I don't need people telling me I have bad grammar I don't need anybody else telling me and I don't need you telling me either. I mad & i hate myelf. T__T

okay

I get that it can be frustrating, especially people engaging in a language that is not their primary language, but here's the way I look at it. Good grammar makes things a lot easier to read and helps convey whatever message someone is trying to get across. Art with text, for example, can be very high quality, but major and, sometimes, even minor grammar mistakes ( aside from grammar misusage that is intended to be artistic ), can prove to be a big distraction and shift a viewer's focus from the art to the grammar mistakes. Sometimes, the effect provokes humorous comments, but other times it can just be distracting. I think the average person is just trying to point out these mistakes in the interest of improving the quality of the art or whatever you're doing and make it look more professional.

While it's still easy to interpret it as malicious, usually people don't mean any harm by correcting you, but instead to help you.

furrin_gok said:
While it's still easy to interpret it as malicious, usually people don't mean any harm by correcting you, but instead to help you.

there's a time and place for everything

strikerman said:
there's a time and place for everything

Such as when casually talking to someone? We wouldn't learn if we didn't try to correct mistakes, or have our mistakes corrected. Some people welcome those unsolicited corrections, other people don't. Some people see it as rude to not correct a mistake, other people see it as rude to correct a mistake. For some people, it depends on the severity of the mistake. There is a time and place for everything, but that time and place will be different for different people, and we've not yet achieved psychic powers, so as long as it's not done maliciously and/or disruptively, I don't think it's fair to get mad at them.

watsit said:
Such as when casually talking to someone? We wouldn't learn if we didn't try to correct mistakes, or have our mistakes corrected. Some people welcome those unsolicited corrections, other people don't. Some people see it as rude to not correct a mistake, other people see it as rude to correct a mistake. For some people, it depends on the severity of the mistake. There is a time and place for everything, but that time and place will be different for different people, and we've not yet achieved psychic powers, so as long as it's not done maliciously and/or disruptively, I don't think it's fair to get mad at them.

You're kinda making my point for me. Everyone has a preference, so throwing critiques at them without knowing those preferences won't help. I come from an ESL family, people know that their English isn't perfect, so having someone pause a conversation to point it out to them is frustrating and mortifying. Least of all in random internet comments, I truly doubt anyone would absorb info from a "*your" message.

strikerman said:
You're kinda making my point for me. Everyone has a preference, so throwing critiques at them without knowing those preferences won't help.

How would you know without them telling you, how would they know to tell you without them being asked, and why would you think to ask them if it wasn't somehow relevant? Simply asking is implicitly acknowledging something was wrong, which people may or may not find just as annoying, requiring more back-and-forth.

P1: "Here's mine starter pokemon."
P2: "My."
P1: "My starter pokemon, thanks. It's going to evolve soon."

vs

P1: "Here's mine starter pokemon."
P2: "Do you like having your grammar corrected?"
P1: "I suppose it's fine. What did I do wrong?"
P2: "You said mine when it should be my."
P1: "Ah, thanks, what was I saying? Right, my starter pokemon. It's going to evolve soon."

What is less disruptive and quicker to get through when talking to the person? Even if you don't want to be corrected:

P1: "Here's mine starter pokemon."
P2: "My."
P1: "Please don't correct me. Anyway, it's going to evolve soon."

vs

P1: "Here's mine starter pokemon."
P2: "Do you like having your grammar corrected?"
P1: "No. Anyway, it's going to evolve soon."

strikerman said:
I come from an ESL family, people know that their English isn't perfect, so having someone pause a conversation to point it out to them is frustrating and mortifying. Least of all in random internet comments, I truly doubt anyone would absorb info from a "*your" message.

Well, as I said, as long as it's not disruptive. Rudely interrupting or harassing someone, regardless over what, isn't nice. If you're upfront about not wanting to be corrected, fair enough, but people aren't mind-readers (nor can they be expected to take the time to look for and search all of someone's different socials to see if they've mentioned anything about it before) and can't guess whether you do or don't, so no matter whether you do or don't correct them when given a chance, you're possibly acting in a way they would prefer not. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm not a native Japanese speaker, but if I say something in Japanese or try to translate something in Japanese, I would like to be corrected to try to avoid similar mistakes in the future with other people (which is far more anxiety-inducing to me, worrying that I've been continuously making a mistake and no one's said anything because they wanted to be "polite", while me constantly asking "did I do that right?" can come across as annoying in its own right).

For me, it depends on how it is said. I appreciate it, if somebody corrects me in a nice way. If the tell me why something is wrong. A "lol, you dumb" is not appreciated.

strikerman said:
...Least of all in random internet comments...

Actually, a random comment in a video game helped me. I was used to saying "badest", instead of "worst".

dubsthefox said:
For me, it depends on how it is said. I appreciate it, if somebody corrects me in a nice way. If the tell me why something is wrong. A "lol, you dumb" is not appreciated.
Actually, a random comment in a video game helped me. I was used to saying "badest", instead of "worst".

Inverse correction: "baddest" isn't wrong, just very informal.

lendrimujina said:
Inverse correction: "baddest" isn't wrong, just very informal.

It can also be confusing, since "bad" can sometimes mean "good". For example, "bad ass" is generally referring to something very good. To be a bad enough dude to save the president, you have to be very good.

It's alright to be mad for people correcting you, but if you make no effort to actually improve your grammar...aren't you to blame in the end?

Like, this is a furry porn site/microblogging site/a shitpost page/etc, not a Charles Dickens novel.

watsit said:
Well, as I said, as long as it's not disruptive. Rudely interrupting or harassing someone, regardless over what, isn't nice. If you're upfront about not wanting to be corrected, fair enough, but people aren't mind-readers (nor can they be expected to take the time to look for and search all of someone's different socials to see if they've mentioned anything about it before) and can't guess whether you do or don't, so no matter whether you do or don't correct them when given a chance, you're possibly acting in a way they would prefer not. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I'm not a native Japanese speaker, but if I say something in Japanese or try to translate something in Japanese, I would like to be corrected to try to avoid similar mistakes in the future with other people (which is far more anxiety-inducing to me, worrying that I've been continuously making a mistake and no one's said anything because they wanted to be "polite", while me constantly asking "did I do that right?" can come across as annoying in its own right).

That's the thing; you're assuming that if someone makes a typo, it's because they do not understand that they have made an error. But there are so many reasons why this might not be the case, least of all because it's nothing but a one-off mistake. Or, it's just a lackadaisical style (e.g. the many comments I've made without any capitalization or punctuation). Or, they're ESL and they occasionally lapse into the rules of their first language despite their knowledge. Or, they're casually chatting and don't particularly care about grammar so long as the message gets across. The vast majority of these people either don't care or won't like if you correct them.

You can also deliberately write 'incorrectly' for effect. People who are consciously attempting to use language 'correctly' tend to miss that. Characters in a story shouldn't necessarily "speak correctly" IMO, for example, they should speak in a way which gives them a distinctive voice.

It's similar to how a beginner artist distorting perspective accidentally and an expert artist distorting perspective intentionally are not the same thing.

I get around this because I go back to correct myself all of the time because I often type something I didn't mean to, like pressing the wrong key.
The moral of the story? I hate myself.

side_n0te said:
I get around this because I go back to correct myself all of the time because I often type something I didn't mean to, like pressing the wrong key.
The moral of the story? I hate myself.

You ever just skip an entire word when typing and not notice until after you posted it? Hate it

Same, I like to write how I talk, and I often use slang or talk in technically improper grammar, just because that’s how I talk irl. If anyone corrects me, I just tell em to fuck off

strikerman said:
That's the thing; you're assuming that-

No, they didn't assume that at all. In fact, before your post the words "typo", "punctuation", and "capitalization" were never used. This thread has been strictly about grammar. If you have issues where you're getting called out for those mistakes elsewhere, then bring it up where it happened. Don't bring your annoyance at something that happened somewhere else into an unrelated discussion here as a strawman.

00010 said:
No, they didn't assume that at all. In fact, before your post the words "typo", "punctuation", and "capitalization" were never used. This thread has been strictly about grammar. If you have issues where you're getting called out for those mistakes elsewhere, then bring it up where it happened. Don't bring your annoyance at something that happened somewhere else into an unrelated discussion here as a strawman.

grammatical errors would be considered a typo

strikerman said:
grammatical errors would be considered a typo

No, they wouldn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_error

A typo is hktting an incorrect key(s) on the keyboard when typing which serults in a spelling mistake. You can't make a typo when talking to people out loud in real life. It requires a keyboard. You literally have to "type" to make a "typo". A grammar mistake is when you use an wrong word, you've using the wrong tense, or many other issues based on sentence structure. Grammar mistakes don't require keyboards and can be made in real conversation.

00010 said:
No, they wouldn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographical_error

A typo is hktting an incorrect key(s) on the keyboard when typing which serults in a spelling mistake. You can't make a typo when talking to people out loud in real life. It requires a keyboard. You literally have to "type" to make a "typo". A grammar mistake is when you use an wrong word, you've using the wrong tense, or many other issues based on sentence structure. Grammar mistakes don't require keyboards and can be made in real conversation.

Okay, I used the term "typo" to incorrectly refer to grammatical issues, and I apologize for that.

Making Grammatical or other kinds of mistakes while writing, how much it will distract or even annoy readers, and the willingness to give or accept corrections depends on the context.

English is not my mother's language, and even when I have tried with the years to improve and continue improving, of course, I continue and will continue to have grammatical mistakes of which I am not conscious. And if I am tired while witting, I am aware that I do make atrocious mistakes. Reading and re-reading what I write, and question myself if what I wrote is clear or not, could filter most of it. But still, if I really want to put more effort and extra care, there are already many online products that help you with spelling and grammar. So in my case, most errors are a question of putting or not enough effort and care.

Like @IReadABookOnce and @mrnotsosafeforwork said, sometimes you just could express yourself as spontaneous and free as you want, trusting in the Goodwill of your listeners / readers. Any necessary clarifications, could be made in the go. However, sometimes you do not want to give the impression of being linguistically incompetent, or even illiterate.

I have noticed, that usually in most English-language forums, specially sites like this, people usually shows A LOT of comprehension, and is willing to go half-way, and with an honest intent to help That is not always the case in other contexts.

The solution seems pretty obvious. Type perfectly.