And if I get it correctly, Microsoft only got dealiased because it doesn't have much pictures tagged with this tag. Does this means that if Microsoft release some decent software with furry content and it will gain more tags then microsoft tag will suddenly become invalid? IMO whole reasoning, to allow tags unless they are popular, is just stupid. Either nuke them all or keep them all, or (maybe - it's still subjective) keep the copyright tags associated with companies that have huge impact on furry community (nintendo has pokemon - valid, hasbro has ponies - valid, microsoft - invalid)

I'm going to be frank when I say this, but I'm definitely not taking into account whether they are popular or not with furries, and I'm doing this deliberately.

For the implications, not for the tag itself, we need to ask ourselves:

• Tagging-wise, is this tag pretty much a synonym for another tag?
• For Hasbro, it probably would be pretty much a synonym for ponies.
• For Bandai, absolutely. Even with implications from other companies it doesn't make much sense.
• Does somebody want to blacklist this?
• Probably yes with something like Disney
• Arguably yes for Nintendo...however it would probably be simpler to just blacklist video_games IMO
• Bandai? I doubt it.
• Is this usage too broad?
• I don't find this a convincing argument myself. It's a bit subjective, but it is a consideration. I won't get into it though.
• Does it require too much work to keep it accurate?
• Some of these companies are huge and licensing further confuses things. Complex ones that are broad (yes, Microsoft) should not get automatic implications. If there's a flash taking place in Microsoft headquarters, tag it. If there's a furry game out by Microsoft, that still doesn't make an implication actually useful.
• Copyrights are held by different companies in different countries sometimes, which do we go with?
• This one is actually simple. We use America as an easy "okay, it's based here so it wins the spelling argument" so it should obviously work for this as well.

For Nintendo: All of the implications are video games. Extremely similar demographic. Fairly simple to figure out who it's owned by since it's obviously a main company. Maybe useful, I don't know.
For Hasbro: My Little Pony, Nerf, GI Joe, D&D, MTG, Bop it, Jenga, Jurassic Park (iirc toys are made by Hasbro, but the franchise isn't owned by them...who does it go under again?)

And then there's the whole "it's owned by X company from 1980-1993, was bought by Y company in late 1993 but is now a subsidiary of Z company and licenses under companies A B and C depending on the market" and this begins to have as much complexity and need for research as the species tags would.

What we need is this:

• Simple
• Easily defined
• Not going to be 90%+ overlapping with a single tag

If any of these 3 are questionable, it's probably not worth the effort to implicate them.

parasprite said:
For Nintendo: All of the implications are video games. Extremely similar demographic. Fairly simple to figure out who it's owned by since it's obviously a main company. Maybe useful, I don't know.

Not only video games. Also hardware like nintendo_ds, wii, etc
Also I don't think that, for example, fire emblem, metroid, pokemons, and wii games are for exactly the same demographic. There's significant difference between how difficult or causal they are.

Though I think I agree with your reasoning in many other points. I'm not really sure how to handle these tags but I don't think that current way of doing it is good.

Granberia said:
Not only video games. Also hardware like nintendo_ds, wii, etc
Also I don't think that, for example, fire emblem, metroid, pokemons, and wii games are for exactly the same demographic. There's significant difference between how difficult or causal they are.

Though I think I agree with your reasoning in many other points. I'm not really sure how to handle these tags but I don't think that current way of doing it is good.

I would consider the hardware to be part of video games, but that's just me. Then again, as someone who hasn't really been into video games for years I think I may not be the best judge of it. :/ I see your point though.

I think handling it as a case-by-case basis is a good way to handle it, they should be checked every now and then to see how practical they are, that's all.

Granberia said:
Rainbow Dash posted this post below in that thread and EDF didn't object.
So apparently "similar content" is supposed to be a reason for tag to stay. To be honest I fail to see how Nintendo has "similar content" and Hasbro doesn't. It's more like quickly made up excuse why nintendo should stay while hasbro is aliased.
And if I get it correctly, Microsoft only got dealiased because it doesn't have much pictures tagged with this tag. Does this means that if Microsoft release some decent software with furry content and it will gain more tags then microsoft tag will suddenly become invalid? IMO whole reasoning, to allow tags unless they are popular, is just stupid. Either nuke them all or keep them all, or (maybe - it's still subjective) keep the copyright tags associated with companies that have huge impact on furry community (nintendo has pokemon - valid, hasbro has ponies - valid, microsoft - invalid)

Lack of objection doesn't imply consent.