I mean, think about it. How much art do we have on this site? How often do artists ask for their artwork to be taken down?

How many of you *assume* that permission has been given when you already see artwork by someone on here? I figure that number could be pretty big.

Quite frankly, asking permission doesn't appear to be the status quo.

And...how about a DP (do post) list? I guess it would be pretty large but you could see who is actually okay with their art getting posted on the site. That would also eliminated multiple people asking permission for the same artist (hypothetically)

There could be artist groups like in 20pc.org (permission_given, permission_required, permission_requested). Personally till now I've been uploading mainly those who are on first list on 20pc.

Also

How often do artists ask for their artwork to be taken down?

Not really that much, considering size of site.

First of note, some artists are comfortable having their art hosted at 20pc, but not on e6, such as the well known egophiliac.

I ask permission every time, but if they have plenty of art here already and it's been a few months, then I assume they know and don't care.

I have around 3 full pages of notes on FA that are almost exclusively messages asking for permission. But I only ask if they don't already have art on the site.

And that's a no-go on the Do-Post list. 20PC has one because all they have to worry about is pony artists. We have tens of thousands of artists we'd have to list, many of whom could end up changing their mind anyway. Not to mention it would be an unreasonably daunting task, considering its redundancy and impracticality. And I doubt any mods here would have the time or desire to undertake such an implausible endeavor.

Just look at the DNP list. Is the artist there? If not, then it's fine. If the art gets removed, then it gets removed.

Barring a parody edit I made, I get permission before I upload. Admittedly this means I don't upload much, but I rarely view furry art outside of this site anyways.

I always thoguht that uploaing was the asking for permission, and moderator approval was the permission granted, everything else kinda comes by tiself.

Then again, I'm not much of an uploader.

I am amused a pony only site has artists that are touchy, given that the chars are not theirs, you know, at all. :)

I'd probably ask permission if I didn't see any other work of theirs on this site

CamKitty said:
I am amused a pony only site has artists that are touchy, given that the chars are not theirs, you know, at all. :)

But they spent hours recoloring and thinking up a new name! D:

In my opinion if you put your artwork up on the internet and do not add a disclaimer that it isn't to be redistributed or reposted anywhere without your express consent, then it's fair game to spread around. As an artist, you really can't expect that everyone will do you the courtesy of asking for permission before posting it somewhere else.

I have permission from the about 600 artists I watch on FA for uploading.

I've just look closer on permission_given list on 20pc and it was updated 5 times, last time 7 months ago, so maybe it's not a good idea after all.

And maybe I should ask some artists, instead of taking combination of permission on 20pc/permission stated on deviantart/posted already here/ not in DNP.
Besides my laziness, and artistophobia (Yes, I feel unconformable on site when artists can block you from giving them favorites and watches, and in its FAQ there is question if they could block even more people.) aren't people annoyed about asking the same question over and over? I know normal person wouldn't, but we're talking about the artists, the same ones who made take down request because their fursona is not tagged cuntboy.

ippiki_ookami said:
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Just look at the DNP list. Is the artist there? If not, then it's fine. If the art gets removed, then it gets removed.

Clipped for the last bit. It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

Kclub said:
In my opinion if you put your artwork up on the internet and do not add a disclaimer that it isn't to be redistributed or reposted anywhere without your express consent, then it's fair game to spread around. As an artist, you really can't expect that everyone will do you the courtesy of asking for permission before posting it somewhere else.

I think that's a little rash...and easily a thief mentality. Let's be honest: this is what makes it okay for thieves to post someone else's are to their own account on, like deviantart.

hg3300 said:
I think that's a little rash...and easily a thief mentality. Let's be honest: this is what makes it okay for thieves to post someone else's are to their own account on, like deviantart.

Thief mentality? Really? Now who's being a little rash? If they have no disclaimer saying that they don't want it reposted anywhere else, then it's fair game, this isn't a hard concept to understand. And art thieves always get what comes to them, because in this day and age you can't pass off someone else's art as your own for too long before they catch wind of it and you get bent over a chair.

Your slippery slope theory is terrible and holds no water.

hg3300 said:
I think that's a little rash...and easily a thief mentality. Let's be honest: this is what makes it okay for thieves to post someone else's are to their own account on, like deviantart.

Confirmed for troll thread.

hg3300 said:
I think that's a little rash...and easily a thief mentality. Let's be honest: this is what makes it okay for thieves to post someone else's are to their own account on, like deviantart.

Not even close.

Posting someones art is not the same thing as art theft. Claiming it as their own is.

I get all posts off Tumblr.
Welp, not anymore.

Jeheezus people...

I'm simply saying that it's their art and you don't inherently have a right to take it where you please. Let's compare them to individual song files...you shouldn't be posting em where you damn well please just because you're not taking credit for their work. That doesn't automatically make it okay. The same is true for ALL forms of art.

Calling me a troll is just bullshit. I don't tolerate that sort of defamation, so bugger off. At least ippiki was nice enought to provide a fair rebuttal to my statements without attacking. I was not attacking anyone when I said that. I'm just saying that a thief would have that sort of "you can just spread it wherever the hell you want" mentality. Now, it's not actually theft in the case of reposting, obviously, but the mentality still applies.

I'm not saying I'm against the site or anything. As a show of respect, though, one should always be sure to have gotten permission to post first.

Kclub said:
f they have no disclaimer saying that they don't want it reposted anywhere else, then it's fair game, this isn't a hard concept to understand.

It's a severely flawed mentality. Oh, I know, let's just post this individual's work everywhere! Okay, I know it's hard to control distribution of online content, but you can't just disregard the artists' rights in the matter.

I think I've asked for permission once? Otherwise, all of my uploads involve artists who already have posts on the site.

I don't like to ask for permission, so I generally avoid making the first upload for a new artist.

hg3300 said:
It's a severely flawed mentality. Oh, I know, let's just post this individual's work everywhere! Okay, I know it's hard to control distribution of online content, but you can't just disregard the artists' rights in the matter.

What rights? Where are you getting this notion of rights from? There are no 'rights' about reposting art somewhere else if it's not being claimed to be your own, and they have no 'rights' to the art being only posted there, nor do they have any 'rights' to people asking to repost it.

I most certainly can disregard 'rights' in the matter, especially if those rights don't even exist in the first place.

My philosophy: if you yield to the concerns of people who get their panties in a bunch over who faps to their smut then you won't have nice things. If it's blatant porn that's already made freely available on the internet by the artist, it can be posted without permission provided you link to the source. If they don't like it they can still ask for removal after it's been posted. Bottom line is nobody should be surprised if their furry porn gets posted to a furry porn site (which is primarily what e621 is.) It's porn on the internet; be realistic. This may technically still be "wrong" but if you want sites like this to continue to exist, you have to pick your battles. I frankly am not going to lose any sleep over the rights of furry porn artists.

If it's not porn, you should always ask the artist because the artist may not want to be associated with a furry porn site. This is a simple courtesy that makes sense.

I admit this philosophy is mostly based on my own feelings as an artist. If I see my porn posted somewhere I didn't put it, I'm usually flattered (especially if it's sourced.) If I see my regular art posted to a questionable website, I'm usually going to want it removed because of the association (which has only happened to me once.)

I will never understand why some people post their art to the internet and then get angry when people share it and appreciate it, and I enjoy this site too much to care.

SirAntagonist said:
I get all posts off Tumblr.
Welp, not anymore.

speaking of which I found a picture of Mikhaila on some tumblr place and would like to know from an Administrator if I can upload it. I don't see an artist name, but I do see SexyFur, which is a pay site. However the person who did the tumblr place had a membership, and it doesn't say "do not distribute". Now I'm confused if I can upload it or not. Also I'm having trouble locating the DNP list. Help?

itsapainfulworld said:
speaking of which I found a picture of Mikhaila on some tumblr place and would like to know from an Administrator if I can upload it. I don't see an artist name, but I do see SexyFur, which is a pay site. However the person who did the tumblr place had a membership, and it doesn't say "do not distribute". Now I'm confused if I can upload it or not. Also I'm having trouble locating the DNP list. Help?

DNP list is here. And no, it is never okay to upload sexyfur.

ippiki_ookami said:
DNP list is here. And no, it is never okay to upload sexyfur.

EVER!
He doesn't know who you are...
He doesn't know what you want...
But Jeremy will find you...
and he will sue you...

(Jayfeather) said:
EVER!
He doesn't know who you are...
He doesn't know what you want...

If you are looking for good art, I can tell you I don't any. But what I do have are lawyers with a very particular set of skills; skills they have acquired over a very long career of pointless, aggressive litigation. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you take down my art now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not sue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will take you to court.

ippiki_ookami said:
DNP list is here. And no, it is never okay to upload sexyfur.

thank you.

Kclub said:
If you are looking for good art, I can tell you I don't any. But what I do have are lawyers with a very particular set of skills; skills they have acquired over a very long career of pointless, aggressive litigation. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you take down my art now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not sue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will take you to court.

Take all the monies in this small Ziploc baggy.

I have made a decision: I will no longer be uploading artwork just because I see the artist is on the site. I will only be uploading my own commissions and art that I have personally gotten permission to upload. One of the artists I upload regularly has requested that I stop; this is mainly due to a recent rash of DA art theft. I feel that it's for the best and besides, if you want to see his art you can take your thumbs out of your asses and go to furaffinity.

hg3300 said:
I have made a decision: I will no longer be uploading artwork just because I see the artist is on the site. I will only be uploading my own commissions and art that I have personally gotten permission to upload. One of the artists I upload regularly has requested that I stop; this is mainly due to a recent rash of DA art theft. I feel that it's for the best and besides, if you want to see his art you can take your thumbs out of your asses and go to furaffinity.

That's nice, honey.

Kclub said:
That's nice, honey.

Thanks, dear.
/sarcasm

Yeah okay thumbs out and all... Too bad FA is always broken for me and E6 is the only way I get to see the stuff that's originally posted there.

ScarecrowJack said:
Too bad FA is always broken

that's always good to hear.

ScarecrowJack said:
Yeah okay thumbs out and all... Too bad FA is always broken for me and E6 is the only way I get to see the stuff that's originally posted there.

thumbs not working? Ctrl+F5, your javascript failed.

ScarecrowJack said:
Yeah okay thumbs out and all... Too bad FA is always broken for me and E6 is the only way I get to see the stuff that's originally posted there.

Still using IE? If FA's "always broken" for you you're doing something wrong.