I'm a man, and when it comes to humans I have zero sexual or romantic interest in women and am only attracted to other men, so I call myself gay since that's what it seems like I am obviously. But when it comes to furries, although I'm still more attracted to men, I'm also attracted to furry women to a degree. I can't explain this at all and honestly don't understand it. Is there anyone else who can relate or who can shine some light upon this situation? Don't mean to come here for therapy or anything, just figured this would be the most appropriate place for a question like this.

"Sexuality" is really a bunch of complicated concepts lumped together for the sake of simplicity:

• What gender do you want to see naked?
• What gender do you want to fuck?
• What gender do you want to be in a romantic relationship with?
• Probably many other questions...

These are rather open-ended questions that could be answered in countless different ways, and people may very well have different answers for each questions. However, as humans, we like to drastically oversimplify things for convenience, so we create labels such as"straight"/"bi"/"gay"/"ace" to try to give a rough answer to all of them at once. However, real people often don't fall nicely under a label, and that's fine. The label doesn't really matter, and nobody is under any obligation to chose a label. It's just more convenient to state a label than give a longer response.

As for me, in furry world, I'm mostly gay for anthros, but I'm bi for ferals, since female ferals lack feminine traits such as breasts. In real-life... I don't even know. I'm sorta gray-area asexual. Seeing naked men in porn can be kinda hot, but having real-life sex isn't an interest of mine.

crocogator said:
"Sexuality" is really a bunch of complicated concepts lumped together for the sake of simplicity:

• What gender do you want to see naked?
• What gender do you want to fuck?
• What gender do you want to be in a romantic relationship with?
• Probably many other questions...

These are rather open-ended questions that could be answered in countless different ways, and people may very well have different answers for each questions. However, as humans, we like to drastically oversimplify things for convenience, so we create labels such as"straight"/"bi"/"gay"/"ace" to try to give a rough answer to all of them at once. However, real people often don't fall nicely under a label, and that's fine. The label doesn't really matter, and nobody is under any obligation to chose a label. It's just more convenient to state a label than give a longer response.

I never expected to read such a based statement.

There's too many moving parts in attraction to really boil it down the way you're asking without knowing why you're positively/negatively attracted to which specific traits you're positively/negatively attracted to.

Visually, facial features matter a lot more to conventional feminine attractiveness than they do for masculine attractiveness^{see every piece of media where the female anthros are far closer to facially-human than the male anthros,} so the more animal-featured a character's face is, the further removed it is from those conventions of feminine attractiveness. I'm not going to suggest this is the whole answer, but it's one of the bigger aspects to consider, I think. There's a whole lot of furry art where facial features are the largest departure from human form, so I suspect that's an important point for a lot of people.^{But then you've got a whole lot of humanoids in your favourites so that's likely not the whole story for you.}

Another potential aspect to consider is, regarding gendered personality conventions, whether you're specifically attracted to masculinity, or if you're just not attracted to femininity to a degree that men are who you're de-facto attracted to. Feminine gender conventions tend to have a higher degree of societal-construction than masculine ones, and it's easy to assume that, generally, women in real life will have some intrinsic internalisation of such gender conventions. Meanwhile a fictional character may be either easier for you to project your own idealism onto, or easier to perceive as one specific individual depiction rather than automatically applying your subconscious expectations of how being a woman is going to cause them to act.

But don't take any of this as a single definitive answer. Like I said, there's a lot of moving parts and I'm not inside your head. I'm mostly just suggesting that to find your answer you're going to have to do a lot more thinking about why you like which precise elements of any given furry woman depiction you're attracted to, and why you're not interested in real women.

magnuseffect said:
There's too many moving parts in attraction to really boil it down the way you're asking without knowing why you're positively/negatively attracted to which specific traits you're positively/negatively attracted to.

Visually, facial features matter a lot more to conventional feminine attractiveness than they do for masculine attractiveness^{see every piece of media where the female anthros are far closer to facially-human than the male anthros,} so the more animal-featured a character's face is, the further removed it is from those conventions of feminine attractiveness. I'm not going to suggest this is the whole answer, but it's one of the bigger aspects to consider, I think. There's a whole lot of furry art where facial features are the largest departure from human form, so I suspect that's an important point for a lot of people.^{But then you've got a whole lot of humanoids in your favourites so that's likely not the whole story for you.}

Another potential aspect to consider is, regarding gendered personality conventions, whether you're specifically attracted to masculinity, or if you're just not attracted to femininity to a degree that men are who you're de-facto attracted to. Feminine gender conventions tend to have a higher degree of societal-construction than masculine ones, and it's easy to assume that, generally, women in real life will have some intrinsic internalisation of such gender conventions. Meanwhile a fictional character may be either easier for you to project your own idealism onto, or easier to perceive as one specific individual depiction rather than automatically applying your subconscious expectations of how being a woman is going to cause them to act.

But don't take any of this as a single definitive answer. Like I said, there's a lot of moving parts and I'm not inside your head. I'm mostly just suggesting that to find your answer you're going to have to do a lot more thinking about why you like which precise elements of any given furry woman depiction you're attracted to, and why you're not interested in real women.

Even detaching myself from my situation your comment offered very interesting queries into why we're attracted to what we're attracted to, and I think it helped me realize what exactly it is. I have no interest in women romantically and there are many things about women that I specifically don't find attractive at all like vaginas, but I think there are certain aspects of femininity that I do find sexually attractive. I think when I see those aspects on a human woman I'm turned off and don't find it attractive because it's too personal and there's other stuff I'm not attracted to, but on a furry it's fine because it's not a real person and therefore no thought about who that person really is, and I can just look at images which don't contain the aspects I find unattractive. Definitely an interesting little piece of self discovery you brought me to, so thank you

I was just thinking the same thing last night and wrote a thread about it and CrocoGator linked me here

My post https://e621.net/forum_topics/34651?page=1#forum_post_340787
but im straight and not into guys at all IRL yet I find tons of male body types including masculine ones when they are furries attractive

Like I'm 100% sure im not psychically tricking myself, Parents and friends wouldn't care, People being openly anti gay in my town is not tolerated by a majority of people idk I never thought about it a until now.

The only thing I can think of is have you ever played that tail underground game? There's a cross dressing goat that I thought was really cute, if you talk to him he takes you to a room and strips down revealing she is indeed a he. I remember being confused and upset 15 year old me didn't know what a trap was. I thought he was really cute still so I used my hand to cover his cock or just did the blow job scene where you can't see anything pretending it was a girl. It probably crossed some wire in my still developing brain or something but I eventually stopped caring, that and/or hermaphrodite girls were really popular years ago. So you go hermaphrodite on female to hermaphrodite on hermaphrodite to fuck it I just like cock.

I just had a thought that maybe its because their faces aren't human we can't properly recognize gender and but still go "I like that" I mean the common trope of making any anthro cartoon look like a girl is throw some eye lashes and a dress on.

Feels kind of cathartic to finally see someone else like this, I wounder how common it is tho.