Topic: What is the creator of the concept of aeromorph?

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Suddenly curious about such a thing,The information I received on Google did not show the creator of this concept, Does anyone know who told me the creator of aeromorph's concept and his story,And there's development and so on

Tobyfox

Now seriously, I think you could research here the oldest tagged with year uploads with the aeromorph tag, could at least get near the first artists who did it...if people tagged it correctly at the time.

Maybe researching on Pixiv is a good idea.

Edit: Doing some lazy research here on e621 the oldest tagged with an year is this one, 2001 by Karabiner
https://e621.net/posts/39052

If there is something older than that you gonna need to go dig old furry(?) fanzines that had that concept, pretty hard...but if you want to know the concept not in the fandom context that will be a bit hard because you will need to research the oldest anthro plane cartoon made and...that's drawing me a blank because the only one in mind is too recent that's the "Planes" CG movie from Pixar lol.

Aerospace manufacturers did it to increase airplane sales. It was revealed to me in a dream once.

notknow said:
Edit: Doing some lazy research here on e621 the oldest tagged with an year is this one, 2001 by Karabiner
https://e621.net/posts/39052

The copyright of the artwork cites Aerotoons by Eric W. Schwartz, who is a veteran furry artist famous for his work with Sabrina_Online which debuted in 1996.
As for Aerotoons, his earliest work seems to be The Swiss Army F-16 in Combat which debuted in 1989. You could say he popularised the idea within the furry fandom, but he definitely did not pioneer it.

The earliest result I could find in cartoon animation was The Ocean Hop which was released back in 1927.
It sounds kinda crazy when you consider most of the animators of this short would have been around when the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane in 1903.

There is probably some very obscure artworks of anthropomorphic or talking planes that was made between 1903~1927 and probably even more older pieces with flying objects that talk.

thegreatwolfgang said:
The copyright of the artwork cites Aerotoons by Eric W. Schwartz, who is a veteran furry artist famous for his work with Sabrina_Online which debuted in 1996.
As for Aerotoons, his earliest work seems to be The Swiss Army F-16 in Combat which debuted in 1989. You could say he popularised the idea within the furry fandom, but he definitely did not pioneer it.

The earliest result I could find in cartoon animation was The Ocean Hop which was released back in 1927.
It sounds kinda crazy when you consider most of the animators of this short would have been around when the Wright Brothers flew the first airplane in 1903.

There is probably some very obscure artworks of anthropomorphic or talking planes that was made between 1903~1927 and probably even more older pieces with flying objects that talk.

Just the first person to create the art of a humanoid airplane and this art is enough. If it includes any form of anthropomorphic airplane deification, it will be difficult to find

The oldest thing I could find that maybe could qualify is the bat-plane thing depicted in the top right of "March of Intellect" from 1829. It's a bit of a stretch, but it's clearly an aircraft, as it has a loaded passenger cabin, and it's also clearly living.

Interesting that vacuum tubes were depicted too, those weren't invented until the early 1900s afaik.

https://the-public-domain-review.imgix.net/collections/march-of-the-intellect/march-2.jpg?fit=max&w=1200&h=1200
https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/march-of-the-intellect/

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VotP

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This probably dates as far back, inherently, as the concept of vehicles. Humans like to humanise things, I'd say it probably started with ships, then bled over into aeroplanes when they were invented. I believe I recall an art piece of a half-german half-plane monstrosity that was produced during WW2?

Genjar

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It existed earlier, but Eric W. Schwartz definitely popularized it among furries.
Anyone who watched his furry animations — and most early furries did, since there wasn't much back in the day — likely watched at least some of his other animations too. Most of which were about aeromorphs.

genjar said:
It existed earlier, but Eric W. Schwartz definitely popularized it among furries.
Anyone who watched his furry animations — and most early furries did, since there wasn't much back in the day — likely watched at least some of his other animations too. Most of which were about aeromorphs.

If it's a personalized aircraft, the range is too large and can only be considered as a prototype. It should be enough to find the first humanoid level like anthro

votp said:
This probably dates as far back, inherently, as the concept of vehicles. Humans like to humanise things, I'd say it probably started with ships, then bled over into aeroplanes when they were invented. I believe I recall an art piece of a half-german half-plane monstrosity that was produced during WW2?

Was it 'The combat' by Leslie Illingworth; UK -1940 ?

Genjar

Former Staff

weibilin said:
If it's a personalized aircraft, the range is too large and can only be considered as a prototype. It should be enough to find the first humanoid level like anthro

Ah. Drawing blank on that one.
I'd bet on early Japanese mecha shows for that, but I'm no expert on the genre. Transformers had the aerialbots, but they didn't much look like planes in robot form...

weibilin said:
If it's a personalized aircraft, the range is too large and can only be considered as a prototype. It should be enough to find the first humanoid level like anthro

The most popular I could think of is Transformers' (1984) predecessors, the Diaclone and Micro Change toy lines (early 1980s), which produced airplanes that can transform into humanoid mechs.
It was further popularised by shows like Macross with their VF-1_Valkyrie (1980).

If you are talking about humans with airplane features (something you hate by the way), that would fall into moe anthropomorphism and mecha musume/mecha girl.
The first instances that popularised the idea was probably with Gundum's MS Girl concept, which was first released in 1982.

weibilin said:
Just the first person to create the art of a humanoid airplane and this art is enough. If it includes any form of anthropomorphic airplane deification, it will be difficult to find

pretty sure there is "very first" anthro plane drawing whether it's lost or thankfully isn't but forgotten one, though the oldest-probably-not-first anthro plane drawing that i have seen right now is this from 2006.

snake-girl said:
pretty sure there is "very first" anthro plane drawing whether it's lost or thankfully isn't but forgotten one, though the oldest-probably-not-first anthro plane drawing that i have seen right now is this from 2006.

Thank you, but who coined the term aeromorph?

weibilin said:
Thank you, but who coined the term aeromorph?

i mostly found in furaffinity yet again from march 2007. WhileYouWereOut is probably the co-pioneer of the idea of the aeromorph and its word and popularity - only alive source. there is probably be the older coiners that is lost to the internet (or not), but that's the best available source of initial aeromorph coinage.

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