Personally I think they're amazing! But I was just curious what other boys and girls thought :3

On this site: Great setup for really fun scenarios! Some awesome overlooked tags are strapon_over_chastity, mutual_chastity, dom_in_chastity, and magical_chastity. Cucks in chastity is always hot as long as they aren't crying or something.

In real life (not sure if this is allowed here, but I'll take the bait and see what happens): I have some experience with self-imposed chastity, but I'm not at all consistent with it. I tend to get "into" it for two weeks, then stop for three months, then get back into it for two weeks... In my opinion, they're great! It gives your penis a nice snug hug throughout the day~ Jockstraps are great for that too, but chastity cages have the added benefit of preventing most ways to orgasm, making you hornier as time goes on, making them even more of a tease, and so on. That's the appeal to me, rather than a relationship dynamic. I don't really plan on getting into a romantic relationship.

Not into them, which makes following artists that draw crossdressing on sites without a blacklist function a minefield. Usually winds up attached as well to sissification and a host of other kinks that I don't find appealing. One of those "tertiary" fetishes that seemingly comes attached to another for some reason.

Don't like them. Not the most egregious fetish for me, but I still avoid it if possible.

votp said:
Usually winds up attached as well to sissification and a host of other kinks that I don't find appealing. One of those "tertiary" fetishes that seemingly comes attached to another for some reason.

Of course, this doesn't help either.

One of my top favorite kinks, personally.

Unfortunately for me they're often mixed with some other stuff I don't really like (anal, for example). But in general, yeah, I love them.

cute_bunny_boi2845 said:
Personally I think they're amazing! But I was just curious what other boys and girls thought :3

I personally believe that this falls under the category of sexual abuse

votp said:
Not into them, which makes following artists that draw crossdressing on sites without a blacklist function a minefield. Usually winds up attached as well to sissification and a host of other kinks that I don't find appealing. One of those "tertiary" fetishes that seemingly comes attached to another for some reason.

cloudpie said:
One of my top favorite kinks, personally.

Unfortunately for me they're often mixed with some other stuff I don't really like (anal, for example). But in general, yeah, I love them.

Similarly, I occasionally have to deal with excessive fembois in chastity searches, and the related fetish of null is absolutely loaded with hypnosis. These are things I can tolerate, but I'm not really into them.

weibilin said:
I personally believe that this falls under the category of sexual abuse

Uh, no, absolutely not. Keep in mind it's generally the sub that's into chastity, and if their partner is particularly awesome and comfortable with it, they'll find a way to integrate it into the relationship. That being said, safe words exist to make sure things don't get out of hand. It's only abuse if minors are involved, or if it's not consensual, or if someones is using threats to force their uninterested partner to wear it.

crocogator said:
Similarly, I occasionally have to deal with excessive fembois in chastity searches, and the related fetish of null is absolutely loaded with hypnosis. These are things I can tolerate, but I'm not really into them.

are null and chastity related fetishes? unless you're counting characters with a lock_bulge, it doesn't seem like there's that much overlap. artists that tend to draw null characters don't also seem to draw chastity stuff much/at all, at least.

lazyoldmutt said:
I don't really get/understand whats so hot about it, not to mention how they even stay on at all, given that getting a boner does displace even relatively tight underwear and "pitch a tent" and that a scrotum ring thats tight enough not to fall off from ur balls pulling through on their own tends to hurt like hell after a day or two.

I've actually came across a guy on pornhub that claims to have worn one for over a year without taking it off, and i don't see how he has managed that given how much even a relatively loose ring hurts after a day or two, unless his hate for his dick and him wanting a penectomy but beeing unable to afford one and just general willpower to keep it on has overpowered the pain until it subsided, however long that took. And after over a year if i was to guess hes prolly unable to take it off anymore, as it must have gotten partially embedded at this point.

While i have not actually tried chastity cages, i have however tried cock/balls rings and they do actually increase my horny and sensitivity a bit, like i feel alot closer to blowing a handsfree load with one on than without one, the tighter the more so until they start hurting.

Granted I've never worn one either (just due to having different body parts lol) but from what I've heard, it's all about finding the proper size/shape and material. I've heard from friends that when they find the right cage for them, it's perfectly comfortable. They still have to slowly work up to full-time wear though (if they're even into that - many people are happy wearing them only for short periods of time).

lazyoldmutt said:
I don't really get/understand whats so hot about it

I'm sure others may be into it for a variety of reasons but for me and a lot of people, it's hot because we have a denial fetish. It's a step above orgasm denial because the caged person isn't even able to touch themself properly.

lazyoldmutt said:
I don't really get/understand whats so hot about it

There are many different reasons for different people, but broadly speaking, I think there are two main camps that often overlap:

• The orgasm denial aspect. Orgasm denial = horny = fun. Also, for those who experience any "post-nut clarity", they don't have to deal with it and can stay in a kinky/sexual state.
• The submissive aspect. Some people like being sexually controlled and like being able to focus solely on their partner's sexual pleasure rather than their own.

Those aren't the only possible reasons though.

lazyoldmutt said:
not to mention how they even stay on at all

In addition to what Cloudpie said, the secret reality that porn doesn't want you to know is that the cage tends to slide down the penis somewhat, for some people more than others. A good workaround for this is to make an improvised belt/harness by tying a shoelace around your waist and finding a way to keep the cage attached to it. If someone finds chastity painful, they need to stop and get a better cage.

sipothac said:
are null and chastity related fetishes? unless you're counting characters with a lock_bulge, it doesn't seem like there's that much overlap. artists that tend to draw null characters don't also seem to draw chastity stuff much/at all, at least.

Yeah, I probably should've said null_bulge/lock_bulge, not null. My bad. Though, there certainly are some non-bulge null art with explicit orgasm denial themes like post #3750987 and post #2804686.

I also like the null stuff without any explicit orgasm denial themes, so the mysterious reason I like the stuff is probably a bit more complicated than just orgasm denial.

votp said:
Not into them, which makes following artists that draw crossdressing on sites without a blacklist function a minefield. Usually winds up attached as well to sissification and a host of other kinks that I don't find appealing. One of those "tertiary" fetishes that seemingly comes attached to another for some reason.

I also don't like chastity when it's being used to assign feminine gender to a character, but then I don't like gender anyway. Similarly when it's being used for humiliation purposes or when the control aspect is overly malicious in intent.

crocogator said:
Though, there certainly are some non-bulge null art with explicit orgasm denial themes like post #3750987 and post #2804686.

Someone I'm friends with who's into null has complained to me about null characters whose pubic region is still sexually stimulable as if it were itself genital. I do think there's a divide between people who pursue null from an everything is absent angle versus a the external genitalia is merely inaccessible/null = chastity angle.

The ones with flat heads freak me out. I have an irrational fear that if a penis gets pushed all the way inside the body, it could get caught on the lip of it's "hole" and get stuck. I know that's not how it works, but that's what those cages make me think of.

I also don't like the ones that are drawn around an erect penis just cause... I don't think that's possible? How are they supposed to stay erect in a device that's supposed to deny stimulation? What happens when they go limp in it? Also these kinds of cages look really pinchy and are usually put on tapering penises which sounds like a special layer of hell.

Besides that, I'm pretty indifferent to them most of the time. They're best in scenarios where the wearer's lack of pleasure is contrasted with the pleasure of their partner or just everyone else in the room. I wish there was more chastity cage content exploring the ideas of "alternative" stimulation and limp ejaculations though.

Love them. Especially on submissive boys who love anal.

magnuseffect said:
Someone I'm friends with who's into null has complained to me about null characters whose pubic region is still sexually stimulable as if it were itself genital.

we definitely ought to have a tag for this. I have wanted to tag posts that contain this situation, but I've also been having difficulties actually coming up with a good name for it, I considered using the existing but not very prevalent perineum_massage, but perineum dosn't really fit the situation that bulgier nulls have going on, and only vaguely analogous to the uhh... null zone of fully featureless characters.

Not a fan. Breaking one with a powerful erection could be interesting, though.

sipothac said:
we definitely ought to have a tag for this. I have wanted to tag posts that contain this situation, but I've also been having difficulties actually coming up with a good name for it, I considered using the existing but not very prevalent perineum_massage, but perineum dosn't really fit the situation that bulgier nulls have going on, and only vaguely analogous to the uhh... null zone of fully featureless characters.

Could call it... null_stimulation maybe?

vulpes_artifex said:
Not a fan. Breaking one with a powerful erection could be interesting, though.

Noting this down! Seems like a cool thing to draw.

cloudpie said:
Could call it... null_stimulation maybe?

alright then, null_stimulation and, for good measure, null_masturbation. I could see this tag being split in half to account for bulged and bulgeless nulls separately, but for now I think these definitions are alright.

sipothac said:
alright then, null_stimulation and, for good measure, null_masturbation. I could see this tag being split in half to account for bulged and bulgeless nulls separately, but for now I think these definitions are alright.

Awesome! STRONGLY approve of these tags! Wikis look good. I can start tagging them.

ruffwuff said:
its cool in rp, but ive seen some crazy real life chastigy cages that basically shrink peoples dicks into the size of a raisin.. NO THANKS!

That's not really permanent shrinkage, and also only really happens after months and months of regular wear.

The bulk update request #5585 is pending approval.

create implication null_stimulation (159) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> masturbation (161148)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null_stimulation (159)

Reason: Self-explanatory

dimoretpinel said:
The bulk update request #5585 is pending approval.

create implication null_stimulation (159) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> masturbation (161148)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null_stimulation (159)

Reason: Self-explanatory

I'm gonna stand against it largely for the reason that people are gonna keep tagging lock_bulge/null_bulge as null, and null-related tags for lock bulges regardless of whether it's truly null or just encasement/chastity_bulge instead.

magnuseffect said:
I'm gonna stand against it largely for the reason that people are gonna keep tagging lock_bulge as null, and null-related tags for lock bulges (when that's typically encasement/chastity_bulge and not null)

I'm not sure how not having these tags implied would have any positive effect on lock_bulge posts being mistagged with null.

magnuseffect said:
I'm gonna stand against it largely for the reason that people are gonna keep tagging lock_bulge/null_bulge as null, and null-related tags for lock bulges regardless of whether it's truly null or just encasement/chastity_bulge instead.

Wait, aren’t lock_bulges a form of null_bulge? And null_bulges null too? I don’t see the problem, because I don’t see the mistagging. I think null_stimulation -lock_bulge would be enough to weed it out..

dimoretpinel said:
Wait, aren’t lock_bulges a form of null_bulge? And null_bulges null too?

If they've got genitals it ain't null. and most instances of a null_bulge are just a covering over the genitals.

sipothac said:
I'm not sure how not having these tags implied would have any positive effect on lock_bulge posts being mistagged with null.

It won't have a positive effect on that, but it will prevent the increase on the number of tags which are incorrect on a given post.

I still don't like "null" as a tag, as it's indistinguishable from featureless_crotch. null_stimulation and null_masturbation also seem to run contrary to what null is supposed to be, specifically the lack of sex organs. It's like tagging belly_masturbation for "masturbation" of the belly or knee_stimulation for sexually stimulating someone's knee.

knee stimulation sounds like one interesting tag

dimoretpinel said:
The bulk update request #5585 is pending approval.

create implication null_stimulation (159) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null (1983)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> masturbation (161148)
create implication null_masturbation (52) -> null_stimulation (159)

Reason: Self-explanatory

In theory, yes, maybe? What counts as the null patch/bulge being "stimulated" vs. merely "touched" can be a bit up to interpretation, making things a bit messy. Honestly, the tagging I've done so far just got me really confused on what these tags even mean, and I may need to clean it up later.

There are posts with obvious stimulation:
post #3095854 post #4137204 post #3126095

But crotch grabs or pressing can potentially be more ambiguous if "stimulation" is the intent or present:
post #3144181 post #4085455 post #3462719 post #3821573

The definition of null itself has also always been hazy, and honestly, I'm not fully sure what among the world of featureless_crotches/null_bulges/lock_bulges/chastity_bulges/living_inflatables/living_plushies counts. There are several threads in the past discussing how to define null...

By the way, by Wiki definitions, null_masturbation should imply null_stimulation, if we're going through with a BUR.

dimoretpinel said:
Wait, aren’t lock_bulges a form of null_bulge? And null_bulges null too? I don’t see the problem, because I don’t see the mistagging. I think null_stimulation -lock_bulge would be enough to weed it out..

null is for characters who lack genitals "canonically", there has been "some discussion on moving it over to a lore tag":38913 but we never actually made a BUR.
as lock_bulge when a character has their genitals (usually penis) encased in a sort of two-state chastity goo that becomes solid when "locked", it's essentially just a magic/high-tec chastity cage.

watsit said:
null_stimulation and null_masturbation also seem to run contrary to what null is supposed to be, specifically the lack of sex organs. It's like tagging belly_masturbation for "masturbation" of the belly or knee_stimulation for sexually stimulating someone's knee.

I feel like this is common enough of an occurrence that it deserves a tag, and, as described above, there are people who would like to avoid it as well, and there's just not really any other way to describe what's going on.

EDIT: also, this should have been in it's own thread, we really shouldn't have BURs in the middle of a discussion thread in the Off Topic section.

crocogator said:
In theory, yes, maybe? What counts as the null patch/bulge being "stimulated" vs. merely "touched" can be a bit up to interpretation, making things a bit messy. Honestly, the tagging I've done so far just got me really confused on what these tags even mean, and I may need to clean it up later.

Maybe there can be a "null crotch touched" or "nulge touched" tag, but I’m unsure if it’s too specific

By the way, by Wiki definitions, null_masturbation should imply null_stimulation, if we're going through with a BUR.

Will add this to the BUR

Not a fan of them, even though I do like cross dressing, and seeing the odd femboy being feminized/ruined :p

my fav tag :>

Lame. Why cover up the best part of the body? :(

speaking from personal experience, they're not comfortable....I know right, not being comfortable is kinda its whole thing. But is is supposed to literally blue-ball you and Hurt?!
I think not, it should be a good balance between cum denial, uncomfort, and comfort. But all I get is denial and uncomfort...maybe I'm bying the wrong size for the nuts part. maybe bigger?
But like any bigger and it'd just slip right off! Honestly I need an expert myself. Otherwise

fukin cages are overated. Not touching yourself is already a good form of denial anyways...damn cages.

lopsire said:
speaking from personal experience, they're not comfortable....I know right, not being comfortable is kinda its whole thing. But is is supposed to literally blue-ball you and Hurt?!
I think not, it should be a good balance between cum denial, uncomfort, and comfort. But all I get is denial and uncomfort...maybe I'm bying the wrong size for the nuts part. maybe bigger?
But like any bigger and it'd just slip right off! Honestly I need an expert myself. Otherwise

fukin cages are overated. Not touching yourself is already a good form of denial anyways...damn cages.

I know a discord server that might be able to help you with sizing issues, want me to dm it to you?

cloudpie said:
I know a discord server that might be able to help you with sizing issues, want me to dm it to you?

yes plz, I'm in my femboy arc as a enbi

Not a fan tbh. A free dick is a happy dick

thehuskyk9 said:
Not a fan tbh. A free dick is a happy dick

but can true freedom really be experienced without first knowing constraint? can true happiness be known without struggle?

I see no reson to put one on or to put it on someone else, not into restricting myself or anyone else.

sipothac said:
but can true freedom really be experienced without first knowing constraint? can true happiness be known without struggle?

Well constraint could also be merely wearing underwear/pants, and thus freedom could be when you get home from work or whatever and strip everything off for the day.

i think theyre really hot.. and that i need one