Topic: Why is there some kind of nazism on the site?

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Check this post https://e621.net/posts/3315386

I understand that there is a war going on, but we should not hate each other and INCITE hatred.

Ordinary people are not to blame for the games of big politicians. All the victims, Ukrainians and Russians.

Please delete such posts, it hurts me to see them, this is extremism.

j_hair said:
Check this post https://e621.net/posts/3315386

I understand that there is a war going on, but we should not hate each other and INCITE hatred.

Ordinary people are not to blame for the games of big politicians. All the victims, Ukrainians and Russians.

Please delete such posts, it hurts me to see them, this is extremism.

Might I suggest using your Blacklist?

j_hair said:
It's all clear.

But is Nazism really the norm on this site? But what about the idea of world peace and love?

That post hasn't even been reviewed by an approver yet, so it may either be deleted or approved soon.
If a post breaks the Code of Conduct (specifically Major Religions, Religious Figures, Political Parties, or Political Figures or National, Racial, or Ethnic Hatred), then it will be removed in due time.

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j_hair said:
But is Nazism really the norm on this site?

No, nazism isn't the norm on this site. There are posts with nazi imagery, but it's an extreme minority (less than 900 posts with the nazi tag), and I seriously doubt any of it is pure pro-nazi propaganda (that it has either historical value, can be reasonably argued to be facetious, or is just using it for style/dressing).

The content uploaded to this site does not necessarily reflect the views of its administration or even the majority of its users. As long as it doesn't violate the site's rules, it can stay here, even if most hate it.

j_hair said:
Check this post https://e621.net/posts/3315386

I understand that there is a war going on, but we should not hate each other and INCITE hatred.

Ordinary people are not to blame for the games of big politicians. All the victims, Ukrainians and Russians.

Please delete such posts, it hurts me to see them, this is extremism.

... As a Ukrainian, living in Sweden since the start of Crimea, I see no problem with this. There's nothing about this that is "inciting" anything, there's no attached message, there's no declaration or statement, only portrayal of an invading force that has engaged in monstrous deeds as literal monsters. I'm also not sure where you got that this site has "some form of nazism" from, unless you've bought into the ideology that Ukraine = Nazi? Those armbands the monsters are wearing are the Zs used by the Russian military with the colour and shape being used being simply a common armband style used by the Russian military. You're not the first to draw comparisons, but it's not the same.

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-nazi-armbands-victory-day/31830642.html

Edit: Nevermind, from your comment on the image that's EXACTLY what you seem to believe.

mantikor said:
I wonder that the monsters are supposed to be, wargs from LOTR?

Orcs, probably, given that's been the go-to way to refer to Russian soldiers.

I think the title is a bit missleading.

It blends in the mind of an unsuspecting reader the appereance of 30's and 40s "Nazi" referring art, with was is currently happening in Ukraine.

The Russians claim that what they are doing is a "Denazification Operation" and refuse to call it "war".

Probably there are remote relationships with that that happened in WWII and what is happening right now. But still when discussiong the theme, you have to bear in mind that are things that happen in their own different time and context.

And so, the art / propangada that might appear in this art site.

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The thing is very complex, since there are some right-winged ideological units like "Azov Battalion" fighting against the Russians, when Ukraine have a Jewish president, and separatists Russians of the Dombass, trend to have a hard-lined Communists-Stalinist ideology, that do not correspond with that of the current Russian Federation, even when implicitly it condones it. And to understand that, you have even to delve into the history of Ukraine, the Holodomor and people like Stepan Bandera ... is a history very complex, that probably only the Ukranians themselves are able to deeply understand, if any.

My recommendation to the Administration, regardless of what they plan to do as policies regarding art, is not allowing that political discussion get out of control in this site.

Regards.

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While one side is clearly in the wrong regarding that war, representing Russians "orcs" is just a step too far and will lead to ugliness in the future. It's not unlike when we used racial caricatures in WW1 and 2, and the persecutions that resulted from that. We shouldn't host that.

My opinion on the matter is, "at least wait until the war's over before posting images regarding it here". But that's just me.

I won't give my opinion on the original post this thread is about, because I haven't seen it, as it has been deleted.

lendrimujina said:
My opinion on the matter is, "at least wait until the war's over before posting images regarding it here". But that's just me.

I won't give my opinion on the original post this thread is about, because I haven't seen it, as it has been deleted.

No it hasn't?

lonelylupine said:
While one side is clearly in the wrong regarding that war, representing Russians "orcs" is just a step too far and will lead to ugliness in the future. It's not unlike when we used racial caricatures in WW1 and 2, and the persecutions that resulted from that. We shouldn't host that.

Considering the avoidance of using the Russian flag or any kind of Russian imagery, and using the 'Z' military symbol instead, at least to me, this doesn't appear to be a depiction of "Russians" in general, but specifically "invading Russian soldiers".

binagon said:
maybe the real nazis was the furry porn we made along the way

The true yiff was inside of us all along.

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