I've been pondering this for a while now and noticed that most of the furries I've seen are clueless or really don't care much for social media. For example, I've asked a furry dude about something on Facebook and he didn't even know what Facebook was. Found out he never heard of Facebook, Vine, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, Tumblr, etc. I've even seen some users here on e6 that have never heard of such things. I ask you this, are the majority of furries anti-social or am I assuming too much?

TheHuskyK9 said:
I've been pondering this for a while now and noticed that most of the furries I've seen are clueless or really don't care much for social media. For example, I've asked a furry dude about something on Facebook and he didn't even know what Facebook was. Found out he never heard of Facebook, Vine, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, Tumblr, etc. I've even seen some users here on e6 that have never heard of such things. I ask you this, are the majority of furries anti-social or am I assuming too much?

I wouldnt call not knowing about instagram, flickr or face-whatever anti social....I would say they just know less about some net sites then others. It has nothing to do with being anti social. Just some people are less net savvy then others, if you are going to judge someone for being social or not social then knowledge of the net is the worst possible subject to look over.

uhhh. yes. most furries are anti-social because they don't participate in social networking websites. yyess

I have Facebook but for family only.

Does that count?

Feathering said:
uhhh. yes. most furries are anti-social because they don't participate in social networking websites. yyess

Implying talking to people on facebook makes you social? ....lol

Patch said:
I have Facebook but for family only.

Does that count?

I hate facebook myself, I just got it for some family as well....but I think it depends if you use it or not, however facebook or any website shouldnt have any say in being social or not. I mean its the internet for fucks sake. Its just some code, a screen, and a series of tubes.

Well what is sociability? I think it's an aptitude, comfort-level and even the craving to be around/interact with humans on some regular basis. Obviously introverts and extroverts take that to different levels of human interaction. And to some degree, everyone craves/needs some kind of human interaction. But to have all three usually creates sociability.

I have a pet peeve with people placing "social media" so high as some sort of newfound social mecca. It's not. Many strong extroverts, social butterflies, and socially savvy people still prefer in person interactions. They aren't online and don't use social media accounts because it feels socially removed from the real people behind the accounts. Social media is just like telephones and letter writing: one aspect of social interaction, nothing more. Some people prefer it or excel at it, which is great for them. But it's far from a full social interaction, just like anything else. Even in person has some pros and cons to it, but it's a lot less filtered of an interaction than all the other mediums.

My end point is: knowing social media sites doesn't in itself equate to being sociable. Conker's right, the online savvy and the fad chasers are the only groups that are going to consistently know all the current social media sites. The solid extroverts are usually out in real life doing stuff and ignoring the net; the solid introverts are usually lurking on corners of the net that interest them while giving anything labeled social media a wide berth because it's not their thing/don't know what to say. Both groups have no use for it. It's only a section of the population that really uses social media. And some of those aren't actually social people, they're just trying to be popular or get attention.

But I think your main point may be partially true. I think a lot of people who are drawn to define themselves as "furry" are people who feel socially awkward in the outside world and see furrydom as a chance to "be themselves", to fit in, to be noticed, to belong. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's at the core of being human. Not all of furries are that way, but there is a percentage that are. They're also the most visible section of furryville. The rest are going to be harder to spot, because they probably have one foot in the furry world, and the other firmly rooted in outside interests. Part-time furries may not even define themselves that way, go to cons, dress up, or collect merchandise, etc. They spend most of their time in other interests, mixed friends and mixed hobbies. Those people are more likely to be socially comfortable, but you're also more likely to meet them in some other activity and only find out they're furry by accident long after the fact.

People who use "social" media are anti-social.

Peekaboo said:
Since I've played my fair share of videogames over the years, I've come across a loooooot of these kinds of people.

The reason I play everything in singleplayer, fuck player two, player two is dumb.

Anyway, I'd go out on a limb and say that antisocial people will be just as often social or antisocial as all other groups of peoples.
The furry fandom can be an attempt to escape loneliness otherwise but I doubt this will be the case for the majority of furries.

NotMeNotYou said:
fuck player two, player two is dumb.

...but you are player two in life :o

Maybe defining what "anti-social" is.
Cuz most of the time, from my experience, people say "anti-social" and just mean "unsociable."

So in conclusion from reading all this: Furries dislike social networking sites and anyone who uses them are attention whores, and fuck player two....got it.

TheHuskyK9 said:
So in conclusion from reading all this: Furries dislike social networking sites and anyone who uses them are attention whores, and fuck player two....got it.

Aren't you glad you asked furries for opinions?

TheHuskyK9 said:
So in conclusion from reading all this: Furries dislike social networking sites and anyone who uses them are attention whores, and fuck player two....got it.

Dat sensationalizing

I do have Flickr. =^.^=

furballs_dc said:
I do have Flickr. =^.^=

First time I heard of it along with vine and instagram LOL

I don't use FB at all because I don't like people stick their nose into me business also it take too much time :3
(I also don't like smart phones)

furrypickle said:
Well what is sociability? I think it's an aptitude, comfort-level and even the craving to be around/interact with humans on some regular basis. Obviously introverts and extroverts take that to different levels of human interaction. And to some degree, everyone craves/needs some kind of human interaction. But to have all three usually creates sociability.

I have a pet peeve with people placing "social media" so high as some sort of newfound social mecca. It's not. Many strong extroverts, social butterflies, and socially savvy people still prefer in person interactions. They aren't online and don't use social media accounts because it feels socially removed from the real people behind the accounts. Social media is just like telephones and letter writing: one aspect of social interaction, nothing more. Some people prefer it or excel at it, which is great for them. But it's far from a full social interaction, just like anything else. Even in person has some pros and cons to it, but it's a lot less filtered of an interaction than all the other mediums.

My end point is: knowing social media sites doesn't in itself equate to being sociable. Conker's right, the online savvy and the fad chasers are the only groups that are going to consistently know all the current social media sites. The solid extroverts are usually out in real life doing stuff and ignoring the net; the solid introverts are usually lurking on corners of the net that interest them while giving anything labeled social media a wide berth because it's not their thing/don't know what to say. Both groups have no use for it. It's only a section of the population that really uses social media. And some of those aren't actually social people, they're just trying to be popular or get attention.

But I think your main point may be partially true. I think a lot of people who are drawn to define themselves as "furry" are people who feel socially awkward in the outside world and see furrydom as a chance to "be themselves", to fit in, to be noticed, to belong. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's at the core of being human. Not all of furries are that way, but there is a percentage that are. They're also the most visible section of furryville. The rest are going to be harder to spot, because they probably have one foot in the furry world, and the other firmly rooted in outside interests. Part-time furries may not even define themselves that way, go to cons, dress up, or collect merchandise, etc. They spend most of their time in other interests, mixed friends and mixed hobbies. Those people are more likely to be socially comfortable, but you're also more likely to meet them in some other activity and only find out they're furry by accident long after the fact.

This, this, so much this. ESPECIALLY the latter part. May I actually, like, quote this and frame it elsewhere? (Not a blog or anything, but for personal reading and for close friends)

Butterscotch said:
First time I heard of it along with vine and instagram LOL

http://www.flickr.com/photos/76739248@N06/sets/72157629710624531/

123easy said:
This, this, so much this. ESPECIALLY the latter part. May I actually, like, quote this and frame it elsewhere? (Not a blog or anything, but for personal reading and for close friends)

Sure, fine with me.

Anti social is the wrong word, but furries do have a tendancy to be social recluses.

People who are generally more withdrawn from society tend to use the internet a lot, and people who use the internet a lot are more likely to be introduced to furries.

I'm a furry and have no social skills besides having a job and answerings questions :I

I also have a facebook account (family, close friends and no games), youtube, tumblr, myspace (not using it but never cancelled, it may be suspended or dead) and many more (those are probably dead too)

Well I agree with almost all of these statements!
Except the fuck you to player two.
No body pays attention to weegee!

Killingsworth said:
Except the fuck you to player two.
No body pays attention to weegee!

Well, it is the year of Luigi. =^-^=

I'm pretty sure a lot of furries are antisocial, because its a fucking fetish and not everyone likes to flaunt what makes them perverse...

Moon_Moon said:
I'm pretty sure a lot of furries are antisocial, because its a fucking fetish and not everyone likes to flaunt what makes them perverse...

Being a furry doesn't mean it's strictly a fetish. Believe it or not, there's furries who don't like the perverted side of it. Just because they are furries, doesn't mean they are sex-crazed individuals that want to do orgies all the time

furballs_dc said:
Well, it is the year of Luigi. =^-^=

post #385917

Yes. =^.^=

furballs_dc said:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76739248@N06/sets/72157629710624531/

Fuck yeah fur fighters. Criminally under popular

DudeManGuy said:
Fuck yeah fur fighters. Criminally under popular

Woo! Someone else knows it. Doing mods too and looking into how it works. =^.^=

DudeManGuy said:
Fuck yeah fur fighters. Criminally under popular

I thought it was painfully average, and I really wanted to love it. Still fun and all . . .

Modding it to fix things could be awesome. Just sayin'

furballs_dc said:
Woo! Someone else knows it. Doing mods too and looking into how it works. =^.^=

:3

furrypickle said:
But I think your main point may be partially true. I think a lot of people who are drawn to define themselves as "furry" are people who feel socially awkward in the outside world and see furrydom as a chance to "be themselves", to fit in, to be noticed, to belong. And there's nothing wrong with that, it's at the core of being human. Not all of furries are that way, but there is a percentage that are. They're also the most visible section of furryville. The rest are going to be harder to spot, because they probably have one foot in the furry world, and the other firmly rooted in outside interests. Part-time furries may not even define themselves that way, go to cons, dress up, or collect merchandise, etc. They spend most of their time in other interests, mixed friends and mixed hobbies. Those people are more likely to be socially comfortable, but you're also more likely to meet them in some other activity and only find out they're furry by accident long after the fact.

That is a near perfect description of me. I don't have many social media accounts, but the ones I do have, I use A LOT. But ironically enough, I don't so much use it to keep up with family/friends as much anymore, the part that takes up most of my time on it is keeping up with bands/music, car culture, and other interests of mine(heads to Batten Down the Hatches' Facebook page and listens to them as we speak). Ask anyone, they'll tell you, I'm on Facebook all day, everyday, all the time. But that's because I lost what little was left of my boring life over the past 5 years(Goddamn parents, but that's another story), which made me lazy as fuck, and then I got a laptop last year, so that didn't really help things either... The internet is my life.

You're right, I am a pretty awkward person, and I'm embarrassed to tell anyone, even my close friends that I'm a furry, and they know the stuff I like to look at! I try and fit in here since this is the main place where I can express my interest and love for this sort of thing, but even here it doesn't work out for me LOL I'm willing to bet a lot of people(or at least the well known forum posters) don't really care for me too much. You'd probably never see me at a con, and as much as I used to be against the idea, I have thought about dressing up and the idea is growing on me a little, but I still probably wouldn't. At the end of your statement you said that people like this are probably fairly socially comfortable. This is the one thing that is completely the opposite of me; I'm rather awkward. Not as much as I like to think I am though, sometimes I like to overplay my awkwardness irl(especially around girls) in an attempt to be cute, but I don't like hiding who I am either, so I don't overdo it too much. It's not like I have to try anyways, that's how I am.

xTheWolf94x said:
...I'm willing to bet a lot of people(or at least the well known forum posters) don't really care for me too much...

One thing I've learned is that this is rarely the case. Most people just feel neutral towards most other people. They don't know them, don't notice much about them, don't have much of an opinion about them. Just a blank slate, neutral, completely open to take it in any direction you choose to make known about yourself. And, as far as I know, that's the case here too. So don't be too hard on yourself.

And there's always two factors to keep in mind: 1, apathy or ignorance is much more common than dislike. So if you're not sure, assume it's the more common of the two. Trust me, if someone actually dislikes you, they'll make sure there's plenty of reasons for you to know that's how they feel. They make it obvious. But that's not that common.

2, a person's opinion says more about who they are and how they think, than it ever does about you. People see everything through a lens of their own opinions, their own problems, their own perspective on the world. When they see negative, some of that's inside. When they see positive, some of that's inside. People can see things in other people that aren't even there, just because they can't see past it in their own lives. The main point is: even when you run into someone else's opinion about you, I wouldn't take it straight to heart. It's feedback, but not always accurate. Weigh it against what you know about yourself, don't swallow it whole. Sometimes what they say or feel is more about them than it is about you. I've had to learn that one the hard way.

One more thing: if you ever want to get more comfortable with people, (I know some people don't, so I'm not going to assume), then excessive practice, observation, and mimicry are the best tools to get you there. A common misconception is that people who are social kings and queens were born that way. But they actually had to learn it just like the rest of us. They just managed to learn it when they were young: a headstart, but not a rare trait. The fact is, we're all members of a very social species (primates), so we all have the innate ability to be social. It's in there somewhere and, with enough work, it can be developed into a skill that you can have at your disposal.

@furrypickle Are you a psychologist? It's like you know the cheat codes of life

I know this sites, but I don't use them.

I just love to be alone. No difference between virtuality or reality

TheHuskyK9 said:
@furrypickle Are you a psychologist? It's like you know the cheat codes of life

Nah, I'm pretty sure its the "I've been in psychology 101 for 6 weeks now, don't worry I got this" thing.

I don't think it's fair to generalize like that.

I know I'm largely anti-social because that's how I've always been, long before I even heard of a "furry".

I don't like Facebook and the like. It just seems pointless when I have very very few friends be it online or off. I liken all those sites to MySpace back when it was cool; all the kids have one because that's what's popular. :p

Actually, even posting on this forum is foreign to me. I don't know any of you, and only one person on this whole site knows me. I'm just here to showcase my sorry attempt at drawing the occasional smut. :\

furrypickle said:
a lot

Thank you for the advice man, I'm glad someone actually cared enough to read all that useless garbage I put there Lol

Moon_Moon said:
Nah, I'm pretty sure its the "I've been in psychology 101 for 6 weeks now, don't worry I got this" thing.

Sounds about right

xTheWolf94x said:
Thank you for the advice man, I'm glad someone actually cared enough to read all that useless garbage I put there Lol

A lot more stupid bullshit about me

Honestly, I've been trying some of the things you mentioned almost all my life, especially mimcry. But that doesn't really work for me much. They either see through me or just look at me as a poser who's trying too hard to be relevant(which honestly is really what I've always been, whether it's been the Nitto Legends forums or here on e621). I've always used observation, which in most cases leads to me attempting mimicry. Which sometimes gets me in trouble. I've had it happen a fair amount of times over the past 5 or so years where I end up offending people unintentionally, although in some cases it may have had to do with my age at the time, hence why I couldn't get away with certain things(I'm 19). It's what happens when you grow up largely alone and you don't learn from association. And then suddenly when you get older you're hit with the way the world is, and the way people communicate, and you don't exactly know how to work with that since you never really had a chance to learn. That's not to say I haven't been practicing like you mentioned though. And I'm better than I used to be. Still not what I want to be though. My problem is probably that I've expected something of myself for many years, but circumstances and personal restraints have hampered progress. Shit, I'm rambling again. I better shut up before I think of some other crap...

Oh... my... gosh... I completely understand you!

Let me a little try to describe your personality:
You are a highly sensitive person such people usually are introverts (not to be confused with autism !) and in major, their hobby is culture, science, visual arts, poetry etc.
In one word, such people are creative and romantic. Anyone can hurt the creative people because of sensitivity to rough words and perpetual confusion. It's not bad, it's not good, this is your inner world, it just is.

I don't know exactly what to do, but I only can advise you to:
a) try to pay less attention to what people say.
b) try to deliberately avoid negative humans to people with personality as you have.
c) Be proud you are is you are, and you're not like bunch of others.

By the way, Steve Jobs was creative and introvert, maybe so far not such sensitive but strong mentally and very dreamy.

Who knows what plans for us have the Fate.

xTheWolf94x said:
Thank you for the advice man, I'm glad someone actually cared enough to read all that useless garbage I put there Lol

A lot more stupid bullshit about me

Honestly, I've been trying some of the things you mentioned almost all my life, especially mimcry. But that doesn't really work for me much. They either see through me or just look at me as a poser who's trying too hard to be relevant(which honestly is really what I've always been, whether it's been the Nitto Legends forums or here on e621). I've always used observation, which in most cases leads to me attempting mimicry. Which sometimes gets me in trouble. I've had it happen a fair amount of times over the past 5 or so years where I end up offending people unintentionally, although in some cases it may have had to do with my age at the time, hence why I couldn't get away with certain things(I'm 19). It's what happens when you grow up largely alone and you don't learn from association. And then suddenly when you get older you're hit with the way the world is, and the way people communicate, and you don't exactly know how to work with that since you never really had a chance to learn. That's not to say I haven't been practicing like you mentioned though. And I'm better than I used to be. Still not what I want to be though. My problem is probably that I've expected something of myself for many years, but circumstances and personal restraints have hampered progress. Shit, I'm rambling again. I better shut up before I think of some other crap...

Just be yourself

TheHuskyK9 said:
Just be yourself

Unless you shouldn't....
You know who you are

Loc0 said:
Oh... my... gosh... I completely understand you!

Let me a little try to describe your personality:
You are a highly sensitive person such people usually are introverts (not to be confused with autism !) and in major, their hobby is culture, science, visual arts, poetry etc.
In one word, such people are creative and romantic. Anyone can hurt the creative people because of sensitivity to rough words and perpetual confusion. It's not bad, it's not good, this is your inner world, it just is.

I don't know exactly what to do, but I only can advise you to:
a) try to pay less attention to what people say.
b) try to deliberately avoid negative humans to people with personality as you have.
c) Be proud you are is you are, and you're not like bunch of others.

By the way, Steve Jobs was creative and introvert, maybe so far not such sensitive but strong mentally and very dreamy.

I love this quote so much!

Here’s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square holes.
The ones who see things differently. They’re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them.
About the only thing you can’t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They invent. They imagine. They heal. They explore. They create. They inspire. They push the human race forward.
Maybe they have to be crazy.
How else can you stare at an empty canvas and see a work of art? Or sit in silence and hear a song that’s never been written? Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?
We make tools for these kinds of people.
While some see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.

Who knows what plans for us have the Fate.

It may not make a lot of sense considering what I said earlier, but to a large degree, I actually don't care what a lot of people think of me. I like to think of myself as a Jeremy McKinnon sort of character. Contradictory right?

TheHuskyK9 said:
Just be yourself

I try