I upload to this site every now and then and have never had any major problems until now. I uploaded 2 pictures (one in red/cyan 3D, the other a regular picture) I recently made with Daz Studio 4.6 Pro on Furaffinity and since it's currently down, I decided to post them here as well. ippiki ookami immediately deleted both of them because she thought they were screenshots of a video game, making them "irrelevant to the site". What kind of video game allows you to have a free-roaming camera that you can position anywhere you want at any angle while a naked guy and his tiny follower that's about to get stepped on fight a dragon?!? Granted it could be a cool game, I'm 99.9% sure it doesn't exist and 100% I didn't play it and take screenshots of it. Anyways, I then re-uploaded them and also uploaded 2 new pictures that were different than them. I even said that they weren't screenshots of any game, instead they're images I created with Daz in the descriptions! ippiki ookami then decided to delete ALL FOUR of them. The 2 re-uploads were because I "deliberately re-uploaded deleted posts" and the 2 new ones again because they were "irrelevant to the site". I then messaged ippiki ookami about it and he/she didn't even respond. What kind of admin does this bullshit then doesn't even respond to the messages?!? I want my images un-deleted and the neutral report taken off my profile completely.

Edit: Oh and ippiki ookami also put a neutral report on my profile for "Do not deliberately reupload previously deleted." even though they were deleted for an unfair and stupid reason...

In the blue Conner an average member that's really pissed off!
DisterbedA7X!

And in the red corner...
The undisputed champion of arguments!
Admin ippiki ookami!

Now then
LLLLLLLEEETSS GET READY TO RRRUUUUUUUMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLEEEE!

Killingsworth said:
In the blue Conner an average member that's really pissed off!
DisterbedA7X!

And in the red corner...
The undisputed champion of arguments!
Admin ippiki ookami!

Now then
LLLLLLLEEETSS GET READY TO RRRUUUUUUUMMMMMMBBBBBBBBLLLLLEEEE!

Rocket frog wins. :3

post #377097

I can't say much without sounding like one of those super irritating pseudo-mods, so from one member to another, I'm simply going to say:

Try taking this up personally with one of the other admins if - and only if - the problem consists. I should go on to say that there hasn't been a single community in which I've participated where consistently and excessively insulting an admin for any reason has ever resulted in anything good. While I won't say it's fair, what they did, I'll simply say that it's not a very good idea to go messing with them either.

You're on a bad path, friend, try taking the highroad and sticking to logic, reasoning and a higher power of UNPARALLELED ELOQUENCE! .. Otherwise they might ban you! And no one likes getting banned. ;3;

DisturbedA7X said:

https://e621.net/post/show/371863/3d-anaglyph-anal_vore-claws-disturbed_-artist-drag
and
https://e621.net/post/show/215245/3d-anaglyph-black_hair-boots-bracelet-building-cla

Damn! Look at these without 3-d glasses really hurt my eyes! But good job though I could never do anything like that. I do understand why ippiki deleted them, they do look a lot like screen shots. But still good job on those.

Shaye said:
(Things that make sense and are logical.)

Generally speaking, it's far more productive and polite to privately message the Lead Admin when you have an issue with another admin. Currently that would be this guy/girl: https://e621.net/user/show/108175 The reason for that is because the Lead Admin actually has the authority to review and weigh in one what is actually going on between you and any admins. Most the people reading this are just normal members who can't even see what was deleted. Ranting here isn't likely to get you any answers, just needless drama.

furballs_dc said:
Rocket frog wins. :3

post #377097

No, THIS won.

post #6890

DisturbedA7X said:
Thanks! And if they really do look that much like screenshots, then that's actually a huge compliment to me, too, because I'm about to change my college major to graphic design! :D

Cool I am taking graphic design as well, though I'm only in a basic class.

Even if I had seen the original images, and agreed with you, re-uploading them was the wrong thing to do.
It's against the rules to reupload deleted images.
Ifc you believe that they were unfairly deleted, the correct response it to make a forum post about it.

You didn't do that, you're the one in the wrong here.
Enjoy your probable incoming neg record, and possible incoming ban.

DisturbedA7X said:
1: I didn't know that, but even after you take that into consideration, note that ippiki also deleted the other 2 that had nothing to do with the first 2, and I never re-uploaded them.

2: Negative record/possible ban because a fucking ADMIN decided to be a douchebag? I doubt it.

3: I'm the one in the wrong? (Sarcasm:) Oh yeah because accidentally breaking one small rule that doesn't even affect anyone/anything is SOOOO much worse than deleting 4 pictures for invalid reasons!

Hey again, just stopping by to impart more sensibility here...

You should try to be a little more respectful in the future - the more you do this stuff where you're really defamatory and crude, the less the admins are going to listen to your pleas, and the less people that will support you. No one likes a sore fluffy butt, see? ;3;

You shouldn't bring drama onto the forums. You could have just PM'd him. lol.

Patch said:
You shouldn't bring drama onto the forums. You could have just PM'd him. lol.

I tried... he/she never responded. At all.

DisturbedA7X said:
If the admins don't do anything about this, I can always adjust the angle of the camera a little bit and redo the 3D and it'll be a new image, thus allowing me to upload it without it being a re-upload of any deleted posts.

Well, that's not really the point here. >3< But I wouldn't advise doing that either... 'cause y'know, it's still more or less re-uploading. It's essentially the same picture that has been deleted before. 3: You can't use loopholes in most cases, unfortunately. They need to be less obvious or far more obscure and free-from-lease on the rules. As it stands, I'd just suggest taking it up with another admin in a very polite manner. Someone has directed you to the head admin already, so I'd suggest just being hippy-hoodle with the other users who have replied here and treating them with the proper respect and kindness they deserve and will in turn show you. n3n;

Just um... yeah, don't do that thing where you do the thing and you end up blowing your lid. Just trying to help you out here, right? So... do that. :3

DisturbedA7X said:
1: I didn't know that, but even after you take that into consideration, note that ippiki also deleted the other 2 that had nothing to do with the first 2, and I never re-uploaded them.

2: Negative record/possible ban because a fucking ADMIN decided to be a douchebag? I doubt it.

3: I'm the one in the wrong? (Sarcasm:) Oh yeah because accidentally breaking one small rule that doesn't even affect anyone/anything is SOOOO much worse than deleting 4 pictures for invalid reasons!

Edit: 4: In your eyes, admins can make all the mistakes and do all the bullshit they want, but if the member makes 1 mistake, that 1 mistake is automatically worse than all of the admin's mistakes and therefore puts the member in the wrong? That's fucked up.

1. Small mistake was uploading an irrelevant image.
2. 2nd small mistake, not reading the website rules.
3. 3rd mistake, slightly less small, reuploading an image that was already deleted. Not a small mistake because it's common sense to not do that.
4. 4th mistake, large mistake, after being told not to reupload, you did so again, with a hostile remark toward an admin of the site.
5. 5th mistake, also large, making a thread on the forums about how you're being "mistreated" by an admin, after making all the previous mistakes.
6. 6+ mistake, your general anger, and hostility toward anyone who isn't taking your side here, and assumption that we're all just taking the admin's side because he's an admin.

In short, you done fucked up, bad.

Halite said:
1. Small mistake was uploading an irrelevant image.
2. 2nd small mistake, not reading the website rules.
3. 3rd mistake, slightly less small, reuploading an image that was already deleted. Not a small mistake because it's common sense to not do that.
4. 4th mistake, large mistake, after being told not to reupload, you did so again, with a hostile remark toward an admin of the site.
5. 5th mistake, also large, making a thread on the forums about how you're being "mistreated" by an admin, after making all the previous mistakes.
6. 6+ mistake, your general anger, and hostility toward anyone who isn't taking your side here, and assumption that we're all just taking the admin's side because he's an admin.

In short, you done fucked up, bad.

he dun goofed

DisturbedA7X said:
1: The image was not irrelevant.
2: I did read them, actually, but missed one on accident. I'm not a perfect person and have/will never say I am perfect.
3: I re-uploaded it mainly because when I re-uploaded it, I put that it wasn't a video game screenshot in the description of it.
4: I did not re-upload after I was told not to. I re-uploaded the 2 images at the SAME TIME.
5: Discredited due to me not even making those mistakes you're accusing me of.
6: Admin or not, I would talk to/treat him the same as I have been.
7: I'm not even making any assumptions of who's on who's side! I simply stated one thing earlier (that I'd uploaded 3D images before with no problems) to discredit that argument before anyone even made it!

Edit: Stop being a bitchy hypocrite by making assumptions/accusing me of shit I'm not even doing! (The hypocritical part of it is that you accused me of making assumptions/accusations)

Edit 2: You obviously don't even know what you're talking about, so just shut your ignorant mouth. Seriously, don't even bother replying because all you're going to do is spew out more false accusations and bullshit.

Being so aggressive isn't helping your case

Patch said:
( That point I've been trying to make the whole time. )

DisturbedA7X said:
So I'm just supposed to be ippiki's/Halite's/etc's bitch? No. Being nice to everyone including ippiki isn't going to get me any further than being mean would, and I'm not gonna kiss anyone's ass to get what I want. My attitude has nothing to do with what happened. What happened was that ippiki deleted posts that shouldn't have been deleted, then deleted the re-uploads (which is fine, since it was against the rules) along with the other 2 posts that were legit non-re-uploads once again. After all that, I tried to message ippiki about it (some hostility, because I was very frustrated but even if I were as nice as possible or kissed ippiki's ass about it, it wouldn't have mattered because ippiki didn't respond to the messages anyways) and got no responses.

He deleted those 4 hours ago, you posted this thread 2 hours ago, you gave him, at most, 2 hours to respond.

You're an idiot.

DisturbedA7X said:
I've sent a message to him/her. Thanks for letting me know who he is!

Not a problem. Good luck. Frustration is normal, and understandable. But I'd advise that you give the admins a chance to sort it out. Let the thread conflict die down on its own. Any drama created here will only obscure the real issue: were those images supposed to be deleted or allowed? And only a mod can answer that.

Walk it off, let things cool down, and let them have the chance to get to it. People are on different time zones here and it could be a little while for them to get online, talk to each other and to sort this out. If it's been a few days and you still haven't heard, then yeah feel free to send a follow up message. Most likely though you just have to let things have a chance to be investigated. It's in process now though, so give it time to happen.

Seriously, just log off and go do something to relax. It's not going to be any less frustrating, but at least then you'll be more clear-headed when you come back. Some users will stir up drama, but you don't want to make yourself the loudest example of that in this thread. And you don't want to sabotage your own case by letting your normal frustration get any further out of control. Do you really want to color yourself as a troublemaker when all you are is just really frustrated? It's not about kissing up to anybody here, it's about presenting yourself accurately. It's hard to want to choose the side of a person who seems hell-bent on lashing out at other users. Unless you're like this the whole time, stop now, cool down, and come back to show another more reasonable side of you. You could be as right as the day is long, but no one's going to hear you out when all they hear is drama and frustrated anger. People hear emotions better than they hear words.

So,let me recap, an Admin tells you stop something and you have nothing better to do than simply ignore him and go on a crusade against him? Not the smartest move.

Anyway, I looked at your deleted pictures, I would have deleted them too.
They are irrelevant simply because they are of a human standing above a much smaller human with a dragon somewhere in the background.

I'm unsure about you but we are kinda furry oriented, as long as that dragon isn't starting to rape the two dudes or something than they are simply irrelevant to our interests and you may wish to upload them onto another site.

And to all of you people, stop the drama and cussing at each other or I'm handing out records like flyers on a christian rock concert.

NotMeNotYou said:
So,let me recap, an Admin tells you stop something and you have nothing better to do than simply ignore him and go on a crusade against him? Not the smartest move.

Anyway, I looked at your deleted pictures, I would have deleted them too.
They are irrelevant simply because they are of a human standing above a much smaller human with a dragon somewhere in the background.

I'm unsure about you but we are kinda furry oriented, as long as that dragon isn't starting to rape the two dudes or something than they are simply irrelevant to our interests and you may wish to upload them onto another site.

And to all of you people, stop the drama and cussing at each other or I'm handing out records like flyers on a christian rock concert.

That iron fist. Well done, NMNY.

Well this thread escalated quickly...

An admin has every right to delete pictures they see unfit for the site. It's been that way for awhile. If you're so mad about it, make better pictures.

NotMeNotYou said:
So,let me recap, an Admin tells you stop something and you have nothing better to do than simply ignore him and go on a crusade against him? Not the smartest move.

Anyway, I looked at your deleted pictures, I would have deleted them too.
They are irrelevant simply because they are of a human standing above a much smaller human with a dragon somewhere in the background.

I'm unsure about you but we are kinda furry oriented, as long as that dragon isn't starting to rape the two dudes or something than they are simply irrelevant to our interests and you may wish to upload them onto another site.

And to all of you people, stop the drama and cussing at each other or I'm handing out records like flyers on a christian rock concert.

I love you.

DisturbedA7X said:
He was active at the time I messaged him. And the messages don't even have much to do with anything. What he did is the problem. The messages were an attempt for him to fix it while he was online. (And I know he was active because I messaged him right after he did all of this and when he put the report on my profile, he messaged me to let me know of it but that's all he said.

Deleting your images was the very last thing he did last night before he went to bed. He figured that you would complain about it, and that's nothing he wanted to deal with right before bed (I don't blame him at all for that). He's a human being and has to have sleep at some point. Accusing him of deliberately not responding just because he hasn't said anything in 2 HOURS is ridiculous. Now if he was still active elsewhere on the site during that time that you were waiting on a response, I could see that seeming like he's deliberately not responding, but even THEN he might have a perfectly legitimate reason as to why.

You've dug yourself pretty deep here and your way of disputing an admin's decision has been absolutely deplorable. I don't think you're going to find too many people coming to your defense on this.

DisturbedA7X said:
So I'll say it once again. Shut. Your. Ignorant. Mouth.

Completely unacceptable behavior. You've more than earned yourself a ban, in my opinion, but I'm interested in seeing what EDFDarkAngel thinks about you first once he's online again (he's also another admin that requires sleep every once in a while).

Char said:
EDFDarkAngel...(he's also another admin that requires sleep every once in a while).

Stop talking poopoo, Dave subsists on a strict diet of No-Doz and Monster and never sleeps.

Peekaboo said:
This thread was a good read, thanks for the entertainment.

This thread:

post #376576

DisturbedA7X said:
-snip-

All pictures you linked have the focus on the dragon, not on the humans, like I said, get the dragon in the focus of the picture and our decisions will be different.

There is a difference between telling someone to shut up and telling someone to shut his ignorant mouth, the word semantics should ring a bell.

It doesn't matter what Halite said, except the part about you being am idiot, that will very likely have consequences, you are in this case the main point, you called out others, you called out Ippiki on the images I deleted and a bit more to boot.

Lastly, you're attacking another admin, what little support you had going for you seems to dwindle fast.

Common sense (NotMeNotYou) said:
(Things you should very seriously take into consideration, and carefully reflect upon. Or you will get banned.)

Just apologize disterbeda7x, your on thin ice.

I'm gonna enjoy reading this thread when I wake up tomorrow.

furballs_dc said:
Rocket frog wins. :3

post #377097

Looks like rocket frog lost!

DisturbedA7X said:
I'm also not the one that deleted 4 pictures that someone actually worked pretty hard on because I thought they were screenshots of a fucking video game.

Just stop. It was funny at first, but now it's just getting ridiculous.

...He just wont stop, will he?

DisturbedA7X said:
It was ridiculous from the beginning. It was ridiculous that ippiki didn't even do any kind of background check (for lack of better terms) on the posts he/she thought were screenshots before he/she deleted them. All he/she had to do was click the source link and see that they were made with Daz Studio 4.6 Pro... or he/she could've just messaged me simply asking if they were screenshots or not and discussing it with me instead of just assuming they were screenshots and deleting my work.

He doesn't have to, though. He's an admin, and he's allowed to delete posts for being subjectively off-topic to the site's interests. About the only time they do some digging before removing an image is to see if it's pay material less than two years old.

corgi_bread said:
He doesn't have to, though. He's an admin, and he's allowed to delete posts for being subjectively off-topic to the site's interests. About the only time they do some digging before removing an image is to see if it's pay material less than two years old.

I'm surprised the OP didnt notice the other admin saying that they would have deleted the images themselves anyway for not focusing on the dragon.

NotMeNotYou said:
I looked at your deleted pictures, I would have deleted them too. They are irrelevant simply because they are of a human standing above a much smaller human with a dragon somewhere in the background.

All pictures you linked have the focus on the dragon, not on the humans, like I said, get the dragon in the focus of the picture and our decisions will be different.

DisturbedA7X said:
1: The 2 pics with the few humans attacking the dragon: The only difference is that it's colored differently and the humans aren't naked. My first image I uploaded (the original ones that got deleted) had the focus equally spread - and what I mean by that is that the camera was aiming in the middle of the fight, with the ability to see all of the characters. So tell me how that's any more "irrelevant" than the other guy's pictures of them fighting a dragon?!?

Pics I'm talking about: https://e621.net/post/show/338177/3d-amandabb-arrow-arrow-d-blood-claws-dragon-human and https://e621.net/post/show/338046/amandabb-arrow-blood-breasts-dragon-human-nude-pol

[Redacted]
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Look at this, your dragon isn't the focus, it got deleted because of irrelevancy.

DisturbedA7X said:
Either way, it's not like I'm saying "Shut the fuck up you ignorant piece of shit." or "Go to hell, ignorant dumbass". Seriously, if you're offended by being called ignorant and being told to shut up in the same sentence, then maybe you shouldn't have made ignorant accusations in the first place.

We try to hold up a rather high standard in our discussions at this place, Halite overstepped it, so did you, so did maybe a couple others I already forgot about.

DisturbedA7X said:
Again, it's all me. I'm the only fucking person on this site that has ever done anything wrong. If someone says something and I respond, no matter what they said, whatever I said is automatically wrong. Seriously, fuck off with that bull. I'm really tired of it. Also about the images, you act like I give a fuck about them anymore. I don't, by the way; the only thing i'm trying to do is make a point.

We expect all people to behave like rational adults on here, you started this thread with

DisturbedA7X said:
I then messaged ippiki ookami about it and he/she didn't even respond. What kind of admin does this bullshit then doesn't even respond to the messages?!?"

and then you followed that up with more cussing in later posts. If you can't make your point without swearing how about you don't say anything at all?
I doubt you would like me cussing at you in all my responses towards you, why should we like it that you do it towards us or someone of us?

DisturbedA7X said:
Again, I've also already said this. I don't care that it's an admin. I would say the same thing to/about him/her if it were a regular member. Just because they have the power to ban me does not mean I'm going to bow down or kiss their ass.

There is a high difference between behaving like a raving idiot, an ass kisser and someone who simply asks for an explanation and reconsideration from an admin.
We do not expect you to kiss our asses, we expect you to treat all people on this site the same way you wish to be treated, if you do not treat others like they deserve, why should we treat you any different?

DisturbedA7X said:
It was ridiculous from the beginning. It was ridiculous that ippiki didn't even do any kind of background check (for lack of better terms) on the posts he/she thought were screenshots before he/she deleted them. All he/she had to do was click the source link and see that they were made with Daz Studio 4.6 Pro... or he/she could've just messaged me simply asking if they were screenshots or not and discussing it with me instead of just assuming they were screenshots and deleting my work.

Why does this matter so much to you? What are you hoping to achieve by continuing to insist that you're right and everyone else is wrong?

Nothing wrong with standing up for principals, but most people manage to do that whilst still being polite at the same time. Personal attacks against admin are definitely not a good way to make your case.

If threads had tags, I would have tagged this as lol_comments. (I like how ippiki didn't respond once yet XD and the Disturbed dude is going to get hit with a ban hammer)

TheHuskyK9 said:
If threads had tags, I would have tagged this as lol_comments. (I like how ippiki didn't respond once yet XD and the Disturbed dude is going to get hit with a ban hammer)

Lol I was thinking the same thing...
(They are only human, and humans do need sleep, besides no need to bother ippiki about this)

Alrighty then.

So, just to make sure I understand this:

Disturbed uploaded two images, ippiki deleted them based on irrelevancy.

Disturbed then uploaded the same images again, defending his actions as relevant. Ippiki deleted them again, and flagged the user with a neutral record.

Then Disturbed created a forum post about the actions that occurred, going so far as to demand action against an administrator. Immediately succeeding that, Disturbed uploaded the same images a third time.

As additional defense, Disturbed claimed ippiki's lack of response and chose to call their actions stupid, continuing to use insults against administrators and userbase alike.

Despite numerous calls and warnings from both administrators NotMeNotYou and Char, as well as fellow forum members, Disturbed persisted in their actions and made the situation far worse.

Disturbed, if you had contacted the staff after the original pictures were taken down, and then waited for our response, we might have ruled in your favor. However, now you were told that the images were not irrelevant, then you uploaded them again, then AGAIN a second time. Between that and the comments in this thread, this stopped being an issue of your picture upload's relevancy and became an issue of your disrespect to your fellow users and to the administration staff.

As you have already read, NotMeNotYou and Char have both made their call on this. I am going to support them in their decision. Additionally, ippiki was correct in taking those images down. I still might have agreed with you if you presented a decent case, but this has strayed far from that.

corgi_bread said:
This thread:

post #376576

Funny you post that, in a thread about irrelevant pics that do/don't get accepted. *rolls eyes*

Betting $50 on him coming back after his ban even more mad then before and making another forum post.

Pyke said:
Betting $50 on him coming back after his ban even more mad then before and making another forum post.

Or angry ban evasion.

Since this issue has been dealt with, I'm going to lock the thread to prevent any additional issues.

lol