As the title says, my friend not only hates homosexuality, but also particularly hates muscular and obese male characters, including anthro. Every time he sees gay art, especially obese and muscular art, he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

weibilin said:
Is this normal?

for so many reasons, no

weibilin said:
he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

Offensive how? and post it on... e6?

damn, that's wack. it's probably more common depending on where your friend hails from.

if it's making you uncomfortable, which it seems like it is, you could confront them if you feel confident in doing that. if they refuse, or if you just can't bring yourself to say anything, maybe look into investing in better friends, because those are probably not the types you want to hang around with.

weibilin said:
Is this normal?

That depends on where your friend lurks but for the vast majority of places this isn't normal behaviour. Even if i were to ignore the whole homophobia aspect of this (which i'm not) it would still be pretty rude and childish for your friend to post offensive content under someones art/ in a group chat simply because he didn't like the picture. I'm sorry that your friend is like that and i hope he improves himself.

I mean ... no? But maybe yes depending on your definition of 'hate'?

If he actually outright hates it, then no - not normal and not healthy.

If he simply doesn't like it? Not everyone is into everything. You can be furry without being gay or bi, or gay without liking obesity, or simply appreciative of some aspects of male physique without being into the bodybuilder steroidal stereotype.

But actual hate? Not good.

weibilin said:
As the title says, my friend not only hates homosexuality, but also particularly hates muscular and obese male characters, including anthro. Every time he sees gay art, especially obese and muscular art, he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

Probably for him, depending on the culture, religion, or just the people he's surrounded with. Some learn to hate on LGBT because it is common, accepted, or even encouraged in their culture.

sipothac said:
damn, that's wack. it's probably more common depending on where your friend hails from.

if it's making you uncomfortable, which it seems like it is, you could confront them if you feel confident in doing that. if they refuse, or if you just can't bring yourself to say anything, maybe look into investing in better friends, because those are probably not the types you want to hang around with.

I am neutral towards LGTB and do not want to interfere. This incident is not enough to divide my friendship with him

benjiboyo said:
Offensive how? and post it on... e6?

Is to directly scold in the comment area of that art

calydor said:
I mean ... no? But maybe yes depending on your definition of 'hate'?

If he actually outright hates it, then no - not normal and not healthy.

If he simply doesn't like it? Not everyone is into everything. You can be furry without being gay or bi, or gay without liking obesity, or simply appreciative of some aspects of male physique without being into the bodybuilder steroidal stereotype.

But actual hate? Not good.

The basic reason he hates it is that he is a heterosexual male.

This is such a bizarre thread.

weibilin said:
Is this normal?

Normal in relation to what?
In my country most people are overwhelmingly homophobic, so I guess it's "normal" for the culture I inhabit. This might apply to your local culture too.
It's certainly not normal in overall furry community, which is (I think) self-evident, but there's some research to prove that.

What's the underlying cause for this question if not to be inflammatory?

weibilin said:
As the title says, my friend not only hates homosexuality, but also particularly hates muscular and obese male characters, including anthro. Every time he sees gay art, especially obese and muscular art, he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

What's normal? Especially in this fandom?

As for whether this is okay, yes and no, depending on what we look at. It's okay to not like homosexuality or muscular and obese males. Everyone has their preferences with sexual orientation and also fetishes. Full-out hatred isn't healthy, but it's his problem as long as he's able to keep it to himself.

However, when he starts making it other people's problem, in this case by deliberately posting offensive content in retaliation for simply existing, that's definitely not okay. He should do his best to avoid going where he can see content he can't stand (we have a robust blacklisting system for a reason) or if he can't, learn better to resist his impulses to attack those he can't stand. If he can't or won't bother doing either, he's not going to be welcome in a lot of places, including here.

weibilin said:
The basic reason he hates it is that he is a heterosexual male.

Honestly, it's more than just that. I'm a heterosexual male, and I don't have a problem with other orientations. If they want to go chasing muscleguts instead of skirts, that's fine with me.

There's another, stronger underlying cause, and like others have said above, it's likely the culture he was raised in, be that family, religion, or community. He was taught to be afraid of homosexuals and that manifests as hatred.

clawstripe said:
What's normal? Especially in this fandom?

As for whether this is okay, yes and no, depending on what we look at. It's okay to not like homosexuality or muscular and obese males. Everyone has their preferences with sexual orientation and also fetishes. Full-out hatred isn't healthy, but it's his problem as long as he's able to keep it to himself.

However, when he starts making it other people's problem, in this case by deliberately posting offensive content in retaliation for simply existing, that's definitely not okay. He should do his best to avoid going where he can see content he can't stand (we have a robust blacklisting system for a reason) or if he can't, learn better to resist his impulses to attack those he can't stand. If he can't or won't bother doing either, he's not going to be welcome in a lot of places, including here.

Honestly, it's more than just that. I'm a heterosexual male, and I don't have a problem with other orientations. If they want to go chasing muscleguts instead of skirts, that's fine with me.

There's another, stronger underlying cause, and like others have said above, it's likely the culture he was raised in, be that family, religion, or community. He was taught to be afraid of homosexuals and that manifests as hatred.

I want to ask, is it normal to attack men's muscles and fat art?

weibilin said:
I am neutral towards LGTB and do not want to interfere. This incident is not enough to divide my friendship with him

It doesn't affect you but that type of behavior can happen with other things so beware lol...

weibilin said:
I want to ask, is it normal to attack men's muscles and fat art?

What do you mean by "normal"? Do you mean that it's something that's okay for him to do? (It's not.) Do you mean that it's something that happens a lot? (More than it should, to be honest.) Do you mean is it healthy for him or others? (No and no.)

To whom is "normal" in relation to? People in general regardless of location, creed, or sexual orientation? His church, community, or family? His culture? Just him? The furry fandom? What is "normal" to one person or group of people can be the height of abnormality to another. Normality requires sufficient context or otherwise it's meaningless as a concept.

To me, what you actually seem to be asking is if his behavior is appropriate or acceptable. No, it is not. It isn't good. Should he try that behavior here on e621, he would be removed for the good of the site and everyone on it. In that context, his attacking others would not be considered normal.

weibilin said:
Is to directly scold in the comment area of that art

in the context of e6, that would definitely give him a record for improperly blacklisting. so, no it isn't normal, at least this specific action he does.

weibilin said:
As the title says, my friend not only hates homosexuality, but also particularly hates muscular and obese male characters, including anthro. Every time he sees gay art, especially obese and muscular art, he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

No. It's never ok to post offensive content in response to something you don't like. Tell him to use blacklist instead. Posting offensive comments will eventually be noticed by the moderators, and they won't like it.

weibilin, i want you to clarify something for us:

when you say that your friend "hates homosexuality". does that mean that he simply is repulsed by male-on-male pornography, or that he hates the fact that there are people out there who like male-on-male sex?

although regardless of the intent; it is not alright for him to go and make his apparent disgust known by attacking art he doesn't like, no matter how "normal" that behavior might be; it's rude and not good

It's worth remembering OP is chinese, things are a bit rough, there.

weibilin said:
Is to directly scold in the comment area of that art

If he is doing it on e621, then it would be breaking the rules and should be reported.
If he is doing it on another website, then it is probably also breaking the rules (depending on that site's Terms of Use).

weibilin said:
I want to ask, is it normal to attack men's muscles and fat art?

No, that will be hate. It is like going in public and spitting on random people because you dislike them.
Culturally, it may be "normal" for him but generally this can be considered bigotry and is unacceptable behaviour online.

Your friend sounds like they have some personal issues that go above and beyond the typical levels of indoctrinated bigotry. Maybe suggest that they look into getting therapy.

Normal doesn’t exist, everyone is different with different tastes, no one has the right to force and/or threaten someone to like something they don’t want to. Everyone has the right to free will, but if his way of dealing with something is causing physical harm and/or property damage then maybe it’s time to have a talk with him.

I can imagine a number of worldviews that would not make those two things mutually exclusive.

Is it normal? Yes, sorta, in that it is very common actually. It's also morally reprehensive and fucked up, so there's that. I've known many furries, even gay ones, that hate homosexuality. It makes no sense, yet it occurs constantly.

If you don't want to interfere, and you don't care about LGBT rights, why post here asking?

If I find it on the site, I'll ban him into the shadow realm.

weibilin said:
As the title says, my friend not only hates homosexuality, but also particularly hates muscular and obese male characters, including anthro. Every time he sees gay art, especially obese and muscular art, he will directly post offensive content. Is this normal?

how is bro a homophobic furry 😭😭

chryzz said:
how is bro a homophobic furry 😭😭

The furry fandom is a highly diverse thing.

clawstripe said:
The furry fandom is a highly diverse thing.

It's so diverse there are fandons within the fandom