https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mfjz507ixk

yes, women draw porn

Actually, the amounts of yiff, porn and erotica that females produce is staggering. Apparently they like sex too. This may, or may not, be surprising to hear. =)

furrypickle said:
Actually, the amounts of yiff, porn and erotica that females produce is staggering. Apparently they like sex too. This may, or may not, be surprising to hear. =)

or maybe they just like money
so they can buy more shoes :p

Munkelzahn said:
or maybe they just like money
so they can buy more shoes :p

More like iPhones and Barbie Dolls.

Or giant dragon dildos.

You'd be surprised. Girls do draw and enjoy porn.

Strange, huh? I've heard this happens once every blue moon, so we must be really lucky to see such things

Halite said:
Or giant dragon dildos.

Or giant iPhones and Barbie dolls shaped as dragon dildos.... or was it tje other way around?

Yeah, lots of women draw porn.

And 80% of the times they do it better than men.

Darkcelona said:
And 80% of the times they do it better than men.

90% of all statistics are made up on the spot and pulled out of somebody's anus.

NotMeNotYou said:
90% of all statistics are made up on the spot and pulled out of somebody's anus.

Like dildos.

Halite said:
Like dildos.

You really like'em, huh? *nudge*

Xch3l said:
You really like'em, huh? *nudge*

I think he might. :V

NotMeNotYou said:
90% of all statistics are made up on the spot and pulled out of somebody's anus.

But, anuses are the best source for information.

furballs_dc said:
I think he might. :V

What's not to like, all the penis, none of the people.

Darkcelona said:
But, anuses are the best source for information.

I heard it's really shitty.

Halite said:
What's not to like, all the penis, none of the people.

But you need that people to get to what's inside. Sorta like tootsie pops :3

Did you know that the artist Blotch was two women?

TheHuskyK9 said:
Did you know that the artist Blotch was two women?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamp_%28manga_artists%29

Darkcelona said:
And 80% of the times they do it better than men.

Not really, women just happen to make art more often than men because it's mostly socially "okay" for women to dabble in the arts whereas males who train to be artists are considered faggy and effeminate, and all men are expected to go on in education getting something STEM or manufacturing related so they can be "successful." Artistic skills are not really valued in males, even more so they can be considered a detriment to them, so if a guy decides to be artistically talented he probably did it because he really felt the need to.

Although in the very recent years, turns out males are showing up even less for education and especially higher education in general, with women just filling up the seats like crazy.

Enough with the creepy comments.

furrypickle said:
Apparently they like sex too.

The clitoris is a lieeeeeeee.

Ozelot said:
...males who train to be artists are considered faggy and effeminate...

But, you...are faggy...
I mean, there's a dick, right there...under your name...

Moon_Moon said:
But, you...are faggy...
I mean, there's a dick, right there...under your name...

I dunno if you're aware of how beautifully you just made a double-entendre.

Halite said:
Or giant dragon dildos.

Yeah mostly these. I NEED ANOTHER! D:

Girls make our porn? That's one step away from global domination.

At least, if I'm reading this checklist right...

Yup

Moon_Moon said:
But, you...are faggy...
I mean, there's a dick, right there...under your name...

So? I bet you like it.

What are you talking about? I thought this thread was about Art not cheerleading.

Wait... "Socially okay" to see only women into arts?, what kind of brainless Caveman thinks that?, I always thought that the problem with arts is the fact that in the average society mostly of people doesn't consider being artist as a real profession, regardless of the gender.

Darkcelona said:
...I always thought that the problem with arts is the fact that in the average society mostly of people doesn't consider being artist as a real profession, regardless of the gender.

Pretty much this. Artistic and aesthetic based fields have long been considered less important, less meaningful, less wise to pursue and less encouraged for either gender to take seriously. While more physical, intelligence and skill-based professions have long been considered more valuable, stable and practical, and therefore considered more "wise" for someone to take them seriously.

Sort of a "real world" vs "idealism" biased mindset that underestimates the importance of entertainment, aesthetics, the arts and emotions as being "impractical" and foolish to be anything other than a time wasting hobby. I don't agree with that mindset, and I know well that all of the above takes skill and holds value to humanity. But it is an observable pattern in western society for hundreds of years towards both genders. Even in time periods where there's been a limited encouragement for these skills, it's been treated as a means to an end (appear cultured or educated for improved social standing and better marriage prospects, but not because the skill itself holds any intrinsic value) and it was still frowned on to take it "too far" or too seriously. Practicality vs art are often seen as if they are polar opposites and treated as if they can't both be met at the same time.

Darkcelona said:

Ozelot said:

What are you talking about? I thought this thread was about Art not cheerleading.

Wait... "Socially okay" to see only women into arts?, what kind of brainless Caveman thinks that?, I always thought that the problem with arts is the fact that in the average society mostly of people doesn't consider being artist as a real profession, regardless of the gender.

Well then all that means is that there is less pressure on women to be "successful" and more on men. Go to any art venue or take an art course and I almost guarantee you the female participants will outnumber males about 5 to 1.

The whole thing has only gotten exasperated by the intense drop-out of male enrollment. I've seen plenty of classes with only one male present.

furrypickle said:
Pretty much this. Artistic and aesthetic based fields have long been considered less important, less meaningful, less wise to pursue and less encouraged for either gender to take seriously. While more physical, intelligence and skill-based professions have long been considered more valuable, stable and practical, and therefore considered more "wise" for someone to take them seriously.

Sort of a "real world" vs "idealism" biased mindset that underestimates the importance of entertainment, aesthetics, the arts and emotions as being "impractical" and foolish to be anything other than a time wasting hobby. I don't agree with that mindset, and I know well that all of the above takes skill and holds value to humanity. But it is an observable pattern in western society for hundreds of years towards both genders. Even in time periods where there's been a limited encouragement for these skills, it's been treated as a means to an end (appear cultured or educated for improved social standing and better marriage prospects, but not because the skill itself holds any intrinsic value) and it was still frowned on to take it "too far" or too seriously. Practicality vs art are often seen as if they are polar opposites and treated as if they can't both be met at the same time.

I wish we were all robots. Then this wouldn't be an issue.

Ozelot said:
Well then all that means is that there is less pressure on women to be "successful" and more on men. Go to any art venue or take an art course and I almost guarantee you the female participants will outnumber males about 5 to 1.

My area might be different, but I've been to several mass studio art galleries and the only gender consistent trend I've seen is women dominating jewelry-making and males dominate metalworking (as in non-precious metals). Other than that it's always been a fairly even split.

Ozelot said:
Well then all that means is that there is less pressure on women to be "successful" and more on men. Go to any art venue or take an art course and I almost guarantee you the female participants will outnumber males about 5 to 1.

The whole thing has only gotten exasperated by the intense drop-out of male enrollment. I've seen plenty of classes with only one male present.

I have been in art galleries and venues, and I haven't seen Anything like that, and usually the opposite happens.

And Overall its all about the kind of art that we are talking about, because I seriously doubt that sculpting, film-Making, writing, Song-writing, CGI, Architecture, Graffiti, "Junk-art", Photography, animation or any type of art, except fashion designing are something that can be called "Faggy and effeminate" unless the artist itself wants his/her work to look like that, but that's about criteria..

Darkcelona said:
I have been in art galleries and venues, I haven't seen Anything like that, and usually the opposite happens.

Same here

>.> I went to a school for computer art, I was the only girl in a class of 15. That ratio held true for just about the whole school. So yeah.

Maybe Ocelot took his statistics from an all female college?

Or some other place that has an unnatural ratio for some other strange reason.

http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/C37BDC94/Analyzing-College-Gender-Ratios/

Note that the top male universities are almost all military academies and some manufacturing schools.

The top female attended campuses are your standard liberal-artsy unis.

I'm sure there are thousands of anecdotes that don't reflect this trend. But the plural of anecdote is not "data."

Ozelot said:
http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/C37BDC94/Analyzing-College-Gender-Ratios/

Note that the top male universities are almost all military academies and some manufacturing schools.

The top female attended campuses are your standard liberal-artsy unis.

I'm sure there are thousands of anecdotes that don't reflect this trend. But the plural of anecdote is not "data."

The plural of anecdote is "talk show".

furrypickle said:
Pretty much this. Artistic and aesthetic based fields have long been considered less important, less meaningful, less wise to pursue and less encouraged for either gender to take seriously. While more physical, intelligence and skill-based professions have long been considered more valuable, stable and practical, and therefore considered more "wise" for someone to take them seriously.

I presume you're portraying the hypothetical stereotype people actually have rather than the actual contrast?

Cause IME if you're really trying to be a professional artist, you have to:

• Spend time understanding how EVERYTHING works. Not everything gets equal time (eg biology vs geology), but if you have crappy understanding your art will show it. Virtually all artists worth note show understanding of a wide range of things.
• Practice a lot of different skills. Emphasise a particular few, but get to a level of solid competency in many skills.

Yeah, it has that quality shared with social work and etc that each individual person has their own unique characteristics that they bring to it; characteristics that, unlike say, tradesmanship, could not be mostly automated if we had robots on the appropriate level of sophistication. So it's not purely skill based. But skills that -can- more or less be automated are still the basis of the whole process. You just need a human process with intent to assemble those skills into a result.

The above is actually a point that I believe in less than the following: Everybody I've met that takes art seriously[1] is notably intelligent. Not necessarily smart or wise, but definitely intelligent.

[1] my benchmark for this is creating something, preferably multiple somethings, every single day, barring serious emergencies that demand your attention.

Though, I guess I can understand people willfully not understanding that art takes intelligence, in the same way that they often seem to willfully not understand that the reason they are not good at art is that they haven't put in the hours; It would make them feel uncomfortable.

Ozelot said:
http://www.campusexplorer.com/college-advice-tips/C37BDC94/Analyzing-College-Gender-Ratios/

Note that the top male universities are almost all military academies and some manufacturing schools.

The top female attended campuses are your standard liberal-artsy unis.

I'm sure there are thousands of anecdotes that don't reflect this trend. But the plural of anecdote is not "data."

Still not saying too much, for that statistic to have any meaning we need to know the entire pool of possible students and their make-up (meaning, how many males and females would be able to got college in the first place), as well as the age groups and birthrates.

57% female is still very much balanced everything considered, and this only covers some colleges, out of a couple hundred.

Also, your link takes literally 10 colleges in either category to drop down to 57% on each side, this means out of all colleges less than 10 are statistical outliers.

NotMeNotYou said:
Still not saying too much, for that statistic to have any meaning we need to know the entire pool of possible students and their make-up (meaning, how many males and females would be able to got college in the first place), as well as the age groups and birthrates.

57% female is still very much balanced everything considered, and this only covers some colleges, out of a couple hundred.

Also, your link takes literally 10 colleges in either category to drop down to 57% on each side, this means out of all colleges less than 10 are statistical outliers.

You're free to interpret the statistics however you want.

Ozelot said:
You're free to interpret the statistics however you want.

I'm sorry for using your own link to point out that there are only 9 colleges in the US with a female to male ratio greater than 57%, and also that the statistic requires more outside information to be useful.

I will try to be more considerate.

Am I the only one trying to understand how this question came from a video of somebody drawing Sally Acorn? The video had nothing to do with porn.

Rayzr said:
Am I the only one trying to understand how this question came from a video of somebody drawing Sally Acorn? The video had nothing to do with porn.

"Sally Acorn"

"Nothing to do with porn"

pick one

Durandal said:
"Sally Acorn"

"Nothing to do with porn"

pick one

I honestly kind of figured somebody would bring that up.

Logically, Sally Acorn as a character has nothing to do with porn. She's a character in a show, therefore linking a video of somebody drawing just her face makes no sense.

Durandal said:
"Sally Acorn"

"Nothing to do with porn"

pick one

Sally Aporn

Xch3l said:
Sally Aporn

>_<

...I love puns.

Rayzr said:
I honestly kind of figured somebody would bring that up.

Logically, Sally Acorn as a character has nothing to do with porn. She's a character in a show, therefore linking a video of somebody drawing just her face makes no sense.

Emmm... Becuase Sally Acorn is one of most overused characters in furry porn?.

wow, it's like girls are people too or something

Knotty_Curls said:
wow, it's like girls are people too or something

Yep.

Knotty_Curls said:
wow, it's like girls are people too or something

That's what we get for giving them voting rights.

Rayzr said:
That's what we get for giving them voting rights.

Also, gay marriage.
It's unlikely that it would be legal/becoming legal (depending on how prejudiced your state government is) if women still couldn't vote.

Rayzr said:
That's what we get for giving them voting rights.

Next thing they're gonna want to drive cars

Tokaido said:
>.> I went to a school for computer art, I was the only girl in a class of 15. That ratio held true for just about the whole school. So yeah.

I went to college to study Veterinary Technology. Out of a class of about thirty, only I and a few other students were the only males.

GameManiac said:
I went to college to study Veterinary Technology. Out of a class of about thirty, only I and a few other students were the only males.

Different courses and classes having wildly differing male/female ratios is nothing new, but the talk was about entire colleges and the entire studying population as a whole, which simply isn't like that.

NotMeNotYou said:
Different courses and classes having wildly differing male/female ratios is nothing new, but the talk was about entire colleges and the entire studying population as a whole, which simply isn't like that.

If it works for something, I'm on Engineering in Communications and Electronics (first semester) where 6 out of like 25 students are female...

In my experience most of the more talented furry artists are female.

ippiki_ookami said:
In my experience most of the more talented furry artists are female.

Zaush, Fisk, Wolfy-Nail.

inb4unsubstantiatedrumors

*poof*