Now Xbox had bigger controllers, so don't start on clunky.

I always wanted a hi def wii with more power. and here it is.

The controller? Looove it. shouldn't be for all games (I just can't see a zelda game coming out with it) but for mario games and it will be a whole new platform.. and finally with a more powerful device we can see some decent ports..

My biggest problem is it's only going to support one Tablet at a time (I swear I'm the only person who read this in the specs) but I can't wait to see what people do with it.

Anyone in the nintendo camp agree?

inb4 console war

But yes, I'm looking forward to this console.

qwaszxq said:
inb4 console war

But yes, I'm looking forward to this console.

Darling, anyone who reads the title and doesn't get the colbert reference is not worth it.

Rarity said:
Darling, anyone who reads the title and doesn't get the colbert reference is not worth it.

/me = fail then. :C

I'm a Nintendo fanboy, and so can you!

And then Sony and Microsoft are gonna come along with even bigger consoles. "Shrugs" Welcome to the development cycle, I'll still get it however.

It's definitely interesting. From what I understand, only one tablet BUT more wiimotes can be used at once. So, you can have say a game like Kirby's Canvas curse where one person is drawing with the tablet and the others are using the wiimotes for whatever. It's meant to be for creating a single player experience, and can probably do "split-screen" two player format by sending one to the tablet and one to the TV normally; if it does (and really, it will knowing Nintendo)then no more worry about the screen being cramped from multiple players.

tl:dr; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

...I still have yet to give the 3DS a good try... but they did a great job with the Wii, so I'm hoping this next console will be just as good or better.

Pretending-to-be-Rarity said:
Darling, anyone who reads the title and doesn't get the colbert reference is not worth it.

I was under the impression that this was about a new console, not some silly reference.

qwaszxq said:
...I still have yet to give the 3DS a good try... but they did a great job with the Wii, so I'm hoping this next console will be just as good or better.

I was under the impression that this was about a new console, not some silly reference.

and I was simply under the impression that that was the only thing worth fighting over.

Pfffthahahahah

Consoles.

JustFrame said:
Pfffthahahahah

Consoles.

Rarity said:
and I was simply under the impression that that was the only thing worth fighting over.

Agreed, but console flamewars spark nearly as easy as political and religious ones do, so I figured a topic like this would be a perfect catalyst for it.

Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and avoid it.

You can make your own thread to call out "sony is better"

Anyhow, yes. Nintendo is making a good move.. if this doesn't end up too expensive.

You ain't alone Aurali, I'm extremely excited for this.

2 words: Sega genesis.

All other is non worthy.

Also wii u does look interesting.

Fox2K9 said:
2 words: Sega genesis.

SNES beats that thing in 10 seconds flat!

I don't use consoles.

BranislavDJ said:
SNES beats that thing in 10 seconds flat!

Too bad its non worthy.

Fox2K9 said:
2 words: Sega genesis.

All other is non worthy.

Also wii u does look interesting.

I like the way you think.

I can;t wait to see a Metroid game for this

swamprootwolf said:
I can;t wait to see a Metroid game for this

Please don't let team ninja do the story on this one.

Rarity said:
Please don't let team ninja do the story on this one.

I don't think they'll be authorized to do that, anyhow.

It's just a shame for Nintendo that the PS Vita will be able to do everything the Wii U can with a software update.

Hat said:
It's just a shame for Nintendo that the PS Vita will be able to do everything the Wii U can with a software update.

Yeah but the PS Vita is gonna cost the same price, and then your gonna need a PS 3 as well. (and even then only work for "specialized" games. Technically the PSP already does the main feature, but as I said, only for specialized games.

Besides.. I still wanna see what the hell they are planning with the "Rear touch pad"

The Vita.... looks meh to me, at best. here's to hoping they actually get a decent variety of games.

Rarity said:
Yeah but the PS Vita is gonna cost the same price, and then your gonna need a PS 3 as well. (and even then only work for "specialized" games. Technically the PSP already does the main feature, but as I said, only for specialized games.

Besides.. I still wanna see what the hell they are planning with the "Rear touch pad"

Same price? I'd love to see a source on that.

And who doesn't have a PS3 already?

And why would it need to be limited to only certain games? PSP I can understand because its resolution is a tiny 480x272, but PSV is a very nice 960x544, which goes above standard definition and thus should be compatible with any game. There's no reason at all that prevents it from functioning as a full monitor by itself to do the no TV mode. And for multi platform games, it would be incredibly easy for any developer to port Wii U features across.

The biggest thing is that it's going to be out for a whole year before Wii U, which robs Nintendo of all that would make them special.

In addition to all of that, TV and controller mode does not gel with controller only mode. Whatever functionality you make for having two screens needs to be small, because at any time you need to be ready to swap over to having just one. It's the same kind of poorly thought out gimmick that saw the 3DS get motion sensing that, in order to be used, breaks the 3D effect.

You mean like the Playstation Move robbed the Wiimote of all that was special? Which... it didn't.

Hat said:
And who doesn't have a PS3 already?

*raises hoof*me. 360, and regular Wii here. and a PS2. my Wii cant read discs right now tho. >.<

The new Wii controller looks really stupid to me. I already see people slip it down when moving with that, and I'm pretty sure that thing costs much more than a basic Wiimote.

I think I will stay with my DSi for a long while. I wanted the 3DS but the atrocious battery life made me save up 300$.

123easy said:
You mean like the Playstation Move robbed the Wiimote of all that was special? Which... it didn't.

You like light gun games? I like light gun games. But the only place you could find them for a while was on the Wii because the guns themselves don't work on anything but CRTs. Now with Move, we've got Time Crisis 4 and Overkill, Deadstorm Pirates, The Shoot and soon House of the Dead: Overkill. This availability does indeed rob the Wii of at least something that made it special.

The Wii was initially released in 2006. The Move was initially showcased in 2009, and released 2010. It's now getting... four games for it. Woo. One of which is a port of a Wii game, no less.

It's not stealing anything from the Wii that made it special. It's trying to copy, and failing. Like the PSP was their attempt at copying the handheld market, but it failed miserably. People who own only a PS3 and are die-hard accessorists will be able to enjoy the new movement sensitive... four games... they have, but for the most part it's like the "all new" controls for Lair that they were touting... that completely flopped and they quietly went back to a formula that worked. They're trying to leech a small amount of the Wii's success in motion capture after the market has already been dominated by Nintendo all this time. It's too little, too late, especially with the move forward that is going on.

/nintendo fan that's owned all but the PS3 because it cost too damn much, and then the PSN debacle.

123easy said:
Like the PSP was their attempt at copying the handheld market, but it failed miserably.

The PSP's only failure is not being as successful as the DS. It still has a great library, achieved plenty of sales and after six and a half years it's still getting games released. Your statement is just plain ignorance.

I listed only four games because I was concentrating on one genre. A genre that, for a time, was only readily available on the Wii. Most anything else it had be done on another console and arguably be better with conventional controls, but to have an entire genre to itself, that was special. And that uniqueness is now gone.

In the same way, Wii U won't have anything to call its own exclusively. It'll just be another console.

Rarity said:
Please don't let team ninja do the story on this one.

one can only hope

Hat said:
Same price? I'd love to see a source on that.

And who doesn't have a PS3 already?

And why would it need to be limited to only certain games? PSP I can understand because its resolution is a tiny 480x272, but PSV is a very nice 960x544, which goes above standard definition and thus should be compatible with any game. There's no reason at all that prevents it from functioning as a full monitor by itself to do the no TV mode. And for multi platform games, it would be incredibly easy for any developer to port Wii U features across.

The biggest thing is that it's going to be out for a whole year before Wii U, which robs Nintendo of all that would make them special.

In addition to all of that, TV and controller mode does not gel with controller only mode. Whatever functionality you make for having two screens needs to be small, because at any time you need to be ready to swap over to having just one. It's the same kind of poorly thought out gimmick that saw the 3DS get motion sensing that, in order to be used, breaks the 3D effect.

Dude, there are no ideas coming to market, the Vita is a PSP with a touchscreen (DS) a back touch (wtf?) a second control stick (everything)

On the topic of PS3: I don't care, I don't have one, the games on it are not for me, (I own 2 ps3 games I haven't beaten because the appeal quickly wore off..) the extra features I have no reason to get.

I've always been a nintendo fan, it appeals to me. I can't wait for the Wii U and I don't care at all about the Sony Vita, it's not a console it's a handheld, and honestly I don't use my PSP anyway, what's gonna really make me use a new version of it? I didn't care about the move, I didn't care about the knect, I don't care that you think that the PS-Vita is a full fledged HD console.. I just don't.

In short: Hat go make a PS-Vita thread, I don't care about it.

(Also, just a speculation, but the wii U isn't really gonna be able to hit home at over 300 dollars hat, so nintendo will probably hit just under it.)

Addendum:

Hat said:
In the same way, Wii U won't have anything to call its own exclusively. It'll just be another console.

A wise designer once said it's not the features that make a console, it's the games.

Three words: One. Big. Gimmick.

I'm an Xbox fanboy, but if the new Wii is as hi-def as the 360, then fuck yeah. Maybe they'll finally put HOTD4 on it.

Sony is about as popular as fucking cancer right now.
All there last handheld did was put the "port" in portable.
But the WiiU is when an company comes out with something truly innovative instead of playing motion control catch-up for the past three, Sony and Mircosoft.

the_vole said:
Three words: One. Big. Gimmick.

Yes but the following gimmicks made an industry

Home console
multiplayer
Controllers
handheld
CD storage
motion video
motion control
high definition
touch screen

When people say "gimmick" in the game industry, I read that as, "gamble for success"

Aurali said:
Yes but the following gimmicks made an industry

multiplayer

This one is the one that actually bugs me. I hate multiplayer (online, anyway) precisely because I'm not a "gamer." Yes, I play video games, yes, I've logged more than 200 hours on Oblivion, etc. etc. But I just never take games as seriously as almost everyone who plays online multiplayer is, so whenever I do, I get trashed immediately, soundly, and consistently, with never the chance to improve because I just don't care. I don't mind that games have multiplayer parts, no. I certainly played a lot of Halo with my friends, and Mario Tennis is loads of fun with your buddies. But I'm always sad when a game is put out solely for the multiplayer, because that's a part of that game I will almost never ever take part in.

The best example I can think of (though I can't remember the title just now) is this indie company's new mech fighting game. It looks exactly like what Steel Battalion really should have been, and that game was fucking bat shit goddamn super duper maga awesome[/i] (if only for about three weeks), but it's only multiplayer. Oh well.

Red, Multiplayer was never originally about Halo MP maps where you blow each other's brains out. It was like Mario Bros., where you had two controllers, and played together, aka co-op. It's only when halo came out and the FPS market exploded that the online multiplayer kill everyone bullshit came out that... well, that the basic idea of multiplayer changed. Also when offline co-op or multiplayer died a slow death, which REALLY pissed me off.

123easy said:
Red, Multiplayer was never originally about Halo MP maps where you blow each other's brains out. It was like Mario Bros., where you had two controllers, and played together, aka co-op. It's only when halo came out and the FPS market exploded that the online multiplayer kill everyone bullshit came out that... well, that the basic idea of multiplayer changed. Also when offline co-op or multiplayer died a slow death, which REALLY pissed me off.

No, I know that. I always enjoy co-op, and I loved like Super Smash Bros, Mario Kart, even Mario Party even though they pit you against each other. Things you play with your buddies. Even Halo maps over the LAN with the guys on my dorm hall was cool and all, because we'd be shouting at each other down the hall and it was hilarious to get a sudden kill and hear someone yelling in anguish and swearing (when it's not 12 year olds over vent). But MMO-anything just...bleh. No thanks. Not my style, never will be. I prefer to have fun when I'm playing games, not waggle my digital dick about achievements and kill ratios.

Then you don't hate multiplayer, just the FPS aggressive variant. :D

I'm thinking of getting into WoW, but i've played it for an hour and it was just so boring, where as I was hooked after my second match of CoD4. Been shittin' on kids ever since. But that new Wii better be HD and it better fucking have a HOTD anthology, or I'll go to Nintendo hq and turn it into a real life HOTD.

...Dare I ask- HOTD? Also, WoW is fun as a social game, not as something you want to get into. Trust me, retired WoWtard here. It's basically a second job that you pay to work for.

123easy said:
...Dare I ask- HOTD? Also, WoW is fun as a social game, not as something you want to get into. Trust me, retired WoWtard here. It's basically a second job that you pay to work for.

I read Cracked's article on how WoW is like a second life, as in having to farm gold(work a day job) just to fund the fun shit(raids and whatnot). And HOTD stands for House of The Dead, the greatest rail shooter series ever.

ahh, of course. Sorry, just horrible with acronyms unless I've been using them myself. And WoW really is a second life.

It's fun if you have friends to play it with. And it doesn't have to be a job if you don't heavily get into endgame stuff. Nothing's wrong about getting on for a couple hours a day casually doing some quests and fishing or something (well, I guess fishing IS a job in itself).

So's doing quests. :P Most are either fetch quests (get me 10 ratpor eggs!) or kill quests (Kill 40 dragonkin!), with the rare few being travel quests (go to X) to move you along to the next level-appropraite zone, or to go and locate someone/something and either kill it, rescue it, or return with it. All of them are pretty jobbish. Again though, it's more of a social game than a game game. Play it to be with riends and do random stuff together, and it's immensely more enjoyable.

None of my friends are into WoW, we're all CoD slobs who care about K/D, except one who ragequit Black Ops because he got dropshotted with a rapid-fire Baby K 3 times in a row. Now he's pretty much just a Gear queer.

Ultima_Weapon said:
None of my friends are into WoW, we're all CoD slobs who care about K/D, except one who ragequit Black Ops because he got dropshotted with a rapid-fire Baby K 3 times in a row. Now he's pretty much just a Gear queer.

I don't even know what any of that means o.o

RedOctober said:
I don't even know what any of that means o.o

WoW = World of Whorecraft
CoD slob = Call of Duty fanboy
K/D = Kill/Death ratio
Ragequit = U mad bro?
Black ops = Call of Duty: Black Ops
Dropshot = A bitch move done by bitches and special-needs children
Rapid-fire Baby K = AK-74u with rapid-fire attachment
Gear queer = Gears of War fanboy
We're = multiple people
A = single item
Pretty = no uggos
much = the amount of bacon strips you need
One = there can be only
Friends = if you're nice to them, they give you bacon strips.

dropshot = attacking from above while falling on them? your definition is rather subjective and doesn't explain what it means.

123easy said:
dropshot = attacking from above while falling on them? your definition is rather subjective and doesn't explain what it means.

Dropshotting is when you go from a standing position to prone while firing. It's done by people who can't accurately shoot someone while standing, as they'd be killed first due to a lack of skill, so they drop to their pussies and spray while their opponent has to re-adjust his aim, which there usually isn't enough time for him to do.

You mean... they do the smart thing and drop down to balance their gun on the ground to fire more accurately, and present a smaller profile to hit? >_> Wow, gotta love how the real life tactic is seen as a horrible and scorned maneuver...

123easy said:
You mean... they do the smart thing and drop down to balance their gun on the ground to fire more accurately, and present a smaller profile to hit? >_> Wow, gotta love how the real life tactic is seen as a horrible and scorned maneuver...

It doesn't help your aim unless you're hipfiring, which most people don't do. People usually dropshot while aiming down their sights, which is exactly the same as when standing, but it buys you a few extra seconds to not suck.

Ultima_Weapon said:
WoW = World of Whorecraft
CoD slob = Call of Duty fanboy
K/D = Kill/Death ratio
Ragequit = U mad bro?
Black ops = Call of Duty: Black Ops
Dropshot = A bitch move done by bitches and special-needs children
Rapid-fire Baby K = AK-74u with rapid-fire attachment
Gear queer = Gears of War fanboy
We're = multiple people
A = single item
Pretty = no uggos
much = the amount of bacon strips you need
One = there can be only
Friends = if you're nice to them, they give you bacon strips.

Rofl, well. You were thorough, sort of. Some of those definitions are defined in terms of other "jargon," but I get the picture.

My friends don't give me bacon :-(

Ultima_Weapon said:
Dropshotting is when you go from a standing position to prone while firing. It's done by people who can't accurately shoot someone while standing, as they'd be killed first due to a lack of skill, so they drop to their pussies and spray while their opponent has to re-adjust his aim, which there usually isn't enough time for him to do.

That, or it's done by people who prefer winning and so use superior tactics to take advantage of this aim adjustment lag? I'm sorry, but if I'm actually shooting at someone who is returning fire, I'd rather do this and be called a "pussy" than be dead. The point is to kill and not be killed, right? so...it's only "pussy" because you don't do it and someone else does?

RedOctober said:
That, or it's done by people who prefer winning and so use superior tactics to take advantage of this aim adjustment lag? I'm sorry, but if I'm actually shooting at someone who is returning fire, I'd rather do this and be called a "pussy" than be dead. The point is to kill and not be killed, right? so...it's only "pussy" because you don't do it and someone else does?

Prefer winning? Pfft, when people start dropshotting me, I go tryhard, and people scream and cry. I've gotten so good at CoD to the point that it's boring for me to give it my all, and I dick around a lot while going for the win. If you play Black Ops and check someone's stats, if their favorite weapon is the Baby K, 90% of the time they're garbage who have to dropshot because they can't be accurate within 1 second, so they have to try and buy a couple more.

I just aim towards the ground as they drop, which gives me an easy headshot and a quicker kill.

ROFL. You "go tryhard?" I'm sorry dude, but you sound like you take this way too seriously. Which is exactly what I was talking about lol.

RedOctober said:
ROFL. You "go tryhard?" I'm sorry dude, but you sound like you take this way too seriously. Which is exactly what I was talking about lol.

Exactly, if you're going to be good at something, it has to be taken seriously to get better at it. I never cared about being good in Halo, which is why I suck at Halo.

Ultima_Weapon said:
Exactly, if you're going to be good at something, it has to be taken seriously to get better at it. I never cared about being good in Halo, which is why I suck at Halo.

No, you're right about having to take it seriously. I just don't care enough to be good at such games to ever, ever want to deal with the "hardcore gamefags" or whatever. It's one thing to take it seriously, it's another thing to shun, ridicule, and berate someone who isn't as good at it as you (I'm using the general "you," not directly accusing you, Ultima, of doing this) are. I once found a kickass Tron lightcycle game. I tried to play multiplayer, but got booted from every room because I didn't know the rules yet, even though there were no rules posted anywhere. Instead of saying "dude, here's what you're violating," they all just went "n0000000bffaaaggggg" and booted. It's that mentality that drives me away from ever playing video games with people that aren't my close friends. Ever. Ever.

Ever. I just want to be clear on how much that shit pisses me off, 'cause it's a lot.

Hate it too. -.-; it' why I don't play DotA anymore (Though I do play LoL).

That's why I don't play Tron games, because people associate Tron with Daft Punk, and Daft Punk is serious business. I generally don't open my mouth to people in CoD games unless they start talking shit about me being a tryhard just because I smeared them. And when I do have to open my mouth, very hurtful and suicide-causing phrases fly forth, like razors flying into an fat emo kid's wrists.

Razors flying into a fat kid's wrists doesn't cause suicide- too much blubber, and the wounds seal right up. :P

Ultima_Weapon said:
That's why I don't play Tron games, because people associate Tron with Daft Punk, and Daft Punk is serious business. I generally don't open my mouth to people in CoD games unless they start talking shit about me being a tryhard just because I smeared them. And when I do have to open my mouth, very hurtful and suicide-causing phrases fly forth, like razors flying into an fat emo kid's wrists.

Lol. I don't associate Tron with Daft Punk, but I love them both. But the point is, I've encountered this mentality in every online multiplayer I've ever played. Not just that one. It's everywhere, and I hate it.

It really is, and it all started with arcade gamers, really. The not-so-friendly rivalries between two people trying for a high score on Twin Galaxies' leaderboards. combine that with the GIFT, and you get it a thousand times worse. -.-;

And the Tron = Daft Punk thig is because they did the soundtrack for the Tron Legacy movie.

123easy said:
And the Tron = Daft Punk thig is because they did the soundtrack for the Tron Legacy movie.

Oh yeah, I know they did. And had a cameo in it. I still don't associate the two lol. Not that I don't see the association, just that they aren't lumped together in my mind.

The only time i'll shit talk someone with little provocation is in a co-op game like Nazi Zombies. If the game requires teamwork, and you're being a selfish whore, i'll tell you to go suck some star-spangled walrus dick.

Ultima_Weapon said:
The only time i'll shit talk someone with little provocation is in a co-op game like Nazi Zombies. If the game requires teamwork, and you're being a selfish whore, i'll tell you to go suck some star-spangled walrus dick.

XDDD I find it's worst in co-op shit, though, because if you're just starting to learn the ropes everyone gets pissed at you for fucking up their scores because you just don't have the experience that they once also did not have. Meh. I've said all I have to say on this lol. I hate online multiplayer and will never buy a game that has only that, and will never pay for the service on other games, or even play it at all. :p

I just get pissed when people know the game, and have been playing almost as long as I have or even longer, and still manage to fuck us all over and get the entire team killed.

Sargent_D said:
Sony is about as popular as fucking cancer right now.
All there last handheld did was put the "port" in portable.
But the WiiU is when an company comes out with something truly innovative instead of playing motion control catch-up for the past three, Sony and Mircosoft.

I wouldn't say it's "truly innovative" really. All Nintendo did was look at iphone and facebook games, then looked in their pockets and said "Hey! They stole all our casualgamer money!" So they (Nintendo) stuck a big'ol iphone style touchscreen on the controller as if to say "Eh? Eh? You can play angry biiiirds on it!". The ability to play games on the touchscreen controller without use of the tv makes their targeting this casual mobile-gaming audience more obvious. I don't think most of said audience play those games when they're not, say, waiting in line somewhere but I'm not sure Nintendo has realized this.

Last I heard no one really knows what the exact specs on the system are or what it'll be priced, but most estimates I saw on the controller by itself put it at around $100.
Nonetheless the Wii U *might* lend itself to more innovative gameplay, but personally if such innovation comes I doubt it'll be in a first-party title. Seems to me the turning point really came when the Gamecube - which Nintendo made a point to target core gamers with, got it's ass handed to it by the DVD playing PS2 and online powerhouse Xbox. Since then with games, handhelds and consoles Nintendo has been dedicated to playing it safe with gimmicks/trying to make products that appeal to the most people rather than being of the highest quality. Basically Nintendo has lost the fairly stringent commitment to quality and innovation that helped them resurrect the video game industry in the 80s, and that's a shame.

As for people being assholes in online games, yeah that's part of the reason why I've had L4D one and two since December and have barely touched either. To say nothing of TF2 which I've had for years. Wish the E6 server would come back up lol. I've found the zombie mod for CSS to be excellent though.

PS/Edit- Response number 69 WOOHOOO!

I'm just pissed that Hudson Entertainment closed in February, Which means no new Bloody Roar, one of the best fighting games ever. They even had plans to make Bloody Roar 5.

Offline multiplayer hasn't died, it just never was big on the xbox, and sony pushed for online. Nintendo is still big on that. In fact it's what keeps system's like the wii alive.

If you like shmup(shoot 'em up) games(like Raiden), buy Mushihime-sama Futari for the 360. It's a pretty beast game.

Rarity said:
Offline multiplayer hasn't died, it just never was big on the xbox, and sony pushed for online. Nintendo is still big on that. In fact it's what keeps system's like the wii alive.

@Ratty

I don't think nintendo didn't care about quality, it's that sony cared so much that they risked their casual and family user bases on a console so far out of a family's price range, (Ever try playing a ps3 on a non high def screen? It's hard), that the casual place had to flood to nintendo.

Nintendo just didn't see a need for high power at the risk of it's consumers when it came to the wii, all of nintendo's games were high quality, it's third party support, however, was total shit. The good 3rd parties wanted high def and more power to work with, so they made for the ps3 and xbox.

Now that parts are cheap enough for nintendo to put out a competitive console, they are going to. I'm not gonna say I'm mad about having to buy two consoles this generation, I got my wii when it first came out, and I wouldn't have been able to afford a PS3 until NOW. So it means I didn't miss out on this generation.

Ultima_Weapon said:
If you like shmup(shoot 'em up) games(like Raiden), buy Mushihime-sama Futari for the 360. It's a pretty beast game.

Only if you like games like Donpachi, NOT Raiden. Raiden is a wuss compared to Mushihime-sama or Donpachi.