So lets say there was a genetic breakthrough, a scientific leap where it suddenly became possible for a human to have his or her genetics crossed with an animal of his or her choosing and become an anthromorphic being... Literally become what we see in pics here, would you?

I would... Though im sure many would shun me and look at me as a freak, I doubt the human race would embrace a new hybrid race with open arms however I think it would be great to actually undergo such a change regardless of haters to our kind. Besides im sure a wolf anthro like myself would be capable of defending herself from whatever human that posed as a threat.

But what about the rest of you? Would you embrace such opportunity? And what would you be?

Oh god, I hate fur to be quite honest, though that would be the only thing really stopping me. I've always had a softer spot for skin and the human form, so I would only really consider it if I could go back to being human.

Switching between furry and human form would be awesome. If it was a one-way thing, I wouldn't go there.

I'd be interested, but I would also be unlikely to take that plunge unless it was reversible. Or at the very least, I would be unlikely to be among the first to take that plunge.

Right now I think society would have a hard time dealing with such technology. Social norms and views being what they are, I think becoming anthropomorphic would be a little like someone tattooing homosexual artwork to their forehead, surrounded by a rainbow. I think nobody would see the transformation as a fashion statement or as rebellious or badass. I think it would be viewed as a sexual statement, and I don't think that will ever be considered appropriate in public.

Ironically, our only hope to the contrary would probably be fiction, like -- and I truly shudder at the thought -- Twilight. I think I need a shower.

Riversyde said:
Switching between furry and human form would be awesome. If it was a one-way thing, I wouldn't go there.

Basically this.

I never liked the way I looked much anyway, so I think I'd consider it for sure even if it was irreversible.

Wondertwin powers activate!
Shape of a Dog cock with knot <3

Riversyde said:
Switching between furry and human form would be awesome. If it was a one-way thing, I wouldn't go there.

I would do it as long as it is possible to control how much i change. id want to keep my human face and hands but would like the tail and ears. my arms and legs are already rather hairy so the crossover to fur wouldn't be a big deal for me.
PS if anyone pulls off the change i know a guy who wants a cat-girl to take care of him.

No. I want to be a cyborg, not a mutant.

Also, imagine how much of a pain in the ass showering would be, and how much it would SMELL like ass during and afterwards.

Fuck to the yeah.

If we could change back and forth like in Bloody Roar, sure. Otherwise, I'd just want wings, and nothing else.

null0010 said:
No. I want to be a cyborg, not a mutant.

Also, imagine how much of a pain in the ass showering would be, and how much it would SMELL like ass during and afterwards.

^^That^^.

Smelling like wet $animal could be ameliorated by some sort of giant hair (well, fur...) dryer, though.

Hmmm... Prehensile cybernetic tail..

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What would I be? Vaguely leonine, of course...
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Fuck mutants, long live cyborgs.

I know if I could I'd leap at the chance to get my arms replaced, at least, and my head would probably be packed to the gills with cyberware.

I've answered this question enough for a life time

100% YES! A real life furry would be amazing. I would totally do this, seeing as humans are disgusting creatures.

Jjiped said:
100% YES! A real life furry would be amazing. I would totally do this, seeing as humans are disgusting creatures.

What makes you think your anthro self would look any better?

If it was like lycanthropy, only using nanotechnology, rather than a virus, and took effect at will, then yes, I'd be a white tiger. Also it might help to include some armor in the programing, in case of trolls with guns.

ExplosiveBlaziken said:
Fuck mutants, long live cyborgs.

I know if I could I'd leap at the chance to get my arms replaced, at least, and my head would probably be packed to the gills with cyberware.

Thank goodness we still have users with some sense.

ExplosiveBlaziken said:
Fuck mutants, long live cyborgs.

I know if I could I'd leap at the chance to get my arms replaced, at least, and my head would probably be packed to the gills with cyberware.

I couldn't do it. Too much maintenance, and possible rust if you can't afford gold. Plus, circuitry gets hot, and I already have a heat allergy.

I'd much rather be completely animal, in appearance at least. I think anthropomorphic animals would look creepy in real life.

am529 said:
I'd much rather be completely animal, in appearance at least. I think anthropomorphic animals would look creepy in real life.

Riversyde said:
Switching between furry and human form would be awesome. If it was a one-way thing, I wouldn't go there.

Both of you make a decent point, though i for one would think if it was reversible, it'd be cool. always wondered what it would be like to have fur an a tail.. though to be honest id prefer a genetic break though that gave you shifting ability's, but that could get messy too lol

I would if I could also change my sex, otherwise no. I wouldn't mind being a male wolf anthro or something...I would probably want to be able to change back though, because I'd get bored having a canine penis, and my mate already feels awkward around anything related to animal genitals.

It depends entirely on how long and painful and generally unpleasant the process is. If its some kind of crazy magic step into the chamber and ten second later its a new you then certainly. Probably even if its a one way thing. But if its a solid two years of on-and-off treatments and possibly surgery plus another four years recovery time, then I would probably not be so willing.

If it's some sort of crazy gene therapy then presumably there'd be no surgery involved.

arguably, if its some kind of crazy gene therapy, then it would either require surgery of some measure to get done fast, or take over a decade for the change to finish. Again, if it used something that does not coincide with science as I know it that allows for reasonably quick non-surgery options then I would almost certainly go ahead. But it would take a hell of a lot more than just the physical changes to go through half a decade for that. Somewhere between those two marks is where I draw the line. I just don't know exactly where it is.

I think if we're talking about some kind of treatment that can turn you into a fully functional anthromorph during your lifetime (as opposed to in vitro which is of course also very difficult but seems possible with modern methods and enough experimentation and evil fetus science) we're implicitly talking about some kind of procedure that does not currently exist in modern medicine or science, even gender reassignment surgery which is much better understood and is in many ways easier is in a primitive state, leaving patients mostly a butchered hackjob with organs that have little actual function. Creating a functional prehensile tail or canine-like ears is by comparison even more difficult.

Fleabaths.

No.

Sarvix said:
I've always had a softer spot for skin and the human form

Wow, I didn't know Hannibal Lecter was trolling the e621 forums.

I might, but it would be a very difficult transition going straight from a mouth to a beak. If I decided I no longer wish to talk, certainly. However as with anyone undergoing this procedure you had better be ready to fight, as there will be many, many people who will despise you, even though your choice doesn't affect their lives whatsoever. Just like everything else.
Our species is so pathetic.

ScarecrowJack said:
Our species is so pathetic.

Watch out, we gotta angsty teenager over here!

Furmillionaire said:
Watch out, we gotta angsty teenager over here!

He's whining pre-emptively.

That isn't angst. That's being a complete bitch.

Basically yes, I am just being a bitch.

ScarecrowJack said:
Basically yes, I am just being a bitch.

Well then I'll be a bitch with you, as I don't care for the human race either. All we have going for us is intelligence and opposable thumbs.

Jjiped said:
I don't care for the human race either. All we have going for us is intelligence and opposable thumbs.

Carl Sagan said:
In our tenure on this planet we've accumulated dangerous evolutionary baggage — propensities for aggression and ritual, submission to leaders, hostility to outsiders — all of which puts our survival in some doubt. But we've also acquired compassion for others, love for our children and desire to learn from history and experience, and a great soaring passionate intelligence — the clear tools for our continued survival and prosperity.

Jean-Luc Picard said:
Oh, I know Hamlet. And what he might say with irony, I say with conviction: 'What a piece of work is man! How noble in reason! How infinite in faculty! In form, in moving, how express and admirable! In action, how like an angel! In apprehension, how like a god!'

It ain't a perfect sentient species but it's the only one we've got. And besides which all of the compassionate, tolerant, enlightened everyone-is-bisexual higher lifeforms you can imagine that are better than us have come from our own imagination, surely that means we have the potential to be whatever we want to be.

ikdind said:

Right now I think society would have a hard time dealing with such technology. Social norms and views being what they are, I think becoming anthropomorphic would be a little like someone tattooing homosexual artwork to their forehead, surrounded by a rainbow. I think nobody would see the transformation as a fashion statement or as rebellious or badass. I think it would be viewed as a sexual statement, and I don't think that will ever be considered appropriate in public.

Seriously? Interest in said anthropomorphism isn't necessarily an interest in the sexual implications of such a transformation. 'Furry' isn't a sexual orientation.

Wolfnacht said:
Seriously? Interest in said anthropomorphism isn't necessarily an interest in the sexual implications of such a transformation. 'Furry' isn't a sexual orientation.

Try wearing a fursuit in public, then, on an everyday basis. See what people think of you.

Maybe the analogy is incorrect, but I think the degree of social castigation would be about on par.

Furry isnt a sexual orientation says the guy on the furry porn site.

ikdind said:
Try wearing a fursuit in public, then, on an everyday basis. See what people think of you.

Maybe the analogy is incorrect, but I think the degree of social castigation would be about on par.

I guess it depends on whether you're a professional mascot then. :p

Yeah i'm going to have to say no. If i had to make the choice of radically changing my physical self i would base it solely on if it can make me live longer and make my body far more durable to a number of things. That being said i would rather have a mechanical body over an organic, i find the idea of being at least 80% machine to be very appealing.

ikdind said:
Try wearing a fursuit in public, then, on an everyday basis. See what people think of you.

Maybe the analogy is incorrect, but I think the degree of social castigation would be about on par.

Whatever they might think of me, it wouldn't be the same as what they would think of me if I was/became a real live human-animal hybrid. Which is precisely my point. It would cease to be a mere fetish/fantasy if there were actual sentient beings of the hirsute variety that had interests in life beyond the realm of sex.

Furmillionaire said:
Furry isnt a sexual orientation says the guy on the furry porn site.

Yo dawg it's not a furry porn site. It's a general imageboard that happens to have a shitload of furry porn on it.

Yeah...

Furmillionaire said:
Furry isnt a sexual orientation says the guy on the furry porn site.

The term "furry" has nothing to do with sexuality, and those that think otherwise are just perpetrating the false notion that furries are people who have sex in fursuits. I cannot tell you how annoying/retarded that notion is.

So, no, it's not a sexual orientation. It's not like gay, straight, bi, etc. Those who tell you otherwise are ignorant and stupid. "Furry" is a fandom involving anthropomorphic characters and that's that.

Sex is something a majority of the population is interested in; it's not an activity limited to furries.

Furmillionaire said:
It ain't a perfect sentient species but it's the only one we've got. And besides which all of the compassionate, tolerant, enlightened everyone-is-bisexual higher lifeforms you can imagine that are better than us have come from our own imagination, surely that means we have the potential to be whatever we want to be.

I've always hoped that this was the case, that if we truly aspire to it, we can become it. But the problem is how so many are still stuck in primitive times long before such a concept and refuse to move on, and instead lash out at the open-minded in that sense.

Hehehe, those same whackos haven't yet found out about us, though. I consider that an example of great fortune.

Lyokira said:
I guess it depends on whether you're a professional mascot then. :p

Lolled ^_^

ikdind said:
Try wearing a fursuit in public, then, on an everyday basis. See what people think of you.

Maybe the analogy is incorrect, but I think the degree of social castigation would be about on par.

I beg to differ, really being something and merely dressing as something are quite different and though actually being anthropomorphic would bring complications in society blending for certain, I strongly feel that an actual being would bring more shock and awe over the "wow what loser keeps putting that fursuit on and parading around like they are the real deal?"

But this is merely my assumption and regardless of criticism or pain from the procedure would undergo said change happily and with pride. And as for mouth runners, well I bet a 5 foot 6, 130lb female wolf anthro with fangs bared and growling right in your face would shut them up rather quickly.

Ivory_Wolf said:
So lets say there was a genetic breakthrough, a scientific leap where it suddenly became possible for a human to have his or her genetics crossed with an animal of his or her choosing and become an anthromorphic being... Literally become what we see in pics here, would you?

I would... Though im sure many would shun me and look at me as a freak, I doubt the human race would embrace a new hybrid race with open arms however I think it would be great to actually undergo such a change regardless of haters to our kind. Besides im sure a wolf anthro like myself would be capable of defending herself from whatever human that posed as a threat.

But what about the rest of you? Would you embrace such opportunity? And what would you be?

Depends. Depends on the method, side-effects, and duration. In an Alistair Reynolds novel, Prefect, they have the tech to effect temporary genetic changes like this, so that they can have zebra fur for a week and the like. I would want that, first. But I'm so disappointed in my baseline human existence, I would almost definitely go for it.

Mostly, though, I just want cybernetic implants.

Edit: TIL that we can't make text underlined

I would stay human. Though I have to ask, do some people realy hate being human enough to want to change what they are?

s1mpleone said:
I would stay human. Though I have to ask, do some people realy hate being human enough to want to change what they are?

I don't hate it. It just disappoints me. I want to be a cyborg.

I just though of this. If we were to become real life furries, the fandom would be gone!

Being a cyborg would be awesome. <3

Heell no. I don't want to smell like wet dog every time I take a shower. Not to mention sticking an animal head on a human body would look beyond creepy, similar to an uncanny valley effect.

Also, in response to OP, a pussy turned into a wolf is just a pussy wolf.

Jjiped said:
I just though of this. If we were to become real life furries, the fandom would be gone!

Or it would explode bigger than the nascar franchise cuz we would actually be living it...

Spess_Muhreen said:
Heell no. I don't want to smell like wet dog every time I take a shower. Not to mention sticking an animal head on a human body would look beyond creepy, similar to an uncanny valley effect.

Also, in response to OP, a pussy turned into a wolf is just a pussy wolf.

Doubtful a "pussy" would have what it takes to get the change anyway... This isnt like buying pokemon cards. And the wet dog smell doesnt always happen, ive had several dogs and with proper maintenance the smell doesnt really occur.

I would much rather join the furries' world than bring them into mine.

Nope. Humans are on top for a reason.

mosh_grizzly said:
Nope. Humans are on top for a reason.

I blame overpopulation and thumbs... Cuz most of mother natures creatures could whoop our butts without the advantages our hands created over time. If we couldnt craft the first spears and other melee weapons of ancient history we would still be getting eaten alive on a regular basis by carnivores.

Ivory_Wolf said:
I blame overpopulation and thumbs... Cuz most of mother natures creatures could whoop our butts without the advantages our hands created over time. If we couldnt craft the first spears and other melee weapons of ancient history we would still be getting eaten alive on a regular basis by carnivores.

Yeah, and that's why we're the best animal there is... We don't have spines or poisonous spit or huge claws or any other rubbish like that, and we don't need em, we're on top because we're smarter, and we're better, and we made mother nature our bitch. That's what being a superior species is, not the silly arms race of spikes and paralysing agents etc that other animals engage in. We're lords over this world, someday soon we'll be so adept we'll practically be gods over it. Every other species is just so much chaff.

Why is there so much romanticism about nature anyway? It's brutal and unfair and random, not to mention that it's supremely inefficient. We're better than it. Did you know it's only been about 10 thousand years since the first bow and arrow were created? As I remember it's only been about 150 thousand since we could first be considered higher life. 'mother nature' has had billions of years and it hasn't some close to the complexity and power we've developed in that short timeframe. We're better than evolution, better than natural selection. May our reign last forever.

This thread has gone full retard.

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Furmillionaire said:
Why is there so much romanticism about nature anyway? It's brutal and unfair and random, not to mention that it's supremely inefficient. We're better than it. Did you know it's only been about 10 thousand years since the first bow and arrow were created? As I remember it's only been about 150 thousand since we could first be considered higher life. 'mother nature' has had billions of years and it hasn't some close to the complexity and power we've developed in that short timeframe. We're better than evolution, better than natural selection. May our reign last forever.

Yes, it can be cruel and harsh, but it is just awesome, undeniably. And even though we've only been around for so long, look what we've done to this earth. We are in the process of destroying it, all because we want what we want when we want it. Humanity is disgusting.

The earth will get along just fine no matter what we do to it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

Actually there are organisms that are almost identical in behavior to the human race and are everywhere... Its called viruses. The human race is a self aware virus.

all living creatures seem to build a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment and nature, how ever cruel it may be, does a decent job keeping everything in balance, both predator and prey, plant and animal.

the human race, like a virus, starts in one area and multiplies and multiplies, consuming natural resourses until that area has nothing left and then it spreads to a new area and multiplies and consumes.

Ivory_Wolf said:
Actually there are organisms that are almost identical in behavior to the human race and are everywhere... Its called viruses. The human race is a self aware virus.

all living creatures seem to build a natural equilibrium with its surrounding environment and nature, how ever cruel it may be, does a decent job keeping everything in balance, both predator and prey, plant and animal.

the human race, like a virus, starts in one area and multiplies and multiplies, consuming natural resourses until that area has nothing left and then it spreads to a new area and multiplies and consumes.

Or we can just take this familiar quote...

Agent Smith said:
I'd like to share a revelation I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet. You are a plague, and we … are the cure.

Furmillionaire said:
Yeah, and that's why we're the best animal there is... We don't have spines[/b] or poisonous spit [...]

Excuse me? No spines? Well fuck.

Edit: OOHHHHHHH! YOU mean like we don't have spiny protrusions, not spines like the spines we actually have, as in the spinal column. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh. For a moment I thought you were pretty much an idiot.

I hate it when people mindlessly regurgitate that "humans are as as Virus" line. I'm reasonably certain that, no, Humanity is NOT the only kind of life more advanced than a virus that can utterly destroy its environment and overpopulate itself. If I recall, Deer have a tendency to overpopulate themselves, which is part of the reason why we HAVE deer hunting season. I believe either goats or a type of sheep don't just eat the top of the grass, but pull it out by the roots, potentially devastating an area if they aren't forced to leave. Hell, there are species of PLANT that will grow over other kinds of plants in the area to make sure that only it gets sunlight, killing the undergrowth which then decays and gives nutrients to the plant that killed it.

also, you are citing a sci-fi movie. Specifically a computer program that is trying to get under a persons skin. A computer program that, if you count the sequels, and I know many people don't, BECOMES a literal computer virus.

Jjiped said:
Yes, it can be cruel and harsh, but it is just awesome, undeniably. And even though we've only been around for so long, look what we've done to this earth. We are in the process of destroying it, all because we want what we want when we want it. Humanity is disgusting.

Awesome how? Give me automation, electronics, miniaturisation etc anyday over some waterfalls. Besides, every animal destroys what it can to get what it wants, we're hardly the only ones. Dolphins are rapist murderers, apes kill for no reason too, we're no different in that sense.

And yes we've all seen the Matrix, or as Cracked accurately calls it 'I FLIPPED THROUGH A PHILOSOPHY BOOK ONCE'. The only difference between us and any other animal that tries to destroy its environment and is balanced out by nature is that we're better at it.

And err yeah I meant like a porcurpine, whoops.

I'll tell you the difference between us and mammals, and all other animals, they scrabble around to survive in their environment while we adapt the environment to suit us. We have art, literature, science. I won't say all other species are here for us but I will say that I can't see the point in such a virgin world as planet Earth without a sentient species to appreciate it. We're the only species who even know what a planet is. They say that prehistoric man could fit the sum of all his knowledge onto a post card (if he could write which he couldnt), for animals it's even less. Compare that with the amount that we know, the entire internet can hardly hold it in. Millions of books and there are still things unwritten about. Understanding is the only useful metric by which to measure superiority.

I'm ashamed to be sharing the enviroment with all the stupid plants animals and people but I've got very little choice in it.

Mechnical augmentations, bioreliance reduction, and a nice space bubble; yeah I want to be a satalite, but not shiney or humanoid.

Valkenheim said:
I hate it when people mindlessly regurgitate that "humans are as as Virus" line. I'm reasonably certain that, no, Humanity is NOT the only kind of life more advanced than a virus that can utterly destroy its environment and overpopulate itself. If I recall, Deer have a tendency to overpopulate themselves, which is part of the reason why we HAVE deer hunting season. I believe either goats or a type of sheep don't just eat the top of the grass, but pull it out by the roots, potentially devastating an area if they aren't forced to leave. Hell, there are species of PLANT that will grow over other kinds of plants in the area to make sure that only it gets sunlight, killing the undergrowth which then decays and gives nutrients to the plant that killed it.

also, you are citing a sci-fi movie. Specifically a computer program that is trying to get under a persons skin. A computer program that, if you count the sequels, and I know many people don't, BECOMES a literal computer virus.

Its true, deer and other creatures have population control issues, but I bet if humans hadnt fucked with the ecosystem and destroyed the balance of things by overhunting or excavating land, etc. then nature would still be doing what it has done a damn good job of for billions of years prior to our arrogance and thats regulating the balance in its own way.

And no I was not intentionally quoting a movie, just speaking from observation... Even if the smith fellow put it better lol.

Brotip: nature's idea of 'regulating the balance' results in animals going extinct pretty often too, but I guess it's okay when that happens because 'it's nature'. It's not some sentient system that can predict problems and avoid them, it's just reactive, like, if there are too many deer they eat all the grasses and the rare regional grasses go extinct and then the deer starve until there are not that many left again. That's regulation of a sort sure but it's not exactly as nice and romantic as hippies like to think it is.

Furmillionaire said:
Brotip: nature's idea of 'regulating the balance' results in animals going extinct pretty often too, but I guess it's okay when that happens because 'it's nature'. It's not some sentient system that can predict problems and avoid them, it's just reactive, like, if there are too many deer they eat all the grasses and the rare regional grasses go extinct and then the deer starve until there are not that many left again. That's regulation of a sort sure but it's not exactly as nice and romantic as hippies like to think it is.

Additional brotip:
In that regard it's also nearly impossible for mankind to screw up the earth until it's completely 100% incompatable with life as we know it, save for somehow destabilixing Earth's orbit to send it crashing into the sun or some similar earth-destructive capability. Whatever nukes or bioweaponary we have developed is certainly insufficient to do the job completely.

Furmillionaire said:
Brotip: nature's idea of 'regulating the balance' results in animals going extinct pretty often too, but I guess it's okay when that happens because 'it's nature'. It's not some sentient system that can predict problems and avoid them, it's just reactive, like, if there are too many deer they eat all the grasses and the rare regional grasses go extinct and then the deer starve until there are not that many left again. That's regulation of a sort sure but it's not exactly as nice and romantic as hippies like to think it is.

True... It would be blatant naivity to say nature had a subtle and kind way of handling the balance... But its always seemed to work til we came along. I just think we have developed far more power than we should have without the respect to wield it properly.

Ivory_Wolf said:
True... It would be blatant naivity to say nature had a subtle and kind way of handling the balance... But its always seemed to work til we came along. I just think we have developed far more power than we should have without the respect to wield it properly.

The way we have evolved is out of our nature, it should be considered that we are only acting out of a sense of survival which is only the nature of all living things. I can understand that humanity needs to put aside its differences and strive ultimately towards technological progress so as to make the world we live in better for our future generations. And in due course i should hope leave earth and explore space, but alas we are still a most irrational species beset by our vices. Truly there is no animal more tragic then man, we strive for better only to be held back by the very nature that goads us to build the good/no place.

"Who could behold his greatness without envy...count no man happy till he dies, free of pain at last" Sophocles, Oedipus the king.

Furmillionaire said:
Words

Alright, I guess I'm just a hippie then. We shall agree to disagree.

Without even hesitating. I'd go coon like -snaps- that!

we got the dude saying machines are l33t, people saying humans suck, people saying we are monsters, tearing up the world around us. seriously, just... no.

I'm proud to be human, I am nothing more, and nothing less.

Furmillionaire said:
Brotip: nature's idea of 'regulating the balance' results in animals going extinct pretty often too, but I guess it's okay when that happens because 'it's nature'. It's not some sentient system that can predict problems and avoid them, it's just reactive, like, if there are too many deer they eat all the grasses and the rare regional grasses go extinct and then the deer starve until there are not that many left again. That's regulation of a sort sure but it's not exactly as nice and romantic as hippies like to think it is.

such is the circle of life, I'm all for preservation, but we can't hold ourselves back simply because a few people think nature is a fragile flower. It is, in fact, more like a weed.

a beautiful weed, nonetheless.

Rarborman said:
I'm ashamed to be sharing the enviroment with all the stupid plants animals and people but I've got very little choice in it.

Never forget - Death is always on your side.

"Murder time, fun time!"