I heard they were not allowed but why not?

Griff said:
I heard they were not allowed but why not?

It's as simple as "Jeremy Bernal has informed the e621 administration that his works are not allowed to be hosted on the site.".

That's really all there is to it. And he's hardly the only one; all of the artists on our Avoid Posting list have done the same: http://e621.net/wiki/show?title=avoid_posting

As i've heard, Bernal has threatened to sue at least once.

Cause Bernal is a whiny lil'...mongler.

http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Jeremy_Bernal

Technically we're supposed to ask the artist who made the work before we upload it here in the first place, right?

But then it ends up being one of those things like speed limits or copyright law or tariffs on imported textiles

Kotep said:
tariffs on imported textiles

Do those actually exist? ._.;;

They were linked to the start of the Civil War:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Tariff

Tariffs were imposed because the manufacturing industries of the growing US couldn't compete with the cheap goods of established countries like England. It was a big issue between northern and southern states because the northern states got most of the benefits from taxing imports.

Kotep said:
They were linked to the start of the Civil War:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrill_Tariff

Tariffs were imposed because the manufacturing industries of the growing US couldn't compete with the cheap goods of established countries like England. It was a big issue between northern and southern states because the northern states got most of the benefits from taxing imports.

I see...

Mario583 said:
Cause Bernal is a whiny lil'...mongler.

Bad for him. He doesn't let his art spread even more, though I've seen his images on other sites :/
If I were an artist (not saying I am, I suck at drawing) I wouldn't care much if my art suddenly appeared here, meh.

Kotep said:
Technically we're supposed to ask the artist who made the work before we upload it here in the first place, right?

Well yeah, but if the artist itself uploads his/hers images, wich is the case of [REDACTED], [REMOVED], [SOPA'D] and many others, does that count as a permission automatically?

...how does an artist upload an image without their own permission?

Is there reflexive permission?

my head hurts

Well, even if someone used an account with the same name as an artist, if the artist is already DNP then I'd imagine the admins would have to assume that the image was posted without authorization, and they would delete it.

So a DNP artist would have to work something out where they're generally DNP, with exceptions.

ikdind said:
Well, even if someone used an account with the same name as an artist, if the artist is already DNP then I'd imagine the admins would have to assume that the image was posted without authorization, and they would delete it.

So a DNP artist would have to work something out where they're generally DNP, with exceptions.

That would be trolling. But I guess so, artist or not, DNP is DNP and it should not be uploaded here

AbsebaroKoon said:
Yeah, I question about uploads by the artist themselves. If an artist is DNP but if the actual artist uploads it themselves, does it get approved?

Yes, provided that they verify that they are the artist (sending a PM from their FA account or similar). For example, Frisky Ferals is DNP (because it's a paysite and they requested it). However, Otterface uploads Frisky Ferals art, and it gets approved because Otterface is one of the artists and represents the team behind the website.

Raiden_Gekkou said:
As i've heard, Bernal has threatened to sue at least once.

Heh and I would laugh my ass off as someone presents his animal porn in court :P

AbsebaroKoon said:
Nah, as long as they censor the nude parts. But anyways, agreed.

Yeah, cause that would make it not awkward.

John Doe #29’s counsel represents that his client is an octogenarian with neither the wherewithal nor the interest in using BitTorrent to download Gang Bang Virgins.

Please ponder this before pontificating on what is and is not too awkward to present in court.

Char said:
It's as simple as "Jeremy Bernal has informed the e621 administration that his works are not allowed to be hosted on the site.".

That's really all there is to it. And he's hardly the only one; all of the artists on our Avoid Posting list have done the same: http://e621.net/wiki/show?title=avoid_posting

Okay that's simple. I thought it was a administration preference. *shrugs*

Sorry to, hipothetically, reopen the thread, but what if Bernal (or somebody else) decides to upload an image announcing something he will be doing? Like promoting free post-any-where-you want art.

Incidentally

Bernal doesn't have good art

xLuna said:
what if Bernal (or somebody else) decides to upload an image announcing something he will be doing? Like promoting free post-any-where-you want art.

Same answer as with the more general DNP artist question from before. I believe the policy is that a DNP artist is DNP in all ways unless an exception is noted, including "free" or "promo" materials.

There are some artists on the DNP which have exceptions listed. Read the DNP for details.

GreyMaria said:
Bernal doesn't have good art

Pretty much this. It isn't even attractive.

xLuna said:
Sorry to, hipothetically, reopen the thread, but what if Bernal (or somebody else) decides to upload an image announcing something he will be doing? Like promoting free post-any-where-you want art.

He would probably have to directly request removal from the DNP list, I think. Not that he would ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever do this.

GreyMaria said:
Incidentally

Bernal doesn't have good art

Where can I vote this up?
Bernal's doing the world a favor by not allowing his art anywhere.

We delete bernals art on sight, because bernal is a whiny cockgobling tit that needs to realize his artwork is shit and fuck off already. That and he will actually sue people over his internet furry porn. Yeah.

Disclaimer: The staff want to express quite clearly that this opinion is in no way endorsed by any other staff members of E621, and is purely the personal opinion of this particular person. We judge all artists fairly and treat artists with the respect they deserve while using our site.

Princess_Celestia said:
We delete bernals art on sight, because bernal is a whiny cockgobling tit that needs to realize his artwork is shit and fuck off already.

I thought that; Is really such a crybaby?

Princess_Celestia also said:
That and he will actually sue people over his internet furry porn. Yeah.

Heh, and I imagine again when presenting proof

xLuna said:
I thought that; Is really such a crybaby?

Yes. He really really is. It's kind of pathetic in a way. I wonder, whenever he's brought up, if he's really secretly lonely and wanting attention because his life is shit and this is really just because he's so miserable and empty, but then I remember he's a

Princess_Celestia said:
whiny cockgobling tit that needs to realize his artwork is shit and fuck off already.

-shrugs- I like his work.

AbsebaroKoon said:
Does any haz a pic of his work? I'll be the judge of how good they are.

Not on here. Just google it, you will get a decent sampling.

They are nice, but hardly worth being as bad as he is about them

I've actually chatted with Bernal before, and he's not the bloodthirsty asshole people think he is. Most of the DMCA's filed are done exclusively by his lawyers without him even knowing about it until the latter part of the process. Is he passionate about protecting his intellectual property? Of course. Is he the whiny drama-mongering dickbag everyone makes him out to be? I don't think so. At least not these days. Just chat him up on FA and see for yourself.

I remember talking about this the other day. He's at the top of his game and sometimes you have to break a few fingers to get there. It is his bussiness afterall; but I'm not sure if he's still so adamant about being aggressive.

GreyMaria said:
Incidentally

Bernal doesn't have good art

Yeah i know. all his stuff looks alike but i do like Sasha ... for some reason.

I like demonbunny and orchid. Some of their pinups are flat out amazing.

ippiki_ookami said:
I've actually chatted with Bernal before, and he's not the bloodthirsty asshole people think he is. Most of the DMCA's filed are done exclusively by his lawyers without him even knowing about it until the latter part of the process.

That's too bad, then. His lawyers have earned him a reputation, and based on that reputation, I would actually feel bad if I supported his business. Said reputation being more than DMCA filings, but full-on "he threatens to sue first, and you hope he never contacts you again."

I can appreciate wanting to monetize on his talents, but I strongly disapprove of the dogmatic legal thuggery he represents.

ippiki_ookami said:
I've actually chatted with Bernal before, and he's not the bloodthirsty asshole people think he is. Most of the DMCA's filed are done exclusively by his lawyers without him even knowing about it until the latter part of the process. Is he passionate about protecting his intellectual property? Of course. Is he the whiny drama-mongering dickbag everyone makes him out to be? I don't think so. At least not these days. Just chat him up on FA and see for yourself.

You can tell your lawyers to not do shit, you know.

Griff said:
Yeah i know. all his stuff looks alike but i do like Sasha ... for some reason.

I won't lie. Gunbunny got me into furry. Technophilia and all that.

Well. And some Aladdin porn, but you know how that goes.

RedOctober said:
I won't lie. Gunbunny got me into furry.

Me too, besides some hentai, but that story is for another day. Since then I stopped looking for more art from him but then took an arrow to the knee found that he's not the only artist. Suddenly discovered VG Cats, in the same hentai site (man, what a small world) then skip some time, and found more and more artists. I started here when I found chalo's art, found Las Lindas and the near Draconia. *sigh* Good times...
I wonder if they come here...

I know nothing about Bernal, but I do enjoy his work.

xLuna said:
Me too, besides some hentai, but that story is for another day. Since then I stopped looking for more art from him but then took an arrow to the knee found that he's not the only artist. Suddenly discovered VG Cats, in the same hentai site (man, what a small world) then skip some time, and found more and more artists. I started here when I found chalo's art, found Las Lindas and the near Draconia. *sigh* Good times...
I wonder if they come here...

We should start a thread on this kinda stuff maybe?

Info necro.

Has anyone who's ever seen a Sexyfur pic on this site ever notice the watermark on it(if it was an unedited Sexyfur image)? I didn't know that it was a form of DRM.

Raiden_Gekkou said:
Info necro.

Has anyone who's ever seen a Sexyfur pic on this site ever notice the watermark on it(if it was an unedited Sexyfur image)? I didn't know that it was a form of DRM.

Ker-BUMP!

Yeah, I noticed it, but only after I got told about it for the first time.

Why other places don't do this, I have no fucking cl--oh, wait, it's because the pirate distributors are still paying customers! Of course! That makes all the sense. Hey, let's ban the pirate distributors so we don't get nearly as much money out of them! Yeah! That's pretty fucking stupid but who cares JUSTICE FOR ALL!

You guys are retarded...