Topic: Least favorite thing about your fandom?

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No matter what the fandom is, what is your least favorite thing about the fandom you are currently in? (Or recently left)

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No-one really seems to draw macro female pics anymore.

Also dicks on everything.

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Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
The fact that artists will do anything for money.

See Smudge_Proof.

Haha, I rather like him actually. But I more then see your point in that.

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Tangent said:
No-one really seems to draw macro female pics anymore.

Also dicks on everything.

Ah yes, traditional girls are hard to find sometimes.

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Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
The fact that artists will do anything for money.

See Smudge_Proof.

He does that only out of necessity, as far as I konw.

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NotMeNotYou said:
He does that only out of necessity, as far as I konw.

Seriously?

I thought he just liked upsetting people. :I

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Reactionary idiots screaming "Something changed RUINED 5EVER!" at every opportunity.

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Cutedementia said:
Ah yes, traditional girls are hard to find sometimes.

I thought I was rather normal before deciding I liked it here. I often feel like a minority, but the perspective change was probably valuable, even if I don't know it yet.

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Ryuzaki_Izawa said:
Seriously?

I thought he just liked upsetting people. :I

He had quite a bit trouble with meeting ends sometime ago because he lost his job and then just said "fuck it, I'll draw everything to buy some food".

And here we are, no idea if that is still the case, though.

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People who are like "BAAWWWWWWW!!!! THIS FUCKIN' SUCKS LEAVE THE FANDOM FUCKING SHIT SMEARED DICKFACED PUSSYEYED CUNT LICKER!!!!"

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I hate this fandom because:

1. furries
2. pathological liars.
3. bronies
4. people acting like their fursona animal in real life.
5. People complaining about artists not drawing what they like
6. Artists complaining about users not respecting what they like
7. This thread.

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NotMeNotYou said:
He had quite a bit trouble with meeting ends sometime ago because he lost his job and then just said "fuck it, I'll draw everything to buy some food".

And here we are, no idea if that is still the case, though.

I would draw some messed up shit for cash. But my drawing skills are limited to my outlines and thus porn sometimes is meaningless with my art.

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Patchi said:
I hate this fandom because:

1. furries
2. pathological liars.
3. bronies
4. people acting like their fursona animal in real life.
5. People complaining about artists not drawing what they like
6. Artists complaining about users not respecting what they like
7. This thread.

Everyone who has not already met this person, meet Patchi. The most negative user I've found so far. I should make a thread dedicated to all the negative things you say, I could fill a couple pages.

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Cutedementia said:
The most negative user I've found so far.

I would like to thank my idols Ippiki, EDF, Rainbow Dash, Dasa and my future Perth love Riversyde.

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Reasons for hatred:
1. People who try to justify it, like its something other than a fetish.
2. Those weird pronouns for trans people that people will flip shit (just like tumblr) if you don't use the right one (there are like 20).
3. Dramas.
4. Circlejerking with artists and the like.

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Considering anything and everything can be some sort of fetish I can easily say "your statement is invalid" to any naysayer

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1. People who think they are their fursona. You're not a dragon/dog/giant mechanical pencil, you are a human, damn it.

2. People who don't acknowledge the fact that some artists are terrible and worship the earth they walk on.

3. People who are creepy and never stop. Ever.

4. People who hate the mythos of something within the fandom and go apeshit whenever someone draws it. Here's an example of what I mean. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12973393/

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JoeX said:
2. People who don't acknowledge the fact that some artists are terrible and worship the earth they walk on.

This, all this.

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Interesting question. What do I like least about the furry fandom?

I don't mind the creepy fetishes. I don't mind the people who are batshit insane. I don't even really mind the people who seem to live by starting drama. Not directly. These things are symptoms, not causes.

No, what annoys me more than anything else about the furry fandom, is people who feel their fandom is somehow elevated above all others. That it's a law unto itself and isn't comparable with anything else that exists. Perhaps it's the use of 'fandom' as a word because Furry isn't really a fandom at all. It's a sub-culture.
It's not a race or religion, it's not a singular community and it's not a conspiracy or fetish. It's on the same level as Goths, Punks, Hipsters and Hippies. Furries happened to start on the internet and because of that it has a very active community. That doesn't make it any different from all the other sub-cultures out there.
And it's important to realise this because in a sub-culture you can have degrees of involvement. You can have mild inspiration or hardcore fanatics. It's a loose collection of ideas and it changes it's interpretation and you're free to delve in and out of it as you like. That's what it is and also what it should strive to be.
And people who deny this are either deluded or small-minded. People who claim to be part of something different and world-changing just so they can be a pretty unique snowflake without actually doing any effort, or scream about their 'persecution' loudly enough so that no one in their vicinity can ignore it.

God damn.

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elad said:
Interesting question. What do I like least about the furry fandom?

I don't mind the creepy fetishes. I don't mind the people who are batshit insane. I don't even really mind the people who seem to live by starting drama. Not directly. These things are symptoms, not causes.

No, what annoys me more than anything else about the furry fandom, is people who feel their fandom is somehow elevated above all others. That it's a law unto itself and isn't comparable with anything else that exists. Perhaps it's the use of 'fandom' as a word because Furry isn't really a fandom at all. It's a sub-culture.
It's not a race or religion, it's not a singular community and it's not a conspiracy or fetish. It's on the same level as Goths, Punks, Hipsters and Hippies. Furries happened to start on the internet and because of that it has a very active community. That doesn't make it any different from all the other sub-cultures out there.
And it's important to realise this because in a sub-culture you can have degrees of involvement. You can have mild inspiration or hardcore fanatics. It's a loose collection of ideas and it changes it's interpretation and you're free to delve in and out of it as you like. That's what it is and also what it should strive to be.
And people who deny this are either deluded or small-minded. People who claim to be part of something different and world-changing just so they can be a pretty unique snowflake without actually doing any effort, or scream about their 'persecution' loudly enough so that no one in their vicinity can ignore it.

God damn.

yeah man

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elad said:
God damn.

That's impressive. You've eloquently summarized the source of all evils. Maybe next turn your efforts on what causes republicanism? /zing

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When people somehow over-do their fandom. For example, when a person's fursona is named Whitetail Arctic Fox Wolf and has every color on the spectrum on it's appearance. Either that or when they try to be too original with their character

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anon_X said:
That's impressive. You've eloquently summarized the source of all evils. Maybe next turn your efforts on what causes republicanism? /zing

>Now have an urge to start a gun control thread because of the mention of republicans...... OFF TO THE NEW POSTS AREA! With stereotypes in mind!

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^ I really should keep in mind that what I say in jest, you're probably lurking to take it and run with it. But that's why I enjoy your company!

TheHuskyK9 said:
When people somehow over-do their fandom. For example, when a person's fursona is named Whitetail Arctic Fox Wolf and has every color on the spectrum on it's appearance.

So simplicity is key, says the wolf in Victorian dress? Lol jk. <3 that stuff is annoying though- there's a different between a fleshed out and inventive fursona and just gaudily overdoing it.

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TheHuskyK9 said:
When people somehow over-do their fandom. For example, when a person's fursona is named Whitetail Arctic Fox Wolf and has every color on the spectrum on it's appearance.

Oh yeah, bad character design. That's the other thing. I don't think you can stop that though because most people just aren't good at character design.

Cutedementia said:
>Now have an urge to start a gun control thread because of the mention of republicans...... OFF TO THE NEW POSTS AREA! With stereotypes in mind!

As it turns out, e621 has a surprisingly dedicated gun-nut following. Proceed at your peril!

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elad said:
As it turns out, e621 has a surprisingly dedicated gun-nut following. Proceed at your peril!

Yup

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anon_X said:
Yup

You can find some pretty entertaining mlp gun stuff too. Pretty cool provided you're in the fandom to see all the luna/celestia/chrys/discord/trixie themed guns and equipment.

But to keep on topic.

With the mlp fandom in mind, stop obsessing over the villains guys... They aren't that bad ass. (With the exception of the rather interesting Chrysalis but that's not necessarily a character thing if you get what I'm saying.

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Why can't digmon have an MLP sized following? Taito was my first yaoi slash crush. And still my favorite.

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anon_X said:
Why can't digmon have an MLP sized following? Taito was my first yaoi slash crush. And still my favorite.

Easier to sexualize ponies?

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Bu-but all you need to do with digimon peoples are imagine them naked. Hell, thanks to bath scenes, just imagine no steam rofl. I'll admit, the monsters are slightly trickier... But if bulbasaur can have a penis, why not Veemon?

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All fandoms:

1. Lack of perspective. Pigeonholing. The real world exists outside your fandom, so don't make things out to be something they're not. However, one can negatively correlate involvement with perspective--or the difficulty in maintaining perspective--and neither do I want to rain on peoples' parade when they're really involved in their passion.

2. Delusions. More so in life than just fandoms, but they are certainly prominent in fandoms.

Furry:

1. Referring to characters in the first person. If you're going to do this, you better be goddamn soul-bonded or something to your character lol. I can also understand the utility of doing this if you're role-playing or, say, explaining your character's traits as I tended to do for D&D, but still...

2. Exuberance to the point of batshit craziness.

3. The hugbox effect? I knew a particularly assertive and talented person who seemed to even fear groupthink.

4. When the porn side of furry is conveniently glossed over as if it isn't a major draw. My bias makes this difficult to judge, though. How about a holier-than-thou stance to the porn side? It exists. Deal with it, and don't pretend like it's smaller than it really is.

Anime:

1. Overabundance of disagreeable and some poorly written reviews that others somehow find most agreeable. Either that, or I and my criteria for good shows are far removed from the typical anime viewer, even those who like similar shows. Still haven't come to terms with this. I just want to watch lots of anime!

2. Basing recommendations for shows off of genre affinity and similar overarching plotlines, which rarely dictate whether or not I'll like a show. Very misleading and uninformative in my experience.

3. Misuse of genre labels like psychological, horror, and thriller. Not much of an issue or even a pet peeve, just a silly speedbump that shouldn't be.

Obviously, I've abstained from the community at large so far (i.e., "lurker" status).

Video games:

I think this is all but recognized as an actual fandom? Maybe I'm being too broad.

1. Major community perspective issues. Unwarranted whining and bashing, unrealistic expectations, isolation. I could go on a caustic rant about this. Suffice it to say that most games aren't as bad as popular gaming culture make them out to be, and many perceived issues are just inconvenient realities of the medium, genre, or implementation.

I also have bones to pick with overclocking/PC performance culture and news article commentary dwellers, but those seem too irrelevant.

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Quick comment on your gamer thing there- I hate how some gamers say that launch bugs and preinstalled launch DLC are ethical. I paid $60 for this game! If there's DLC, it better be post release content! And some people, like me, don't have internet for their console and thus can't download bug patches. Your launch day customers aren't your beta testers! That's akin to Toyota launching a new car they know to be somewhat broken just to launch it a month or so early. There'd be hell to pay! /rant

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Cutedementia said:
>Now have an urge to start a gun control thread because of the mention of republicans...... OFF TO THE NEW POSTS AREA! With stereotypes in mind!

You could also not start drama, which is one of the things people are listing as things they hate about the fandom.

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Moon_Moon said:
You could also not start drama, which is one of the things people are listing as things they hate about the fandom.

That thread is a separate conversation from this one.

abadbird said:
Referring to characters in the first person. If you're going to do this, you better be goddamn soul-bonded or something to your character lol. I can also understand the utility of doing this if you're role-playing or, say, explaining your character's traits as I tended to do for D&D, but still...

Yup.

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FA seems to get such a bum rap, and I don't understand it. I think it's wonderful. If I'm ever pointlessly aroused, I can just load up any old page, and bam! My testes retract right back into my globules and I have to spend the next four hours coaxing out my little reason to be, and promising I'll never trick it like that again.

It's like a website thats all opposites and frustration. I know that's where all the art must be, but trying to get to it requires wading waist-deep through malice and a dreamlike lack of finality. The bar that says 'search' might as well just say 'go ahead and just show me terrible things now'. According to FA, my fetish is actually excatly the opposite of what I thought I liked, and the site as a whole seems to operate like a cliquey prepschool.

And now I can carry on with the rest of my day.

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anon_X said:
I hate how some gamers say that launch bugs and preinstalled launch DLC are ethical.

TL;DR/Conclusion. I don't view the issue in terms of ethics, but rather as rationalized business decisions. If my textbooks were any indication, businesses across the board are under pressure to raise productivity as never before seen. Reduced quality control is spillover from that pressure.

Long version

Oh, damn. Look what I did... lol

As a rule, I dislike aesthetic DLC and avoid most DLC that I did not get with my initial purchase or that require game replays. I am considering BL2's Season Pass, though, and I think New Vegas Ultimate Edition is a noteworthy exception.

Having said that, I didn't really have an opinion on the subject until I got into ME3:MP and read lots of developer comments in the forums. Then I understood the business model at work. Did you know many game developers work under contract, meaning that their time on a project or even at a studio is finite? If it wasn't for Mass Effect's DLC, Bioware and EA couldn't economically support a decent roster of developers post launch. In turn, Mass Effect would have had less post launch support in other areas such as fewer patches and probably no multiplayer support, balance patches, and free DLC. Thus, DLC helped keep several Bioware employees employed for around another year and a half, and the DLC paid for continued offline and online support. Not a bad deal.

As for preinstalled DLC specifically, it is ideally the first in line of planned DLC and essentially demarcates development of the main title from the side stories and other content. Keep in mind that development of the main story should be finished some weeks before the game is officially launched (may no longer be the case), so developers not particularly involved in quality control and content distribution and related infrastructure need something new to work on. A lot of this is intended to increase employee productivity and flatten or bolster revenue for greater financial fluidity.

I am also of the opinion that many older, nostalgic games with little to no patches or updates probably have as many bugs as newer titles at launch. We mostly ignored them, remained oblivious, or adapted. I have to play the entitlement and rose-tinted glasses cards, but I'm not saying that studios are beyond reproach either. Fast-tracking quality control with product release, resulting in a less refined product (read: bugs), is a legitimate concern. File this under acceptably low risks and minor losses. Certainly, this will happen more often as business models advance.

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1. Dem fetishes
2. Fat guys that get all apeshit cuz someone said yiff in hell and they make a video about it, said video goes viral, and then most people think that furries are fat guys who cant get girls and live in their parents basement and have gay buttsex with each other.
3. People who think they are their fursona. Met one guy who did. Told him to kill himself after a half hour of trying to convince him that he wasn't a dragon.
4. Cub porn
5. Diaper porn getting all in my normal porn searches on e621

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AmericanExistence said:
1. Dem fetishes
2. Fat guys that get all apeshit cuz someone said yiff in hell and they make a video about it, said video goes viral, and then most people think that furries are fat guys who cant get girls and live in their parents basement and have gay buttsex with each other.
3. People who think they are their fursona. Met one guy who did. Told him to kill himself after a half hour of trying to convince him that he wasn't a dragon.
4. Cub porn
5. Diaper porn getting all in my normal porn searches on e621

Blacklist "diaper rating:e".

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AmericanExistence said:
1. Dem fetishes
2. Fat guys that get all apeshit cuz someone said yiff in hell and they make a video about it, said video goes viral, and then most people think that furries are fat guys who cant get girls and live in their parents basement and have gay buttsex with each other.
3. People who think they are their fursona. Met one guy who did. Told him to kill himself after a half hour of trying to convince him that he wasn't a dragon.
4. Cub porn
5. Diaper porn getting all in my normal porn searches on e621

"Furries are someone who people on 4chan find irritating, by virtue of them... Being irritating"

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