Well it's sadly finally happening, FA are now going through and wiping a lot of ABDL/Babyfur content as of Update 2.7

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/10983144

Thankfully there is a 6 Month Grace Period but yet another example of stripping away the internet from taboo subjects, again you may not like the subject which is fine, but it's the slippery slope to ban more, we've seen the pattern again and again

If you are into ABDL or Babyfur content I highly recommend you to backup and Archive everything you can now before it's gone

[From the linked page]

UP 2.7 is being changed now to no longer allow any characters depicted as minors in Mature or Adult-rated submissions per community feedback.

What exactly is not allowed now that was allowed before? I thought underage characters were already not allowed.

im also confused, techincal jargon isn't my strong suit but it feels like this is just tackling that shitting in a diaper is in fact a fetish and that minors shouldn't be involved?

it says that only abdl stuff that has minors in it will be removed i thought?

the age regression thing is a little iffy though I admit, since age regression can be "safe" as a means to work through trauma

crocogator said:
[From the linked page]
What exactly is not allowed now that was allowed before? I thought underage characters were already not allowed.

It was never explicitly specified whether young characters could be depicted in artwork involving non-sexualized blood, gore, and/or violence. This change now makes it clear that they're not, along with not being allowed in pictures involving visible urine and/or feces, including those seen through diapers, and in pictures involving visible genital bulges.

kyureki said:
It was never explicitly specified whether young characters could be depicted in artwork involving non-sexualized blood, gore, and/or violence. This change now makes it clear that they're not, along with not being allowed in pictures involving visible urine and/or feces, including those seen through diapers, and in pictures involving visible genital bulges.

Alright, thanks!

hmmm... take this as you will but going down this rabbit hole is very much not a good idea. I sure as hell hope e621 doesn't start doing this conservative evangelical BS.

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1848853513801232829

https://bsky.app/profile/pathia.mom/post/3l74xfjfpf42v

Amazing

ryu_deacon said:
hmmm... take this as you will but going down this rabbit hole is very much not a good idea. I sure as hell hope e621 doesn't start doing this conservative evangelical BS.

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1848853513801232829

that statement would seem to mean that any post depicting impregnation via the zoomed-in egg and sperm would be cub, which would be absolutely absurd.

ryu_deacon said:
hmmm... take this as you will but going down this rabbit hole is very much not a good idea. I sure as hell hope e621 doesn't start doing this conservative evangelical BS.

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1848853513801232829

The whole egg thing is so weird to me. Not as a kink but the mods sudden weird stance on them on FA. In all my years it's never crossed my mind until I saw that comment.

ryu_deacon said:
hmmm... take this as you will but going down this rabbit hole is very much not a good idea. I sure as hell hope e621 doesn't start doing this conservative evangelical BS.

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1848853513801232829

Are they gonna ban pregnant sex as well bc there's an implied fetus present? lmao

no-one-you-know said:
https://bsky.app/profile/pathia.mom/post/3l74xfjfpf42v

Amazing

So they made a new reply saying the moderator misunderstood the question

Which still doesn't really answer any questions I have about the what's going on, it really sounds like some of the mods have fallen for some weird puritan right wing stuff or something

pleaseletmein said:
Are they gonna ban pregnant sex as well bc there's an implied fetus present? lmao

Don't tempt them, at least one artist got dinged for mpreg because the adult character was enjoying being pregnant too much and they unironically said belly kicks imply a minor and thus the guy was getting off to minors.

no-one-you-know said:
So they made a new reply saying the moderator misunderstood the question

Which still doesn't really answer any questions I have about the what's going on, it really sounds like some of the mods have fallen for some weird puritan right wing stuff or something

It's Luffy, the admin infamous for the "Mew is an embryo" take from the "small-bodied pokemon = cub" debacle, they did not misunderstand the question the mods are trying to backpedal because they just realized they have fucked up.

potentialgoat said:
It's Luffy, the admin infamous for the "Mew is an embryo" take

Ok I need to know more about this because

What

also, I'm still of the opinion that FA just shouldn't allow minors period. and a opt-in feature that allows users to auto-block minors from having access to their account is a total non-solution that seems like its aim is to protect adults from having children view their content rather than doing anything to protect the children.

FurAffinity is not a general audience website, and it really never has been. the content of the site is made primarily by adults for other adults; and that's true whether a piece is SFW or not.

no-one-you-know said:
Ok I need to know more about this because

What

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1659771622839189504/photo/3
Luffy said the exact words "Mew is an embryo" during the previous AUP 2.7 update shenanigans back in May
quick edit: see topic #38553 for previous discussion

dba_afish said:
also, I'm still of the opinion that FA just shouldn't allow minors period. and a opt-in feature that allows users to auto-block minors from having access to their account is a total non-solution that seems like its aim is to protect adults from having children view their content rather than doing anything to protect the children.

FurAffinity is not a general audience website, and it really never has been. the content of the site is made primarily by adults for other adults; and that's true whether a piece is SFW or not.

100 100 100

reading that leaked admin chat the comment by skunky andy that "it's meant to be a website people can trust their kids on" is ridiculous, like bitch I don't trust myself on that site when browsing the recent artworks section. it's ironically enough the reason why i prefer to browse and discover art on e6 rather than FA, and NEITHER site I would want to let a kid loose on

ryu_deacon said:
hmmm... take this as you will but going down this rabbit hole is very much not a good idea. I sure as hell hope e621 doesn't start doing this conservative evangelical BS.

https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1848853513801232829

potentialgoat said:
Don't tempt them, at least one artist got dinged for mpreg because the adult character was enjoying being pregnant too much and they unironically said belly kicks imply a minor and thus the guy was getting off to minors.

potentialgoat said:
https://x.com/echoenbatbat/status/1659771622839189504/photo/3
Luffy said the exact words "Mew is an embryo" during the previous AUP 2.7 update shenanigans back in May
quick edit: see topic #38553 for previous discussion

Geez, this is all getting silly (and frustrating)... What's next? "Ban feral art for species that don't live to be 18 IRL"?

dripen_arn said:
100 100 100

reading that leaked admin chat the comment by skunky andy that "it's meant to be a website people can trust their kids on" is ridiculous, like bitch I don't trust myself on that site when browsing the recent artworks section. it's ironically enough the reason why i prefer to browse and discover art on e6 rather than FA, and NEITHER site I would want to let a kid loose on

For a website that STILL doesn't have a functioning black list on it, calling it a website people can trust their kids on is mind-boggling.

Can we just stop with the idea that one, every single place on the internet needs to be child safe because, "Oh, what if kids get on it." Stop punishing adults for the misgivings of terrible parents who cant keep their kids from going to places they shouldnt. There isnt a single damn reason one that a porn site should have limitations on uploads because, "It might be seen by kids." And if the content CAN be seen by kids, thats an even bigger issue than the content itself. Two, its fucking not real, its just not real, none of it is fucking real. Its all fantasy art that isnt bound by any laws of physical morality because again, it isnt real. You're fine to be offended by it, dont look at it. Block it, avoid it, dont go seeking it out, and heavens above dont go hunting it down just to lambast people in the comments about how disgusting it is. Further, don't go and collect a giant pile of it and start spreading it around, especially if what you are spreading around is supposedly CSAM, since by your words at that point, you are actively distributing CSAM which is a federal crime punishable by up to never seeing the sky again for the rest of your life.

It would be hilarious if they could pass ovum/fetus as cub porn, see the pregnant fandom goes into rage with FA...

I've sometimes wondered ever since purging my gallery on FA if I would end up regretting it.

Instead it's just been the opposite again and again and again.

The subjects and kinks/fetishes being highlighted here are of no interest to me, but I remember how it felt for ones I did care about to be put in the crosshairs and I empathize.

Hopefully it gets better one day, but I'm not holding my breath.

crocogator said:
Geez, this is all getting silly (and frustrating)... What's next? "Ban feral art for species that don't live to be 18 IRL"?

If you read the rules carefully they could make that argument.

"Minors are defined as real or fictional humanoids, animals, or fantasy creatures with a childlike body, the consciousness of a child, or younger than 18 years of age."

Notice that 'or' in the last sentence fragment?

this will continue up to the point where only hyper muscular men and huge breasted women are allowed. anything else, bye bye

supershiner said:
this will continue up to the point where only hyper muscular men and huge breasted women are allowed. anything else, bye bye

Muscular men poses an unhealthy body standard and incentivizes the use of steroids.
Sexualization of a body part intended to feed infants is f'd up.

/s

Honestly if a modmin doesn't understand the rules and goes on about eggs being minors as well as being behind some of the recent changes that has annoyed the whole community

Then why the hell is that person on your team, not only do they not know the rules but they're also behind some of the ones that have broke apart your community

Like it or not, ABDL is usually the first wall broken before they make more drastic changes, next will be Feral then Taboo

It's the same cycle again that sites like Patreon have gone through

Stop trying to sanitize the Furry Fandom, did they not learn from the Puritanical Burnt Furs why this is a fucking awful idea to be doing

Keep Furry Weird

dba_afish said:
also, I'm still of the opinion that FA just shouldn't allow minors period. and a opt-in feature that allows users to auto-block minors from having access to their account is a total non-solution that seems like its aim is to protect adults from having children view their content rather than doing anything to protect the children.

FurAffinity is not a general audience website, and it really never has been. the content of the site is made primarily by adults for other adults; and that's true whether a piece is SFW or not.

Agreed, although I was a minor when I started using the site years and years ago making the site focused more on being a place for minors to be willing not only actually make a lot of people leave but also put a huge liability on them for NSFW content

It is a huge gamble for a very small payoff, it's just going to turn into drama central

frostefyre said:
Can we just stop with the idea that one, every single place on the internet needs to be child safe because, "Oh, what if kids get on it." Stop punishing adults for the misgivings of terrible parents who cant keep their kids from going to places they shouldnt. There isnt a single damn reason one that a porn site should have limitations on uploads because, "It might be seen by kids." And if the content CAN be seen by kids, thats an even bigger issue than the content itself. Two, its fucking not real, its just not real, none of it is fucking real. Its all fantasy art that isnt bound by any laws of physical morality because again, it isnt real. You're fine to be offended by it, dont look at it. Block it, avoid it, dont go seeking it out, and heavens above dont go hunting it down just to lambast people in the comments about how disgusting it is. Further, don't go and collect a giant pile of it and start spreading it around, especially if what you are spreading around is supposedly CSAM, since by your words at that point, you are actively distributing CSAM which is a federal crime punishable by up to never seeing the sky again for the rest of your life.

I quite miss the internet from 15-20 years or more ago myself, before parents for some reason decided just handing a device to a child that has full access to it with no restrictions was a thing because somehow parents of today understand the internet even less then they used to. And then complain that their child accessed sites they shouldn't and its somehow our fault. Can just tell how much things have changed, considering I only got my first computer at the age of 16-17 and first phone at 18 haha. Not a thing at all today.

Tiktok and such sites only came out in 2016, Fortnite in 2017 and yet it feels like they have always existed now with how young of an age we find people are suddenly. These people just don't understand that everything on our furry sites is not real, its pure fantasy but they have trouble telling the difference between fantasy and reality. This site has a black list, you can literally only see things you want to see and I wish our other furry sites were the same.

casmin7~ said:
I quite miss the internet from 15-20 years or more ago myself, before parents for some reason decided just handing a device to a child that has full access to it with no restrictions was a thing because somehow parents of today understand the internet even less then they used to. And then complain that their child accessed sites they shouldn't and its somehow our fault. Can just tell how much things have changed, considering I only got my first computer at the age of 16-17 and first phone at 18 haha. Not a thing at all today.

I mean, we did have 12 YOs playing CoD, screaming racial slurs and claiming to have fucked each other's parents, back in the aughts. so parents letting kids access online spaces where they really should not be isn't particularly new.

dba_afish said:
I mean, we did have 12 YOs playing CoD, screaming racial slurs and claiming to have fucked each other's parents, back in the aughts. so parents letting kids access online spaces where they really should not be isn't particularly new.

That's very true, but the response wasn't "Oh no! We can't swear and t-bag each other! There's a CHILD here!" it was "Where the FUCK are your parents? Get kicked squeaker."

qwazzy said:
I've sometimes wondered ever since purging my gallery on FA if I would end up regretting it.

Instead it's just been the opposite again and again and again.

The subjects and kinks/fetishes being highlighted here are of no interest to me, but I remember how it felt for ones I did care about to be put in the crosshairs and I empathize.

Hopefully it gets better one day, but I'm not holding my breath.

qwazzy said:
I've sometimes wondered ever since purging my gallery on FA if I would end up regretting it.

Instead it's just been the opposite again and again and again.

The subjects and kinks/fetishes being highlighted here are of no interest to me, but I remember how it felt for ones I did care about to be put in the crosshairs and I empathize.

Hopefully it gets better one day, but I'm not holding my breath.

Yeah ever since I stopped posting on FA like 2 years ago in protest I thought I was gonna regret it but nope. Everyday they do something even more stupid and I am here in a big I told y'all so face to my friends who havent stopped using that site and only now realized how fucking stupid they really are. Let's just hope E6 dont take the same path. They already showing signs of that with them changing cubs to "young" and deleting thousands or Loli and Shota content. They are already heading down a slippery slope

LOL, technically, wasn't Mew being an embryo a stylistic choice in early concept art or something? Like the XX symbology in Earthbound/Mother series?

alphamule said:
LOL, technically, wasn't Mew being an embryo a stylistic choice in early concept art or something? Like the XX symbology in Earthbound/Mother series?

Embryos in general are fairly common imagery in monster designs because it's like. Fucking loaded with symbolic potential. Doesn't mean that everything that uses embryonic/egg/reproductive/pregnancy imagery is literally depicting a baby, fetus, or embryo. Especially when someone takes that squishy pink kitten and gives it honkin tits and a fat hog.
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supershiner said:
this will continue up to the point where only hyper muscular men and huge breasted women are allowed. anything else, bye bye

When you made too much amplification it feels ugly or wrong. For me that weird fetish with youngs that you can misundestand it as underage I define it like hyper young. Also too much amplification, so I'm not into it too.