Topic: Bad grammar, ESL, and other language issues

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There are plenty of artists whose work gets posted here who have difficulty with the English language. Some of them don't live in anglophone countries (e.g., Argentina or Japan) while others might be native English speakers who just never mastered the rules of the language.

This isn't news, nor is it interesting. What for me to make this, though, was the griping I sometimes see in comments on pictures, comics especially, that contain badly mangled English to the effect that "poor English diminishes my enjoyment of this artwork".

Really? Maybe I'm biased, since I'm bilingual and have often had to try to interpret broken English all my life, so I find it much easier. I also work with a mix of South Asian immigrants and uneducated Americans, so I hear this kind of language abuse all the time in my work life. But seriously, you don't come to this site for the Queen's English, you come for the pretty pictures... And I bet you can figure out what the artist intends to convey, in his or her broken English, without too much effort.

An I alone in thinking it's churlish to complain that someone who's not a native speaker of your language, yet is making an effort to reach you with his content, is using your language poorly?

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People on the internet are rude?
I find that difficult to believe.

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I've seen worse than English from actual native speakers, who usually deny help from anybody.

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Seven_Twenty said:
I've seen worse than English from actual native speakers, who usually deny help from anybody.

Like 'Street'. or 'txtspeek'. *shudders* "I h8 u lyk 4evr" is a key example of the latter.

Now, while I don't demand perfect spelling, I do prefer what I'm reading to follow basic logical concatenation, and use of a simple spell/grammar checker at least. I mean, sure, sometimes you misspell, or use the wrong word, but when you write, "You mine see make legs calendar!" to mean, "Take a look at those legs! They go on for days!", it just makes me sigh and shake my head, totally taking me out of whatever mindset I was in because of reading horribly mangled text (and yes, I HAVE seen someone write something like that when trying to roleplay. I actually was quite polite with them, believe it or not, and ended up giving them some help with learning English. He got markedly better following his lesson plan and with having me available to assist him with things he didn't understand).

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I Don't See Any Problem With Writing. i mean my speling is so OK i dont even need punctuation liek u nevur seen any1 doin it liek dis :)))))))

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@Peekaboo

If you just wrote that, I can't imagine how much pain it must've caused you.

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oi m8 wut da fuk did u say about me ill fookin cut ur gabber m8 i swer ill rek u step otside rite now

Peekaboo said tried to say:
"hi every1 im not rly new!!!!!!! holds up spork my name is pekaboo but u can call me t3h hAwziE oF d00m!!!!!!!! lol…as u can see im very random!!!! thats why i came here, 2 meet random ppl like me _… im [Redacted] years old (im not mature 4 my age tho!!) i like 2 watch furies butfukin w/ my girlfreind (im bi if u dont like it deal w/it) its our favorite pron show!!! bcuz its SOOOO random!!!! shes random 2 of course but i want 2 meet more random ppl =) like they say the more the merrier!!!! lol…neways i hope 2 make alot of freinds here so give me lots of commentses!!!!
DOOOOOMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <--- me bein random again _^ hehe…toodles!!!!"

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Seven_Twenty said:
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My failed attempt of trying to type binary code :p

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Seven_Twenty said:
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furballs_dc said:
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I believe it is trying to communicate

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Moon_Moon said:
I believe it is trying to communicate

You need the key though.

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Thou_Dog said:
Things

Because English is the best language of course, and anyone who doesn't speak it fluently should be exiled to the darkest depths of the internet forever

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titaniachkt said:
Because English is the best language of course, and anyone who doesn't speak it fluently should be exiled to the darkest depths of the internet forever

Less this, more it's not that hard to get decent english translations of stuff. Just need to put in a bit more effort than "copy and paste to google translate, copy and paste the result, done."

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