Sure, we are related in many ways, but we don't look alike, in fact I prefer the animal form, and never knew there could be an Anthro image until like around '98, OK so I'm old, but when I found Furry art I was excited that someone else imagined animals as I did in my mind, but actually shared with art!
There's something about horses, deer, foxes and wolves, any Anthro form, because it's beautiful and attractive. So, at least in my case I've always been a Fur, just never knew it was normal and organized. A Doe, a Filly, a Heifer, I never saw "real" animals except at the Bronx Zoo and Staten Island Zoo. Furry filled the void.

Ok, I don't understand your point, OP >_>

I used to be curious about cartoon porn, then I found rule 34 and used rule 34 for years without knowing what furry fandom is, and after I found that people in the fandom are a lot like me in general, I joined the fandom.

I joined the fandom because I had interest in toony animals, but I stayed in the fandom BECAUSE PEOPLE.

You should see me IRL and Online, Every time I wanna say something I hear a response of "Oh, Shut Up please." But the fandom is where I easily can tell How I feel/What I'm thinking about without people insulting me or calling me a retard.

I don't like RL animals myself. I used to love cats since my childhood, but I lost interest in cats 2 years ago.

I'd say it's because we're so familiar with the human form. When we see a drawn or otherwise artificial human, we're quick to notice the flaws.

Furry art seems to be much easier to look at than human art.

alirezatm said:
Ok, I don't understand your point, OP >_>

I used to be curious about cartoon porn, then I found rule 34 and used rule 34 for years without knowing what furry fandom is, and after I found that people in the fandom are a lot like me in general, I joined the fandom.

I joined the fandom because I had interest in toony animals, but I stayed in the fandom BECAUSE PEOPLE.

You should see me IRL and Online, Every time I wanna say something I hear a response of "Oh, Shut Up please." But the fandom is where I easily can tell How I feel/What I'm thinking about without people insulting me or calling me a retard.

I don't like RL animals myself. I used to love cats since my childhood, but I lost interest in cats 2 years ago.

I guess I don't have a point, just exploring other people's attractions, curious. Well, I am very outspoken too, I mean in RL, I was an elected official and stepped on a lot of toes, and in Furry I very often say the "wrong thing", but like in a herd or pack, we feel the need to challenge. I had extreme contact with animals, ran a sanctuary in NY and always felt comfortable around them, so I ended up training horses, I was around then so much I could recognize them by scent, did a special on the Animal Planet, but aside from RL I like a cute butt, furry tail, and now raise deer in Texas, I feel at home with them and they with me, I guess I may have been an animal in another life.

Knotty_Curls said:
I'd say it's because we're so familiar with the human form. When we see a drawn or otherwise artificial human, we're quick to notice the flaws.

Furry art seems to be much easier to look at than human art.

Could be, makes sense, we're bored with humanity, even with our many differences we can't compare to the endless varieties in the animal kingdom.

I'd rather look at Furry art as well, even here if you see a human form I just pass over it, they are never drawn well anyway.

I think it's a 50-50 distribution.

Half of furries simply like animals,
While half others are interested in cartoons.(includes me)

Horses and Camels sicken me. Every time I go with some faggots out of the city, they see a horse and want to ride it, and always they bitch at me that why I don't wish to ride horses.

I try to avoid animals IRL(expect cats & lizards) also my biology was awful at highschool LOL

I simply liked cartoon characters, that's all.

Well! I'll stop in, as I'm sure could be expected.

There are two things here, and despite the protests of many, I think they are related. Those two things are zoophilia and the furry fandom. I know more about the former than the latter, but I'll try to explain my thoughts for both.

As far as attraction to true animals goes - zoophilia - it seems best to understand this as a sexual orientation, like, say, homosexuality. The two are actually very similar in how they express themselves. There are multiple facets of sexual orientation (emotional, romantic, attraction, preference, etc.) that apply to both, and there are some trends (such as the feelings associated with being in the closet, the age at which someone comes to know their orientation, the sense of identity that goes with it... too many things to list briefly) that again, are common to both. So this brings me to my point. I would suspect that, considering how similar they are in so many ways, these two sexual orientations might be similar in origin as well.

By that I mean... Homosexuality is fairly complicated to "pin down", being that there are many factors which influence whether or not someone will be homosexual. I would hypothesize that the same is true about zoophilia. That there are genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors at play. Not necessarily the same factors, mind you - I doubt that male sibling birth order has much of an impact for zoophiles - but nonetheless I think there is probably a similar complexity to both, in the same basic categories.

Furthermore, just as there is some "latent homosexuality", in a sense, in many people, I think there may also be some "latent zoophilia". Which brings me to the Furry Fandom. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that furries are necessarily zoophiles, or even primarily zoophiles. But what I am saying is that it might be, for some, an expression of some amount of latent zoophilia. Again, there are certainly other factors at play as well, such as imprinting.

Usually I'd offer a summary of what I just said for my final paragraph, but honestly I think these issues are too complicated for that to actually be of any benefit in this case.

^^^

The Truth

alirezatm said:
I think it's a 50-50 distribution.

Half of furries simply like animals,
While half others are interested in cartoons.(includes me)

Horses and Camels sicken me. Every time I go with some faggots out of the city, they see a horse and want to ride it, and always they bitch at me that why I don't wish to ride horses.

I try to avoid animals IRL(expect cats & lizards) also my biology was awful at highschool LOL

I simply liked cartoon characters, that's all.

Awww, Actually there are many "Faggots" who ride professionally, but no one has to like horses or camels or gerbils, just do what makes you happy. I enjoy cartoons as well, I loved Bugs Bunny, he taught me how to talk!

Clawdragons said:
Well! I'll stop in, as I'm sure could be expected.

There are two things here, and despite the protests of many, I think they are related. Those two things are zoophilia and the furry fandom. I know more about the former than the latter, but I'll try to explain my thoughts for both.

As far as attraction to true animals goes - zoophilia - it seems best to understand this as a sexual orientation, like, say, homosexuality. The two are actually very similar in how they express themselves. There are multiple facets of sexual orientation (emotional, romantic, attraction, preference, etc.) that apply to both, and there are some trends (such as the feelings associated with being in the closet, the age at which someone comes to know their orientation, the sense of identity that goes with it... too many things to list briefly) that again, are common to both. So this brings me to my point. I would suspect that, considering how similar they are in so many ways, these two sexual orientations might be similar in origin as well.

By that I mean... Homosexuality is fairly complicated to "pin down", being that there are many factors which influence whether or not someone will be homosexual. I would hypothesize that the same is true about zoophilia. That there are genetic, hormonal, and environmental factors at play. Not necessarily the same factors, mind you - I doubt that male sibling birth order has much of an impact for zoophiles - but nonetheless I think there is probably a similar complexity to both, in the same basic categories.

Furthermore, just as there is some "latent homosexuality", in a sense, in many people, I think there may also be some "latent zoophilia". Which brings me to the Furry Fandom. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that furries are necessarily zoophiles, or even primarily zoophiles. But what I am saying is that it might be, for some, an expression of some amount of latent zoophilia. Again, there are certainly other factors at play as well, such as imprinting.

Usually I'd offer a summary of what I just said for my final paragraph, but honestly I think these issues are too complicated for that to actually be of any benefit in this case.

I hope I didn't mislead you when I said I was attracted to animals, I don't want to marry one. I'm also "attracted" to many things and don't necessarily want to have sex with them either.
I spent many years in the company of animals, I brought them into the world, and comforted them when they left, they are much more to me then a cumhole.

Hunterdeer said:
I hope I didn't mislead you when I said I was attracted to animals, I don't want to marry one. I'm also "attracted" to many things and don't necessarily want to have sex with them either.

Don't worry, I didn't think that was what you meant. I understood from the context that you are referring mostly to anthropomorphic animals, not actual animals, but again, one of my points is that I think the two are more related than most people are willing to admit. I wasn't applying it to you specifically, I was making a more general statement about attractions as a whole.

Knotty_Curls said:
Furry art seems to be much easier to look at than human art.

This, for me. There's only so much you can do with a human in terms of art. Only so many options in terms of customization. You open up to furries and anthropomorphic animals, and you suddenly have a lot more unique combinations and appearances for character that you can't really achieve with humans. Species, markings, skin colors, multiple limbs and eyes. It's all much more interesting than humans to me.

Clawdragons said:
Don't worry, I didn't think that was what you meant. I understood from the context that you are referring mostly to anthropomorphic animals, not actual animals, but again, one of my points is that I think the two are more related than most people are willing to admit. I wasn't applying it to you specifically, I was making a more general statement about attractions as a whole.

I referred to both I think, and if there were such creatures as Anthro Deer and horses I'd be the first to have a relationship. Thanks for the response.

Kida said:
This, for me. There's only so much you can do with a human in terms of art. Only so many options in terms of customization. You open up to furries and anthropomorphic animals, and you suddenly have a lot more unique combinations and appearances for character that you can't really achieve with humans. Species, markings, skin colors, multiple limbs and eyes. It's all much more interesting than humans to me.

Yes, I think we have "done it all" as humans' in terms of art, sex, beauty, the Ancients did the same thing we do today...boring!
Exactly!! You're on my wave-lenght! The many variations, cross species, colors, and because of their adjustable body points an endless variation of positions to experiment with.

Eedez said:
It's a "cute", vaguely adorable design attached to a sexually attreactive body, Not that difficult to understand. When it comes furry, I think this quote sums it all up

Unfortunately it was a Frankie Boyle joke about bestiality, BUT given how Boyle is a fan of Katia Managan....

To me before and after sex is the most satisfying, I do Equine Therapeutic massage that is modified to humans, many similar pressure points and erotic zones as well. My mission in massage is to comfort and relax my partner, sex may happen, then to cuddle and relax, sometimes joke about the experience, but always respect, admiration, to strive for mutual satisfaction. Sometimes takes hours.

Sex should be fun, and leading up to it should have a routine or a custom, now I don't mean like two Bucks beating the hell out of each-other for a Doe, but a play act, leading up to the finale'.

Hunterdeer said:
Yes, I think we have "done it all" as humans' in terms of art, sex, beauty, the Ancients did the same thing we do today...boring!
Exactly!! You're on my wave-lenght! The many variations, cross species, colors, and because of their adjustable body points an endless variation of positions to experiment with.

I can agree with you. I also find it boring. Not only that but the comments I've seen on human porn sites make me cringe and feel unwelcome in general.

It was only natural for me to find something more artistic with a community that you actually can communicate with without getting weird or disgusting comments.

Azarion said:
I can agree with you. I also find it boring. Not only that but the comments I've seen on human porn sites make me cringe and feel unwelcome in general.

It was only natural for me to find something more artistic with a community that you actually can communicate with without getting weird or disgusting comments.

I almost barf when I see human porn, I can do it if I imagine the players as Furs, that's all. I tried Fursuit sex and that was interesting, until we had to shower, then we were human again, not to say I thought less of my partner, but we both were a little disappointed. I especially love Russian sites, when he slaps her (or his) ass I shut it off, I mean I have Russian heritage but that ass slapping is too much, there again, the other side of the world, same old shit.

Eedez said:
Unfortunately it was a Frankie Boyle joke about bestiality, BUT given how Boyle is a fan of Katia Managan...]

I can't blame her. I mean Katia is a nice character and has that characteristic of trying to be better that what she was/used to be/is (I don' t know, it's been a while since I last checked the comic =>,>= ).

I think that's that. It's not just the appeareance of a character that makes them attractive (as in "gets our attention") but also their personality and how do they fit in this furry universe. What makes them be and how have they become what they are, pretty much how, as humans, identify ourselves with the same traits with the addition that furries, scalies, etc. can have many other aspects that define them (such as Kida mentioned in forum #173413)

Edit: derp, I just realized the thread is about feral forms and not anthro... But I guess the same thing applies, how animals are (now talking in the context of real life) in the sense that they also have their personality and that they aren't just cute fur balls. Sure, the have their customs too, like dogs smelling each other's butts, or knowing which territory belongs to who and what's inside that territory. The fact that they still rely on their instincts to survive and that they can't think or do the same as us humans doesn't make them any less of an animal that we are.

This video helps out a lot and is extremely informative without a biased perspective.

Because it makes my willy hard

Humans are animals.

Because we the cool kids

Lance_Armstrong said:
Humans are animals.

Do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

Sharp_Coyote said:
Do it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

Right, and the human female's clitoris is on the bottom of the vagina when she's on all fours, at one time that was the normal breeding position. When we all started walking up-right I guess all that changed. Talking about positions...I have seen horses mate lying down, through fences, gay mountings, oral sex, and other supposed human inventions, they are as corrupted as we are. And as far as the female luring the male, (true story) I was grooming a stud once and a mare walked by, stopped, tilted her hips and raised her tail then winked, then walked on, the stallion's eyes were fixed on her ass like he was in a trance.

Lance_Armstrong said:
Humans are animals.

I like to think that, but we imagine we are better then our other brothers and sisters, we should share their existence, not exploit them.

Originally I was drawn to the Furry Fandom because people drew themselves in alternative forms, and as Otherkin that kinda resonated. Now though, I'm still here because I'm a kinky motherfucker.

im not exactly attracted to furries but i find anthros generally more aesthetically pleasing because of my face blindness. understanding and differentiating human faces is difficult to me but i do not have these problems with heavily stylished human faces or animal faces.

Hunterdeer said:
Could be, makes sense, we're bored with humanity, even with our many differences we can't compare to the endless varieties in the animal kingdom.

I'd rather look at Furry art as well, even here if you see a human form I just pass over it, they are never drawn well anyway.

this sounds about right in my case. i spend most of my time reading fanfic, looking around at pics, and more so than those, playing video games.

let's face it, compared to the vast majority of other animals in nature, humans are pretty pathetic. we're mundane and have no particularly special abilities that make us stand out in any way except maybe being smarter than most (this is questionable of course).

ok...looks like the server has been moved to here? not sure but it seems the old planet forever site i had bookmarked is down. (couldn't connect to the server)

game after game after game after game...the protagonist(s) is almost always human. me? i find it quite boring to simply play as the same thing day in, day out. i see humans anywhere, at any time irl. give me something different in games at least. and i don't mean simply elves or dwarves as those are still quite similar to humans.

come to think of it, i dunno if anyone remembers that game Earth Eternal with the fully anthro animal cast of characters throughout it (not a single human anywhere) but after it went down someone kept developing it under the name Planet Forever. not sure if that's still up in running but if anyones interested it could be something to look into (at least to see if it's down for good or not).

Xch3l said:
I can't blame her. I mean Katia is a nice character and has that characteristic of trying to be better that what she was/used to be/is (I don' t know, it's been a while since I last checked the comic =>,>= ).

I think that's that. It's not just the appeareance of a character that makes them attractive (as in "gets our attention") but also their personality and how do they fit in this furry universe. What makes them be and how have they become what they are, pretty much how, as humans, identify ourselves with the same traits with the addition that furries, scalies, etc. can have many other aspects that define them (such as Kida mentioned in forum #173413)

Edit: derp, I just realized the thread is about feral forms and not anthro... But I guess the same thing applies, how animals are (now talking in the context of real life) in the sense that they also have their personality and that they aren't just cute fur balls. Sure, the have their customs too, like dogs smelling each other's butts, or knowing which territory belongs to who and what's inside that territory. The fact that they still rely on their instincts to survive and that they can't think or do the same as us humans doesn't make them any less of an animal that we are.

I think we (humans) have had many instincts and qualities that were lost in time, knowledge that was passed on by the parents and previous generations. I see a foal born and it already has instincts to survive, in all the births I have witnessed they possess the very same instinct, human babies are helpless, although a psychologist friend of mine said that if a newborn human baby had teeth and claws it would kill to survive, don't know how to prove that theory.

Hunterdeer said:
Sure, we are related in many ways, but we don't look alike, in fact I prefer the animal form, and never knew there could be an Anthro image until like around '98, OK so I'm old, but when I found Furry art I was excited that someone else imagined animals as I did in my mind, but actually shared with art!
There's something about horses, deer, foxes and wolves, any Anthro form, because it's beautiful and attractive. So, at least in my case I've always been a Fur, just never knew it was normal and organized. A Doe, a Filly, a Heifer, I never saw "real" animals except at the Bronx Zoo and Staten Island Zoo. Furry filled the void.

I'm..... a little different, I'm similar to you in the since that I like furry art and what not, I've grown up around many animals in my life and when I hit puberty I found myself attracted to everything, men women and animals. I've experiences with all three and I have a better focus of what I like versus what I don't like.

The kernel here is that I believe part of it isn't that many furries are attracted to animals or zoophilies but that they have a small bit of xenophilia, that is a love for something alien. In this case it would be the familiar attributes of a human, Breast, upright form, testicles, hands and what not coupled with the unfamiliar and pleasing aspects of the animal such as fur, exotic cocks, exotic mammaries and the like.

We all have our own appeal to things but if you look at the artwork on this site you'll find that only recently has anatomically_correct really exploded along with ferals. Much of it is MLP but there is the tint of humans being like us getting used to the former 'exotic' attributes and have taken to stepping out further and further into the wilderness that is sexuality and sexual interests.

Because humans reflexively anthropomorphize everything.

The fact that most of the 'signs of attractiveness' are mostly the same throughout most of the animal kingdom helps too, but 'anthromorphize anything' pretty much covers .. everything.

When there's stuff like toaster porn and aircraft porn, I think it's pretty conclusive that people can find basically anything attractive, particularly if they are somewhat familiar/comfortable with it.

Because we're freaks

Fenrick said:
Because we're freaks

Fun freaks.

Another thing why using aliens/monsters/animals in artwork is easier is also due to the effects of uncanny valley. Humans are ridiculously good at human facial recognition (even if some think they really aren't), and because of this you have to be ridiculously good at drawing faces if drawing humans, or else have everyone shudder from looking at your art.

MonsterFiction said:
Fun freaks.

Happy freaks.

I wish, I could contribute something to this thread, that hasn't been said already by someone else much more eloquently, than I ever could.

But instead, I'm just going to say how interesting these posts were up until now. I find this topic highly interesting and was surprised to find so many serious responses.

OBM1 said:
. I find this topic highly interesting myself and was surprised to find so many serious responses.

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Thanks to everyone who took part in this study. I guess we are all related in our interest in Furry art, anthropomorphics, and animals in general, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
I find comfort imagining that we could be more similar to animals, that they could be more like us and share emotions and desires as equals.

Hunterdeer said:
I find comfort imagining that we could be more similar to animals, that they could be more like us and share emotions and desires as equals.

I think this has a lot to do with it...although we may fetishize the novel we find ourselves naturally drawn to perceived similarities, and anything with eyes and an animus has the potential for that kind of connection. The fact that so much DNA is shared throughout the higher taxa shows in the greater scheme we are far more alike than we are different, and because we define the world in relation to ourselves they can be a template to explore variant aspects of the psyche. It's telling how so many ancient cultures anthropomorphized animals considered emblematic of their virtues straight into the pantheon