Topic: Human rule

Posted under General

What criteria is being used to identify and delete posts of humans? I see content *daily* that is being uploaded that violates the section

Pure1 humans are only allowed as long as they are part of an otherwise furry-centric image. If a page, or an image, of an otherwise furry-centric comic contains only humans, then those pages will also be kept to keep the comic complete.

https://e621.net/help/uploading_guidelines

There is no way for users to flag human content. It is very apparent that human uploads are tolerated and selectively enforced by the moderator team. The rules should either be clearer and more appropriately enforced, or the rule should be removed.

The rule allows humanoids as well, where the bear minimum is pointy ears. There's a few things that slip through, sure, but nothing in the first few pages of not-furry status:active is too egregious. The only stuff I see that really is human only is part of comics, an explicit exception that's part of the rule.

As for the images of yours that have been deleted, skin color is not considered a significant enough difference to go from human to humanoid. Arbitrary, but best to have a line somewhere, and that's where it is.

dark_echo said:
There is no way for users to flag human content.

e621:flag_for_deletion:

  • "Does not meet the uploading guidelines"

This post fails to meet the site's standards, be it for artistic worth, image quality, relevancy, or something else.
Keep in mind that your personal preferences have no bearing on this. If you find the content of a post objectionable, simply blacklist it.

If a post contains only humans and is not part of a sequence, it would be flagged for not meeting the uploading guidelines.

dark_echo said:
It is very apparent that human uploads are tolerated

human only uploads are only allowed if they are part of a sequence such as a comic.

dark_echo said:
The rules should either be clearer and more appropriately enforced, or the rule should be removed.

We are a team of over 30 people. We're doing the best we can. Even a single person cannot be totally consistent.

You should read the rest of the Humans and e621 section of the uploading guidelines for more information on what we consider to be a pure human.

Since you've given us nothing to go off of, I'm making the assumption that you're complaining about your deletions despite them having been over a year ago.
post #4110551 - yellow skinned human
post #4110552 - yellow skinned human
post #4110580 - plain humans

As was said by the person above me (and is listed in the uploading guidelines), a different skin color does not make a human non-human.

Pointing out the posts you believe were incorrectly approved/deleted would be infinitely more useful than us making guesses and generalizations.

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donovan_dmc said:
e621:flag_for_deletion:
If a post contains only humans and is not part of a sequence, it would be flagged for not meeting the uploading guidelines.

This cannot be flagged by Members after approval/posted by an unlimited post limit. This might be what they're griping about. If that's the case, they can flag with a random reason or report with a random reason (to avoid stating why they flagged it in the comments)

human only uploads are only allowed if they are part of a sequence such as a comic.

Or if they're grandfathered content or involve tentacles

snpthecat said:
This cannot be flagged by Members after approval/posted by an unlimited post limit. This might be what they're griping about. If that's the case, they can flag with a random reason or report with a random reason (to avoid stating why they flagged it in the comments)
Or if they're grandfathered content or involve tentacles

Yes. Unless I am misunderstanding, If I find a human-only post and try to flag it, there is no non-human selection option. Its not hard to find examples constantly being approved that contain human only posts. Why are members of the approval team approving human only posts as recently as 1 day ago if this policy has been in place for months+?

dark_echo said:
Yes. Unless I am misunderstanding, If I find a human-only post and try to flag it, there is no non-human selection option. Its not hard to find examples constantly being approved that contain human only posts. Why are members of the approval team approving human only posts as recently as 1 day ago if this policy has been in place for months+?

This policy has been in place for years. Could you link some examples of incorrectly handled posts?

So this is the officially supported method for flagging approved human-only posts posted after the grandfather policy?

e621:flag_for_deletion:
"Does not meet the uploading guidelines"
This post fails to meet the site's standards, be it for artistic worth, image quality, relevancy, or something else.
Keep in mind that your personal preferences have no bearing on this. If you find the content of a post objectionable, simply blacklist it.

dark_echo said:
So this is the officially supported method for flagging approved human-only posts posted after the grandfather policy?

No. Report, drop-down reason doesn't particularly matter, put the actual reason in the text field.

That said, most likely, the images you're thinking of are either pending or pass as humanoid rather than human.

Flagging pending posts for not meeting uploading guidelines is not particularly helpful.

scth said:
Flagging pending posts for not meeting uploading guidelines is not particularly helpful.

Flagging pending posts for not meeting the uploading guidelines is perfectly fine? The option wouldn't exist otherwise

So, can you even flag human only content once it's been approved? There's no option for uploading guideline approval in flag/report and "false" reports can affect your account.

e621.net/posts/5127957

edit: I just noticed the skin discoloration. If that excludes it from the rule, I guess that's that.

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jester89 said:
edit: I just noticed the skin discoloration. If that excludes it from the rule, I guess that's that.

Also for story based pictures human only scene on some pages can be also an exception.

Pure humans are only allowed as long as they are part of an otherwise furry-centric image. If a page, or an image, of an otherwise furry-centric comic contains only humans, then those pages will also be kept to keep the comic complete.

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