How should specific ship names (Titanic, Lusitania, etc) be tagged?

Should specific ship name tags be given the prefixes (RMS, HMS, USS, etc), have "_(ship)" after the name, or some other option?

Also, should named ship tags be typed as general, copyright, or something else?

I wouldn't know which prefix any given ship has, so I'd prefer to see the _(ship) suffix.

I think, when known, the prefixes ought to be part of the tag as this would allow us to distinguish between, for example, the U.S.S. Enterprise and the concept of an enterprise as a business or any of the the HMS Enterprises (not to mention a honk-load of other ships, vehicles, places, and whatnot). Of course, we'll still need the suffixes to differentiate between different ships with the same name, which means we might need to also throw in registry numbers (uss_enterprise_(cv-6), uss_enterprise_(cvn-65), or uss_enterprise_(cvn-80)) or vessel types (enterprise_(space_shuttle)or enterprise_(schooner)). The starships of Star Trek would be simple in comparison (uss_enterprise_(star_trek) or uss_enterprise-d). What greatly simplifies this scheme is, of course, the low likelihood very many of these Enterprises will ever be shown in any post uploaded here.

As for the tag type, character might work best as, many times, a ship is often treated as a character of its own, even though they very rarely have any sapience. In which case, I think they should only be tagged if seen externally and when given a specific name (so no spiff's starship style tags). Internal scenes don't count as those are set pieces, not the ship.

furrin_gok said:
I wouldn't know which prefix any given ship has, so I'd prefer to see the _(ship) suffix.

Without internet digging I wouldn't know the prefixes of a lot of them, either, especially with ships from outside the Anglophone world. AFAIK pretty much every country where English isn't their native language has their own system.

clawstripe said:
I think, when known, the prefixes ought to be part of the tag as this would allow us to distinguish between, for example, the U.S.S. Enterprise and the concept of an enterprise as a business or any of the the HMS Enterprises (not to mention a honk-load of other ships, vehicles, places, and whatnot). Of course, we'll still need the suffixes to differentiate between different ships with the same name, which means we might need to also throw in registry numbers (uss_enterprise_(cv-6), uss_enterprise_(cvn-65), or uss_enterprise_(cvn-80)) or vessel types (enterprise_(space_shuttle)or enterprise_(schooner)). The starships of Star Trek would be simple in comparison (uss_enterprise_(star_trek) or uss_enterprise-d). What greatly simplifies this scheme is, of course, the low likelihood very many of these Enterprises will ever be shown in any post uploaded here.

As for the tag type, character might work best as, many times, a ship is often treated as a character of its own, even though they very rarely have any sapience. In which case, I think they should only be tagged if seen externally and when given a specific name (so no spiff's starship style tags). Internal scenes don't count as those are set pieces, not the ship.

I don't see any Enterprise, wet or space, being a serious issue given the relatively low probability of showing up on a furry-focused archive that you note (not to mention the low probabilities of anyone searching for such, really), this thread is more of "maybe we should start thinking on this before it becomes a problem"... or more of one, anyway, given the titanic tag that initially got me wondering on this, with the wiki description and most of the uses referring to the 1997 James Cameron movie.

I'm not sure the "if known" is a useful distinction, though, as it probably can be known for any given ship with an internet search, or by those whose nation has fielded the ship (see my reply to FG, above).

Ships show up all the time. With interior shots. That might be a better question- how/should you tag the interior of a ship? Maybe not.

We shouldnt tag them and if we do its a lore tag but ship tags have insane rules.

Theyre qlways portmenteaus of names with top first and bottom second meaning by example
Boghauser (bogo x clawhauser w bogo as top) vs Clawgo (clawhauser x bogo w clawhauser as the top)

Either way. The answer is and should be No.

*Ignore me Im an idiot.
Remind me to respond after lacking sleep again for more hilarious mistakes.

demesejha said:
We shouldnt tag them and if we do its a lore tag but ship tags have insane rules.

Theyre qlways portmenteaus of names with top first and bottom second meaning by example
Boghauser (bogo x clawhauser w bogo as top) vs Clawgo (clawhauser x bogo w clawhauser as the top)

Either way. The answer is and should be No.

I think OP meant a different kind of ship...

gattonero2001 said:
I think OP meant a different kind of ship...

Im a fucking idiot. Ignore me.

The answer is uh... _(ship) yes

demesejha said:
We shouldnt tag them and if we do its a lore tag but ship tags have insane rules.

Theyre qlways portmenteaus of names with top first and bottom second meaning by example
Boghauser (bogo x clawhauser w bogo as top) vs Clawgo (clawhauser x bogo w clawhauser as the top)

Either way. The answer is and should be No.

*Ignore me Im an idiot.
Remind me to respond after lacking sleep again for more hilarious mistakes.

Hahah, every time I read the title that's the first thing that jumps to mind for me too.

fenrick said:
Ships show up all the time. With interior shots. That might be a better question- how/should you tag the interior of a ship? Maybe not.

Unless there's something in the scene that identifies the ship (not just class or type of ship, but a specific vessel) like a name plaque, it wouldn't be tagged with a name under TWYS. At most "inside", since without something identifying it's just another setting.

(I might also suggest "warship" if it looks like they're inside one, with obvious labels, exposed pipes, and that kind of thing, though.)