despite me being one...

Why can't furries be nicer? T~T

I thought they were, but, I guess I romanticized them.

If you're talking about us, we would act nicer if you were actually nice yourself.
Insinuating that the mods have a "fucked-up imbalance of pride and egotism that [they] seem to possess to a level far beyond that of "crazy"" is wrong and doesn't endear you to us at all.

e621's mods are pretty great, especially if you compare them to the mods on some other popular furry sites.

Riversyde said:
If you're talking about us, we would act nicer if you were actually nice yourself.
Insinuating that the mods have a "fucked-up imbalance of pride and egotism that [they] seem to possess to a level far beyond that of "crazy"" is wrong and doesn't endear you to us at all.

I only state what I see. Besides, I find errors with your statement:

1. I said "seem to". I did not say "do".

2. Who are you to judge? You are a mod; not God.

UltravioletMoonRay said:
2. Who are you to judge? You are a mod; not God.

So only God can judge people's character?

In that case, please explain why you felt justified in making such judgments about the staff here.

Snowy said:
So only God can judge people's character?

In that case, please explain why you felt justified in making such judgments about the staff here.

In the context of knowing who a person is, yes.

Ultimately, we can only guess a person's disposition.

Yes. A guess. I said "seem to," which is the one important piece of the puzzle you guys --> SEEM TO <-- (get it, now?) keep missing.

Meaningless quibbling and starting two threads just to whine some more? Not helping your case, man. ;)

Being a furry doesn't automatically make someone approachable/kind/exciting/funny/etc. It's just an interest, and being an interest, there is an individual person behind it.

Liking the same stuff as the next person doesn't mean we are going to warm up all cozy and nice together, because things like attitude and personality play a larger role in forming relationships/friendships.

Too bad so sad. Not everyone is nice. Cry more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fZgvag5xXM

❤

We're people, specifically random people from the internet. We're not all from one religion, one culture, or even one part of the world. Hell, furry is a very broad term that can incorporate hundreds of fetishes, as well as being completely non-sexual. What you're saying is akin to complain that people with green eyes are rude.

/me waits for the white knights
who always turn up in a situation like this

lol drama.

in other news...furries ruin er'thing.
/bad trollololing

Troxxelcot said:
e621's mods are pretty great, especially if you compare them to the mods on some other popular furry sites.

Define "great"

KiwiPotato said:
Define "great"

I am great. Great is null0010.

There I already thought that somebody would present us a fleshed out, near-philosophical, and certainly psychological insight into their depraved lives and idetity crises.

I am disappoint.

No, but really, people could generally be nicer, not particularly here, I find the people here quite nice actually, but this world needs more Rabbu ando piisu.

Vagabond said:
Rabbu ando piisu.

Stop that moonspeak jibber-jabber.

B-but..... I imitated a badly voiced fat american. :(

Don't insult people, especially the staff, and you will be treated nicer. Simple as that.

While I agree that the site is a great place for furries to interact with the furry community and experience the furry lifestyle, I find that there exists a lack of kindness and respect in the actual community itself. Acknowledging that the world isn't a perfect thing, I would believe that it wouldn't be hard for users just to be nicer to each other. So what if someone had a different opinion of yours, it is no such excuse to hammer other users with insults or negative attitude. It takes a good user to recognize tolerance and to simply respect each others opinions. In fact, this can be said for any part of life. People who say, "Oh, well the world is a sucky place, get used to it." are only refuting the fact that things can change.

As for the staff of the site. I believe that you are all making a great contribution to your users and the furry community and that you should be recognized for your outstanding efforts to make this site what it is today. However, this does not make the staff more privileged over others, socially speaking. Certaintly there are some powers that you have over others that come with the control of the site. I am just saying that you can't abuse this when communicating with others. We should all be treated in the same and equal manner. (No offense to any of the staff of the site. As I said, you are all great guys. I am just expressing my opinion on the topic.)

In other words, be happy and act nicely! :)

Furry_Fanatic said:
While I agree that the site is a great place for furries to interact with the furry community and experience the furry lifestyle, I find that there exists a lack of kindness and respect in the actual community itself. Acknowledging that the world isn't a perfect thing, I would believe that it wouldn't be hard for users just to be nicer to each other. So what if someone had a different opinion of yours, it is no such excuse to hammer other users with insults or negative attitude. It takes a good user to recognize tolerance and to simply respect each others opinions. In fact, this can be said for any part of life. People who say, "Oh, well the world is a sucky place, get used to it." are only refuting the fact that things can change.

As for the staff of the site. I believe that you are all making a great contribution to your users and the furry community and that you should be recognized for your outstanding efforts to make this site what it is today. However, this does not make the staff more privileged over others, socially speaking. Certaintly there are some powers that you have over others that come with the control of the site. I am just saying that you can't abuse this when communicating with others. We should all be treated in the same and equal manner. (No offense to any of the staff of the site. As I said, you are all great guys. I am just expressing my opinion on the topic.)

In other words, be happy and act nicely! :)

What to say, what to say? "This?" or some tired variation thereof? "I WANT YOUR BABIES" or something else creepy? Or the exaggeratedly white "I wholeheartedly agree with your position on the matter, dear sir or madam!"

Eh, just pretend I did them all. <3

Furry_Fanatic said:
In other words, be happy and act nicely! :)

You're a big fat doodoo head!

Just kidding, love you all! You're great! :D

UltravioletMoonRay said:
I only state what I see. Besides, I find errors with your statement:

1. I said "seem to". I did not say "do".

Do you even know what "insinuate" means?

2. Who are you to judge? You are a mod; not God.

No, I am not God. I am a human being. Human beings have opinions, and my opinion of YOU is not a very positive one.

One of the main reasons I frequent e621 is its atmosphere.

It's wonderfully devoid of the superficial, escapist affection endemic to many furry communities.

We're jaded here. We know people hate furries. We know furries hate other furries. We know we hate each other. And we're okay with that.

KloH0und sums it up pretty well with that post

KloH0und said:
One of the main reasons I frequent e621 is its atmosphere.

It's wonderfully devoid of the superficial, escapist affection endemic to many furry communities.

We're jaded here. We know people hate furries. We know furries hate other furries. We know we hate each other. And we're okay with that.

post #74757
High five for that post, bro.

KloH0und said:
One of the main reasons I frequent e621 is its atmosphere.

It's wonderfully devoid of the superficial, escapist affection endemic to many furry communities.

We're jaded here. We know people hate furries. We know furries hate other furries. We know we hate each other. And we're okay with that.

I remember making a post awhile back about how much I loved you all, and that post still applies to this day. ∩( ・ω・)∩,

http://e621.net/forum/show/27623?page=1

null0010 said:
I am great. Great is null0010.

Really? Null means nothing and 0010 means 2 in binary.
Your #(0)2; #1 is great

*Reads half of the first post* YOU ARE ALL WRONG

KloH0und said:
It's wonderfully devoid of the superficial, escapist affection endemic to many furry communities.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what so many artists and others HATE about e621. :P "I want my art removed because people are making rude comments on it." Sometimes it seems like artists would rather not know that there are people out there that DON'T like their artwork, or would at least rather not know what those people have to say about their artwork.

I wouldn't have it any other way though. I love this aspect of e621.

I know I do my best to respect everyone and get along, even being a lowly pissant on the totem pole here. I try to be friendly and though I too have my moments of short fused reactions I usually refrain from being a bitch and what have you as to avoid being hated on for negativity.

As for furries being sweet or asses... I look at it as a balance really. I mean, if there was no bad... Would the good really look and be so grand? I think its the crappy things and people that really help the good things and people shine and stand out, so in a sense both hold a place together.

Furries, like any other "sub-culture," represent a slice of the world's population. And guess what? The world is populated by (SURPRISE!) people. Let me put it in a simple logical form:

Some people are assholes.
Furries are people.
Therefore, some furries are assholes.

Being part of a particular group doesn't inherently mean you're nice. You can replace "furries" in that argument with "Christians," "atheists," "old people," "young people," etc. Any group of people, by definition, contains people, and so will have a chance of containing assholes.

Moral of the story: get over it. Ignore the assholes and move on.

Char said:
Unfortunately, this is precisely what so many artists and others HATE about e621. :P "I want my art removed because people are making rude comments on it." Sometimes it seems like artists would rather not know that there are people out there that DON'T like their artwork, or would at least rather not know what those people have to say about their artwork.

I wouldn't have it any other way though. I love this aspect of e621.

This seems to be the case with most new/newish artists out there,and some older ones who aren't accustomed to acknowledging mixed feedback as yet.

Once taken with a grain of salt,unfiltered feedback such as those in the comments section is invaluable to anyone looking for an authentic opinion of their work (which isn't something you directly get much of these days)

The role-playing I could do without,however. :x

KloH0und said:
One of the main reasons I frequent e621 is its atmosphere.

It's wonderfully devoid of the superficial, escapist affection endemic to many furry communities.

We're jaded here. We know people hate furries. We know furries hate other furries. We know we hate each other. And we're okay with that.

precisely

I wouldn't say we're a jaded or hateful crowd so much (well, maybe a little.) more that we prefer to be grown ups on the internet :V This is not a playground for anyone who can't take a few punches in good humour.
We're not out to backstab each other, but it's nice being in an environment where you can candid, sarcastic or even snide, knowing that people aren't going to take it to heart

elad said:
I wouldn't say we're a jaded or hateful crowd so much (well, maybe a little.) more that we prefer to be grown ups on the internet :V This is not a playground for anyone who can't take a few punches in good humour.
We're not out to backstab each other, but it's nice being in an environment where you can candid, sarcastic or even snide, knowing that people aren't going to take it to heart

Indeed.
Additionally, I haven't seen any picture in here so far where the criticism got out of hand or moved within unreasonable borders, with the advantage that it's not unreasonably shallow and uncritical, either;

Vagabond said:
Indeed.
Additionally, I haven't seen any picture in here so far where the criticism got out of hand or moved within unreasonable borders, with the advantage that it's not unreasonably shallow and uncritical, either;

You just haven't been looking hard enough.

In all retrospect, only a few posts, especially that long, drawn reply that practically mirrored how I felt, seem to be unbiased enough to. actually contribute worthwhile content for reading. My reply to everyone:

"Life is full of bullshit yet, 'being okay with it' or 'accepting that it exists' does not constitute change. I am proactive. I oppose those that abuse (and underuse) authority consistently. I am only your enemy if you make me that way. Furry, or not."

UltravioletMoonRay said:
In all retrospect, only a few posts, especially that long, drawn reply that practically mirrored how I felt, seem to be unbiased enough to. actually contribute worthwhile content for reading. My reply to everyone:

"Life is full of bullshit yet, 'being okay with it' or 'accepting that it exists' does not constitute change. I am proactive. I oppose those that abuse (and underuse) authority consistently. I am only your enemy if you make me that way. Furry, or not."

post #110495

Wolfnacht said:
post #110495

I lol'd

and ultra, i think you missed the point. you are indeed correct that being okay with something does not promote change. the majority of the denizens here are happy with our admittedly slightly cynical setup and are not looking to change it. if you can't cope then gtfo :V

UltravioletMoonRay said:
I am proactive.

I'm lazy, cynical, and opposed to change. Nice to meet you. ^.^

UltravioletMoonRay said:
I oppose those that abuse (and underuse) authority consistently.

The mods and admins here are pretty nice chaps and lasses. They do enough to keep us in line, but not so much that this becomes a hostile dictatorship. Really, I think they're walking the line quite nicely.

UltravioletMoonRay said:
I am only your enemy if you make me that way.

But 'making you that way' is apparently as easy as not living up to your romanticized interpretation of what furries are. I can't help it if we're just random folks from the internet who happen to share a very broad taste in artwork, nor do I really want to become anything more than that. I like anthropomorphic artwork, and as an added bonus some of my personal fetishes also tend to be drawn by furry artists.

There is a community here, but it's a very loose community that incorporates everyone from all ends of the religious, political, and sexual spectrums. It's not close knit or lovey dovey, but I think the diversity is a plus.

That's a nice post,Shatari

Riversyde said:
post #74757
High five for that post, bro.

> High five
> four fingers
...

Edit: And, no, I can't add to the discussion. My disposition is "don't like it, gtfo" which, in essence, has already been said.

You know, after reading this discussion, it's possible that this brings up a site feature admin could work on.

It appears a certain percentage of e621's users would love the ability to enjoy the art without having to listen to the crowd.

Maybe admin could create a setting that would allow users to not see comments? They would still exist, of course, but those who don't want to be part of the "community," however they perceive it, wouldn't have to.

Another way of saying the same thing: this would be a blacklist of commenting in general. It's a way for users to "gtfo" without having to lose the art. And it's good for the site and for the admin, since by being on the site, those users would still be seeing the ads that keep the place running.

DobiesHot said:
You know, after reading this discussion, it's possible that this brings up a site feature admin could work on.

It appears a certain percentage of e621's users would love the ability to enjoy the art without having to listen to the crowd.

Maybe admin could create a setting that would allow users to not see comments? They would still exist, of course, but those who don't want to be part of the "community," however they perceive it, wouldn't have to.

already done. check your settings

ippiki_ookami said:
already done. check your settings

Well, sheesh! How did I miss that?? Is there a similar function for blacklisting comments from certain individuals?

DobiesHot said:
Well, sheesh! How did I miss that?? Is there a similar function for blacklisting comments from certain individuals?

there's an interesting idea, but it wouldn't work for anyone quoting the blacklisted person

elad said:
there's an interesting idea, but it wouldn't work for anyone quoting the blacklisted person

True. Still a valuable tool, though!

It's always "butthurt," isn't it? >n>

If someone doesn't agree with or like something = butthurt.

Fine; let me be butthurt,then. Idrgaf. I stand by my point.

As for that whole "romanticing" bit, fuck you. Forgive me for having a belief that somewhere exists a place or culture where people aren't asses.

Fuck you, again.

inb4: U mad?
response: An understatement.
inb4: y u mad tho?
response: Because I just am.
inb4: // troll faic
response: How's your appetite? :D

UltravioletMoonRay said:
I'm Angry

Rumpravaged.
Coloncrushed.
Analassaulted.
Bumburnt.
Anusattacked.
Derrieredamned.
Backsidebreached.
Fundamentfrazzled.
Tailtrod.
Tushtickled.
Fannyfrayed.
Assannihilated.

UltravioletMoonRay said:
It's always "butthurt," isn't it? >n>

No, not always. But you apparently didn't notice my reply. :(

Shatari said:
No, not always. But you apparently didn't notice my reply. :(

Naw, I read it. I didn't have anything to say, really,'cept that I made a typo here:

"I'm only your enemy if you see me that way," is how that should have been worded.

Otherwise, cool post dood. You tackled some strong points, there.

EDIT: Not that I'm saying, "Aiight,I agree with everything you say."

DarkShadow6 said:
> High five
> four fingers

Technically, only 3 fingers.

Thumb's not a finger, it's just a digit.

Actini said:
Technically, only 3 fingers.

Thumb's not a finger, it's just a digit.

Well then every high five in the history of man has been erroneous.

KloH0und said:
Well then every high five in the history of man has been erroneous.

Agreed. I've never understood the logic that anthropomorphic animals would have only four fingers. Dogs and cats have four toes and a dew claw. By the time you anthropomorpicize (humanize) that, it makes perfect sense to me that the dewclaw would migrate toward the other fingers and become the thumb.

KloH0und said:
Well then every high five in the history of man has been erroneous.

Nope. It's been a "high five digits," not a "high five fingers." Problem solved!