Topic: Ok, I got another picture taken down with out of a reason why.

Posted under General

I didn't see it being against the e621 rules, or even getting a slightest reason why. When Husky (Admin) takes something down from me, he usually says why. So if it was him, he didn't say why, but if it was another Mod', Admin, then tell me why next time please, I won't be able to learn.

Thank You.

(And I most likely going to get another list of hatred comments.)

Updated by user 59725

You should message the mod who took it down. Most members, like myself, will have no idea what it is you uploaded, but admins can see deleted posts.

You can see your deleted posts from your userpage, under the "deleted posts" area. Link for the lazy and each of them should tell you who deleted it.

Not sure which post you're talking about, but I'm assuming it was the one taken down by NotMeNotYou. If you ask him "why'd you delete my post?" he'll tell you exactly why. But I highly suggest you do it via a private message instead of a public one like this.

Updated by anonymous

Bj007pro said:
Ok, thanks, but what's so bad about it?

The lineart looks like it's upscaled. Also, you've probably used a paint bucket tool with a very low (or no) color tolerance, as the inner edges of the anti-aliased lines are not colored and that takes a lot away from the image.

Recommendations:

Learn how to work with transparent pixels and multiple layers. If you don't have an image editor that supports layers, find one. Paint.NET should be good enough for getting the hang of it. You'd be surprised just how much you can accomplish with layers and transparency. They also have a great forum community, a wide selection of community-developed plugins and great tutorials for accomplishing different things in Paint.NET.

Work bigger. An easy way to hide minor mistakes and smooth out the image is to create it using twice the intended resolution. This also means using thicker lines for the lineart. Then save a copy downscaled to half of the working resolution once it's completed (keep the original for possible further editing).

Once those are set, learn some simple shading methods to improve the overall image quality. (Cellshading's supposed to be simple enough, but I'm no artist, so...)

Updated by anonymous

To add to what EsalRider said:

For Windows: Paint.NET (free) is a really good tool and I'd recommend starting with that if possible. There's also PaintTool SAI (free) that a lot of people seem to like (though I haven't used it much yet), and GIMP (free) which some swear by but I personally can't stand it. Though one benefit of GIMP is that it is cross-platform (Windows/OS X/Linux compatible). There's also Adobe Photoshop which is expensive but worth the money for those who need it.
For OS X: Pixelmator ($29.99) is regarded in the Mac communities as a solid Adobe Photoshop alternative and I'd highly recommend it despite the price (they just released an iPad app which looks really good, but I haven't tried it yet). Adobe Photoshop is terrible on OS X but it is much better than it used to be (the last version I played with was CS6). There's also GIMP (free, see above).

EsalRider is absolutely right about working bigger. If you have a computer that can handle it, try drawing at a 5000x5000 resolution and zoom in for the detailing. It's a lot easier to work with, trust me.

For a simple drawing like yours, layers are very very nice to have. It takes a little bit to get the hang of it since you're probably used to working on a flat simple surface, but if you don't learn anything else about digital drawings, learn to use multiple layers. They work by having multiple drawings on top of each other which can be modified and erased independently.

Example (collapsed because I'm probably not the best at explaining it)

(Layer 4 is on top of Layer 3, Layer 3 is on top of Layer 2, and so on)

  • Layer 6: Shading and/or highlights. [paint] them on and erase to correct mistakes without erasing the kitty. [dodge/burn] are helpful here
  • Layer 5: Some detail like the whiskers, etc.
  • Layer 4: Some detail like inside the ears.
  • Layer 3: The eyes (draw these bigger than the kitty and resize them to fit, trust me, it helps A LOT)
  • Layer 2: Some black line art, I'll call this one a simple chibi kitty. (not filled)
  • Layer 1: A solid color, the body color of the chibi kitty. Dump a [paint bucket] to make the entire background that color
  • Layer 0: A solid background, mostly for contrast (I call this layer 0 because it's one you set and then never modify). You don't need this layer but I find it helpful.

If this didn't make any sense to you, download Paint.NET/etc. and just play with the layers. Make a bunch, rearrange them, etc. and you'll probably get a good idea of what they are capable of.

Updated by anonymous

I don't think he drew this, only because he hasn't sourced his own stuff before and I don't see any links to a gallery of his, not because I necessarily doubt his artistic ability. But I could be wrong.

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Tokaido said:
I don't think he drew this, only because he hasn't sourced his own stuff before and I don't see any links to a gallery of his, not because I necessarily doubt his artistic ability. But I could be wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but he/she is right I didn't, it says right there in the description the colour was done by me. So I don't know where you got the intention of me drawing the picture. I didn't even put my name in the artist tag.

But I'll try to use both of your (hopefully*) helpful tips. I do use Paint.net for recolouring SMBX sprites/GFX. But yeah...

(* Hopefully it will help ME, not saying it won't work for everyone.)

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Bj007pro said:
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but he/she is right I didn't, it says right there in the description the colour was done by me. So I don't know where you got the intention of me drawing the picture. I didn't even put my name in the artist tag.

I was just looking at the image Husky linked with the context of "What's so bad about it?"

Glad I could (hopefully*) help though. :)

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