Topic: What about removing the Rating system from the comment section?

Posted under General

The rating system is truly one of the most annoying things on e621. of course rating pictures is a nice thing and can be helpful to sort out good and bad pictures. but there are no bad comments. of course there can be comments which someone doesnt like, doesnt mean they are dumb or negative or bad or what ever.

each comment reflects the commentators thoughts and opinions, there is no need someone else needs to like it or not. since mittsies called my comment as "the dumbest comment ever on e621" !ALL! of my comments get at least one downvote, doesnt matter what or what not, and i have simply the guess mittsies downvotes them. simple as it is: i am pretty new to e621 like a lot of others, shouldnt there be any thoughts like "hmm... he is new, maybe i should say to him his comment doesnt really fit to e621?". did it ever came? no, nobody said that or similar, just offensive and egoistic comments against these ones, no wonder why a lot of people leave after they registered. i would do the same if i wouldn´t have a strong will.

a simple suggestion: remove the rating system from the comments. not needed because everyone can freely share his thoughts and opinions about something, he dont needs agrees or disagrees. (except people like red buttons) the only thing i need is respectful behavior and some niveau.

@Mittsies:
I really respect you and your arts, also your Youtube channel and music, but i still cant accept it that you as moderator call my comments as the dumbest comment ever on e621, there is my cap of respect. i support at least arts which have not a high quality, i also support arts which maybe doesnt fit to e621, AND of course i hope for improvements, but i dont support egoistic artists which think they can do or say everything just because they are known a little bit.

thanks for reading, hope for respectful comments and constructive critic.

Regards ~ Nightsky

Updated by Neitsuke

A lot of your comments are currently in the green, so I'm not really sure what you mean with them all getting downvoted.

Of course though, if there's actually someone who's systematically downvoting you regardless of what you say, then that counts as bullying and that person should definitely stop. I don't know if admins are able to see which members have voted on a comment, but if they can we should perhaps take a closer look and see if there's a pattern.

Updated by anonymous

If i post something, and reload the page 5 - 10 minutes latter (or even more latter), there is one downvote... if not, the downvoter isnt currently online. but i see that if i have like 1 or 2 upvotes, and then reduced to 0 or 1, i noticed that sometimes. of course some of my comments are green, because people like this comment... or me... idk. and no, im not butthurted... just annoyed.

Updated by anonymous

Downvoted comments fall under the viewing threshold, hiding obnoxious comments.

Your comment history looks fine, really. You got downvoted to oblivion once for a simple "nope" comment that didn't add much or gel with anyone else's opinion on the picture, and another time for complaining about downvoters. Other than that, it doesn't look like you've been hit with many comment downvotes at all.

Updated by anonymous

Nightsky said:
but there are no bad comments.

I strongly disagree

Besides comment voting doesn't really have any effect. Other than giving a feel of do's and don'ts when commenting.

Updated by anonymous

31h253 said:
Downvoted comments fall under the viewing threshold, hiding obnoxious comments.

Your comment history looks fine, really. You got downvoted to oblivion once for a simple "nope" comment that didn't add much or gel with anyone else's opinion on the picture, and another time for complaining about downvoters. Other than that, it doesn't look like you've been hit with many comment downvotes at all.

There was several comments, which contained "nope" or "yush" or similar (one word post), these usually got ~20 - 50 Likes. idk why, since it is the same like my one word post, but okay. i recived a downvote on the pokemon flash that got -2 votes. just writed "cant...stop...watching this o.o", and guess what? 1 downvote (maybe 2 already)

and yea, there are maybe some comments which could be considered as bad. but i mean each comment just reflects the thoughts... except spam.

Updated by anonymous

I like the voting system for comments, it protects us from comments where the person didn't think it through if it would be acceptable or not, so it hides weird/creepy/bad comments if the community disagrees about it.

But i don't think a janitor would simply go downvoting all your comments, that doesn't sound very professional.

Updated by anonymous

There's definitely bad comments.
Voting shouldn't go anywhere, it's a useful thing.

Updated by anonymous

its literally just few downvotes. its not that bad and you should not be THAT upset about it. like you should be upset if it gets below -10 or something. if someone actually systematically downvotes your comments, then message an admin about it instead of creating a thread asking to remove entire rating system.

Updated by anonymous

Remove the comment rating system? Have you thought about those of us whose lives are completely devoid of meaning when we don't get our upvote fix? Have you?!

Updated by anonymous

If it bothers ya you can just remove your downvoted comment.

Updated by anonymous

Durandal said:
Remove the comment rating system? Have you thought about those of us whose lives are completely devoid of meaning when we don't get our upvote fix? Have you?!

lol? pretty much, yeah, and now?^^

Updated by anonymous

I assume you know this, but I figure it's worth mentioning.

You do know that comments start at 0 by default on e6, right? I only bring this up because I know on certain other sites (such as reddit) the vote count starts at 1, and confusing this might give people the impression that they are downvoted.

Updated by anonymous

People need to stop caring so much about how their comment is rated unless they have a legitimate reason why. "My comment is +6? I am the best ever. My comment is -6? OMG FCK ALL YOU TROLLS!!! YOU HAVE NO LIVESSS UGH"

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
People need to stop caring so much about how their comment is rated unless they have a legitimate reason why they . "My comment is +6? I am the best ever. My comment is -6? OMG FCK ALL YOU TROLLS!!! YOU HAVE NO LIVESSS UGH"

Well someone seems butthurt.

...don't hurt me

Updated by anonymous

parasprite said:
Well someone seems butthurt.

...don't hurt me

If I had a nickle for every time I see someone freak out because their comment was rated down, I'd have a storage unit full of nickles

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
If I had a nickle for every time I see someone freak out because their comment was rated down, I'd have a storage unit full of nickles

You should probably hit up a Coinstar.

Updated by anonymous

Well, it does kind of suck to see what you thought was a decent comment get spat on by some anonymous person. Especially if it seems completely unreasonable because you were just being helpful to someone.

Nothing to freak out over and certainly no reason to ditch the system, but it just doesn't feel very nice.

Updated by anonymous

Jugofthat said:
Well, it does kind of suck to see what you thought was a decent comment get spat on by some anonymous person. Especially if it seems completely unreasonable because you were just being helpful to someone.

Nothing to freak out over and certainly no reason to ditch the system, but it just doesn't feel very nice.

I've had comments voted down past the threshold when I was quoting the rules of the website, and I don't complain.
I usually vote it back up, if it's close enough to do so, but I don't complain.

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
You should probably hit up a Coinstar.

Don't you have to pay the amount you earned after you put the coins in?

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
Don't you have to pay the amount you earned after you put the coins in?

I think it just takes a small % of what you put in.

Updated by anonymous

Are we completely going to ignore the fact that Mittsies is not a Moderator?

Also, I think it's important to point out the full comment, which contains "may be the dumbest comment on the entire site."

Mittsies said:

Nightsky said:
there is one thing i hate more than haters on youtube: downvoters on e621 -.-

This may be the single dumbest comment I've ever seen on e621.

And that had probably the reason that downvotes serve a purpose on this site, removing comments from the page, or help sort images by score, even though they aren't perfect system they still both work pretty well.

Also, you said that on a comic page from bbmbbf, these pages attract a lot of people who can't stand bbmbbf's excuse of a dialog, so telling these people who like dialog slightly above the level of someone in a delirium to not downvote that drizzle of noises is kind of asking for downvotes yourself.

Updated by anonymous

Nightsky said:
And why can Mittsies approve images? clearly means he is a moderator.

mittsies is janitor. if i have understood correctly, janitors can approve images.

Updated by anonymous

Nightsky said:
And why can Mittsies approve images? clearly means he is a moderator.

That is a Janitor, one step below moderator.

A janitor can't do anything to moderate the users, he has only power over uploaded content.
Which is somewhat significant distinction in my opinion.

Unrelated to that, if you want to see bad comments have a look at the (small) collection in the background of my avatar.

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
I think it just takes a small % of what you put in.

~10%, or free if you get an iTunes gift card or the like (if you're into that sort of thing).

Awesome place to find old silver coins though.

Updated by anonymous

Halite said:
I think it just takes a small % of what you put in.

I think the store clerk took mah monies

Updated by anonymous

TheHuskyK9 said:
People need to stop caring so much about how their comment is rated unless they have a legitimate reason why. "My comment is +6? I am the best ever. My comment is -6? OMG FCK ALL YOU TROLLS!!! YOU HAVE NO LIVESSS UGH"

I laughed harder than I should have... guess I fall into that catagory. I don't like when people dvote fairly harmless comments into oblivion... just sorta feels like sheeple since its usaly one or two people who don't like 'me' or has no sense of humor and the rest follow. Course ive sorta out grown it now I just grind my teeth roll my eyes and move on

Updated by anonymous

There's a setting to change the score threshold if you (also) get annoyed by that, mine is set to -10 since like, a year now ? And I rarely saw any comments being hidden since, except some very stupid ones that got negatived up the butt

Updated by anonymous

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