For me, having a fursona, is something very personal. And seeing adopts, sometimes for $150-$250 or even more, makes me, I would almost say, angry.
It feels like the artists, who create them, use this to print money. It's nothing personal anymore, but a business instead.
I can see only two benefits of buying one. If someone is to lazy, or just can't come up with a good character design.

So, what are your thoughts on that? Yay, or ney?

I've bought several (for relatively cheap), but I'm not entirely sure what I want to do with them. I can definitely see the appeal, though.

My favorite one that I've adopted, and the closest I've actually come to drawing something with, is a coyote girl that I bought because I immediately knew what I wanted her characterization to be. Sometimes it just clicks like that, you know?

But I agree that really uninspired ones for exorbitant prices... like a dachshund that's on fire for more than a used car... are very strange why there's demand for them.

dubsthefox said:
For me, having a fursona, is something very personal. And seeing adopts, sometimes for $150-$250 or even more, makes me, I would almost say, angry.
It feels like the artists, who create them, use this to print money. It's nothing personal anymore, but a business instead.
I can see only two benefits of buying one. If someone is to lazy, or just can't come up with a good character design.

So, what are your thoughts on that? Yay, or ney?

I think they're a waste of money given they're mostly just color palette dumps on a species or some shit. but you're confusing fursonas with character design in general, as not everyone who owns a character has it for personal identification reasons. Like, characters belonging to copyrights or characters people seem to have as an ideal for something they fantasize about. Hell my character is just a mole I had made up to paste a tagging help sheet to. Even their name is a play on that,

lendrimujina said:
I've bought several (for relatively cheap), but I'm not entirely sure what I want to do with them. I can definitely see the appeal, though.

My favorite one that I've adopted, and the closest I've actually come to drawing something with, is a coyote girl that I bought because I immediately knew what I wanted her characterization to be. Sometimes it just clicks like that, you know?

But I agree that really uninspired ones for exorbitant prices... like a dachshund that's on fire for more than a used car... are very strange why there's demand for them.

Sounds like the kind of people who have more money then brains.

versperus said:
but you're confusing fursonas with character design in general, as not everyone who owns a character has it for personal identification reasons.

Yeah. You are right. I used it, more or less, as a synonym, until now.

versperus said:
Even their name is a play on that

I like the name taugit

...And I clicked on the OwO what's this? =_=

I get people are lazy, but I don’t really understand the point if you’re not going to design your own OCs

kemonophonic said:
I must be getting old because I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

Same.

kemonophonic said:
I must be getting old because I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

Personally, for me it's because I think my permanently-scowling, increasingly-bald real self looks at best more than twice my actual age (no, seriously, I'm 26 but someone seriously thought I was 54 until I corrected them), and at worst some kind of serial killer/sex offender. When it comes to representing myself in my work, I'd rather be a badger with a full head of hair. Instead of, you know... someone my characters would be afraid of.

kemonophonic said:
I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

Let one part of your personality explode... or something like that?

dubsthefox said:

...And I clicked on the OwO what's this? =_=

I just did as well megalul

kemonophonic said:
I must be getting old because I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

I have a fursona that I used to use on some websites as a profile pic. It’s nice to have a personal character that represents yourself. Also, mine was pretty cute, so it made me feel cute :)

I consider them to be on the same level of NFTs, sometimes adopts looks like (and tend to be) mere templates which simply differ in "accesories", and to be that feels kinda...lazy. I don't necessarily hate them, but they all feel so mundane to me.

I don't care if people buy/sell them, that's your money and you are free to spend it as you see fit, this is just my personal opinion tho

ireadabookonce said:
I get people are lazy, but I don’t really understand the point if you’re not going to design your own OCs

From my understanding, some dudes really lack imagination, and I don't mean that in a harsh way. Some folks really can't come up with something on their own and have to rely on buying existing designs. I've met some folks like that before and it still fascinates me to this day

I purchased a couple of cheap adoptables from an artist who actually put design into them. It's a creative base that you can work off of--especially when the design itself acts as a muse.
While I hadn't purchased from trout_(artist) himself, he runs very unique adoption auctions.

Now, if an artist tries to make rules surrounding how you can use your adoptable, then there's something wrong. If you purchase the character, you own it and the rights to choose what to do with it. Adoptables should only be put up when you had a design muse but no character attachment.
Where attachment does exist is for characters who already got a lot of art, where the owner just needed to make some money or distance themselves from the character. In this case, you're buying the rights to art including that character as well, so there's a benefit to outweigh the rules in place for them.

dubsthefox said:
...And I clicked on the OwO what's this? =_=

Hovered over that... That's amusing.

kemonophonic said:
I must be getting old because I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

For one, it's completely different than adopts. Adopts are characters, not sonas.
A fursona is at minimum a mask you can wear while in a group. It could be representative of various likes you have, even those you aren't comfortable showing without a mask.
Characters can be unrelated to your own likes, a way of exploring certain themes and broadening your imagination.

A big appeal of art is making your vision come to life. Buying an adoptable removes that aspect. So that's a nay for me.

Another thing to add, what exactly stops someone (artist or not) from simply taking a design and making it their own? I just don't see how people can't simply copy them instead of spending money, the way I see it, adopts are basically reference sheets. To be clear, by copying a design I don't mean as in tracing, but rather redrawing the same picture (albeit with some differences here and there, and another name ofc)

azero said:
Another thing to add, what exactly stops someone (artist or not) from simply taking a design and making it their own? I just don't see how people can't simply copy them instead of spending money, the way I see it, adopts are basically reference sheets. To be clear, by copying a design I don't mean as in tracing, but rather redrawing the same picture (albeit with some differences here and there, and another name ofc)

ya kind of same, how many characters are "oh I like that idea I'll add it to the list for something to get x artist to draw"
given how many arts use reference material as well it seems like such a waist of money to pay for a throwaway character.

azero said:
Another thing to add, what exactly stops someone (artist or not) from simply taking a design and making it their own? I just don't see how people can't simply copy them instead of spending money, the way I see it, adopts are basically reference sheets. To be clear, by copying a design I don't mean as in tracing, but rather redrawing the same picture (albeit with some differences here and there, and another name ofc)

Maybe it's just the way you said it, but I don't think redrawing the same picture is enough to make it your own...that's still a pretty blatant copy unless the differences are markedly different.

Adding a ribbon here and there or slightly changing hair style wouldn't be enough, ya know? Changes should still add up to something significant.

popoto said:
Maybe it's just the way you said it, but I don't think redrawing the same picture is enough to make it your own...that's still a pretty blatant copy unless the differences are markedly different.

Adding a ribbon here and there or slightly changing hair style wouldn't be enough, ya know? Changes should still add up to something significant.

Pokemon OCs would like to have a word with you. Now, I know that pokemon aren't adopts but similar rules apply to them, in regards to design at least, keep in mind that many adopts also tend to be fictional/hybrid species (like pokemon).

In my opinion, it would be a lot better to have an artist draw you an OC of your own based on traits/attributes/characteristics/etc that you choose, kinda like how you order a custom pizza or car. Besides, many adopts are also priced the same as a commission (from the same artist).

Also, you can get away with copying a design/character by simply claiming you took inspiration or that it is based on x character.

kemonophonic said:
I must be getting old because I don't get the appeal of having a fursona.

It is something that I also never gave any sort of importance.

Now, people that invest imagination, time and money for designing their fursonas, are off course no to be critizised. Fursuiters - a step beyond - neither.

To design something in detail, your fursona in this case, is cognitively and emotionally positive. In some sense, is a sign of more commitment to "the furry" ... whatever it means to someone.

Simply, like others, I have preferred to dedicate my time to other things - even other furry things - than doing that.

PS.

Besides, I am by nature very reluctant to indulge in the fantasy of being anything else than a human being - flesh and bone -, within a Historical Context... with just a strong taste for artistic anthropomorfism.

azero said:
keep in mind that many adopts also tend to be fictional/hybrid species[...].

That's a good point, they're a good way to allow OCs of closed species, assuming the sale of the character doesn't have post-purchase strings attached.

I'd personally be honored if someone was interested enough in one of my species (though none of them are on site currently) to put down money for an adoptable. But that's a long way off.

ireadabookonce said:
I get people are lazy, but I don’t really understand the point if you’re not going to design your own OCs

thehuskyk9 said:
From my understanding, some dudes really lack imagination, and I don't mean that in a harsh way.

azero said:
I consider them to be on the same level of NFTs, sometimes adopts looks like (and tend to be) mere templates which simply differ in "accesories", and to be that feels kinda...lazy. I don't necessarily hate them, but they all feel so mundane to me.

Re: Furrin Gok's post, different artists have differing design quirks that aren't going to naturally flow from another artist or yourself. That's not to say there aren't a lot of adoptables out there which are largely generic, but it's shortsighted to lump all adoptables together as the exact same thing as one another.
I think some of these takes are also discounting that buying adoptables and designing your own characters are not mutually exclusive.

azero said:
Another thing to add, what exactly stops someone (artist or not) from simply taking a design and making it their own? I just don't see how people can't simply copy them instead of spending money, the way I see it, adopts are basically reference sheets. To be clear, by copying a design I don't mean as in tracing, but rather redrawing the same picture (albeit with some differences here and there, and another name ofc)

The same things that stop the same from happening with any other design. Ownership is a social abstraction enforced only by how much the entities around you care about its enforcement. If you don't care at all for future interaction with a designer/character owner/any of their friends/any platforms that care about art theft, then there's nothing stopping you outside the unlikely chance of legal action. But you'll be on their shit-list and have trouble coexisting in any of their social spaces.

azero said:
In my opinion, it would be a lot better to have an artist draw you an OC of your own based on traits/attributes/characteristics/etc that you choose, kinda like how you order a custom pizza or car. Besides, many adopts are also priced the same as a commission (from the same artist).

A number of artists who design adoptables do also take "custom" commissions, but as with other commission types they're not always going to be open for them.

The word has a negative connotation for many people here, it seems, and it's not surprising... there are countless recoloured bases, ugly or bland adoptables that are sold off at ridiculous prices.

There are also many appealing unique adopts out there, sold to people who may want to make up their own backstory for the character, draw the character or commission art of that character. The adoptable design is a stepping stone to the buyer's own creative vision.

My opinion on them:
If it is a original creation, sure!
If it is something made from a recycled base(be it by the artist or a free base), burn down the orphanage.