Topic: Why is everyone hating on Curtsibling?

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This artist who made his own character called pegaslut is getting disliked by many people on e621, and whenever i check comments people use inappropiated language and calling the artist a "faggot" for no reason, and how is he trying hard exactly if he's just drawing art of ponies in bad behavior and other artwork of ponies and furries getting murdered?

Take a look at this example, you can check the comments on this one.
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I just don't understand why you people think you are allowed to harass innocent artist who done nothing but made artwork by himself.

And yes i do like curtsibling and i don't disrespect any artist unless they're corrupted.

If you are OFFENDED by artist who disrespect MLP fandom and Furry fandom, here's a good idea.

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So if L & his army insult hector, the artist is sucker?

Probably not.

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alirezatm said:
So if L & his army insult hector, the artist is sucker?

Probably not.

I don't understand.

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Joking aside, I don't have a problem with what he's doing. I'm not offended and I don't care about MLP.
But the dude just seems like he's trying too hard. It was mildly amusing at first, now it's just... odd. Seems like an obsession. The shock value has worn off, too. He's not that bad of an artist but he should really branch out from "Ponies with swastikas, lol!"

Of course, there's no such thing as bad publicity, as they say. Maybe this is exactly what he wants.

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People are allowed to hate on artists who do this sort of thing because they can. Also, there's very few real consequences

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Fenrick said:
Joking aside, I don't have a problem with what he's doing. I'm not offended and I don't care about MLP.
But the dude just seems like he's trying too hard. It was mildly amusing at first, now it's just... odd. Seems like an obsession. The shock value has worn off, too. He's not that bad of an artist but he should really branch out from "Ponies with swastikas, lol!"

Of course, there's no such thing as bad publicity, as they say. Maybe this is exactly what he wants.

This, nailed it

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aurel said:
looking thru all time report tickets is hilarious =D
You have been reported, alireza has been reported, mutisija has been reported, aurel has been reported, yo momma has been reported, Uranus has been reported, NȯtMeNotYou has been reported
For all the silliest reasons in the wooorrld :p

Oh.. the thread?.... This stuff is meant to be disliked. Bad score means a good post in this case =D

I don't understand either what you talking about, if you are saying i reported everyone you have no proof.

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Fenrick said:
Joking aside, I don't have a problem with what he's doing. I'm not offended and I don't care about MLP.
But the dude just seems like he's trying too hard. It was mildly amusing at first, now it's just... odd. Seems like an obsession. The shock value has worn off, too. He's not that bad of an artist but he should really branch out from "Ponies with swastikas, lol!"

Of course, there's no such thing as bad publicity, as they say. Maybe this is exactly what he wants.

Yeah, first of all there are many e621 users liking nazi related post from mlp tags.

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aurel said:
No silly, I am not thaaat paranoid

So you're paranoid, but not that paranoid XD

jk. n ofens

Anyway, do not care about what people say on the internet :P

If a -8 makes you sad, the cheese grater artist should have killed himself with acid 11 times to now XD XD XD

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MyNameIsMarty said:
Internet bullying is a real thing

No it's not. If someone is harassing you online then turn off your fucking computer and go outside.

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Eh, I don't hate the person, I just don't like its art style.

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Blacklist is your friend. It's not my friend though.

I don't see myself blacklisting Curtsibling's art because it's decently drawn. And usually, when an artist hates something and draws it, the quality is terrible.

I simply scroll through e621, take a few seconds more than usual to see his/her art, then move on.

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Beanjam said:
No it's not. If someone is harassing you online then turn off your fucking computer and go outside.

Or maybe you'll be forced outside at gunpoint because the online harasser has convinced the police there's a hostage situation going on.

Or maybe you got doxxed. Perhaps your social security number and credit card information was posted online as well. Maybe the fallout from that ruins your credit score.

Or maybe all of those things happen, and more.

A lot of Internet harassment is relatively minor. Some is not.

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Clawdragons said:
Or maybe you'll be forced outside at gunpoint because the online harasser has convinced the police there's a hostage situation going on.

Or maybe you got doxxed. Perhaps your social security number and credit card information was posted online as well. Maybe the fallout from that ruins your credit score.

Or maybe all of those things happen, and more.

A lot of Internet harassment is relatively minor. Some is not.

Or maybe that's not harassment or relevant in any way to what we're talking about.

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o lawds, drama on MY furry site?????? Impossibru!!!111!

Clawdragons said:
Or maybe you'll be forced outside at gunpoint because the online harasser has convinced the police there's a hostage situation going on.

Or maybe you got doxxed. Perhaps your social security number and credit card information was posted online as well. Maybe the fallout from that ruins your credit score.

Or maybe all of those things happen, and more.

A lot of Internet harassment is relatively minor. Some is not.

or maybe you can be less irrelevant

swatting and doxing =/= calling someone a 'faggot' over the internet

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Dragonlayer said:
swatting and doxing =/= calling someone a 'faggot' over the internet

Yeah, and? I was responding to a comment that said that online harassment is not a real thing.

My last sentence specifically pointed out that most harassment is minor. But that doesn't mean that it all is. And to say that it all is insignificant is incorrect.

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I openly endorse Curtsibling and his art.
At least he's having fun, and the fact he makes so many I-hesitate-to-call-them 'people' angry pleases me.

But if I had to guess as to why he gets hate, it's likely the unapologetic subject matter he approaches. Especially with bronies, it seems.

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Clawdragons said:
Yeah, and? I was responding to a comment that said that online harassment is not a real thing.

No one said that. You're putting words in their mouth. They said online bullying is not a real thing.

Beanjam said:
No it's not. If someone is harassing you online then turn off your fucking computer and go outside.

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Waba_Grill said:
No one said that. You're putting words in their mouth. They said online bullying is not a real thing.

I genuinely don't understand how you can interpret the quote that you just quoted in a way that says anything other than "online harassment is not a real thing / is a minor issue".

How do you not get "online harassment" from "if someone is harassing you online"?

The only way I can see you coming to that conclusion is if you maintain that online bullying and online harassment are completely distinct, and going from one to the other is invalid. But if that's the case, then the quote I responded to was a complete non-sequitor, because it went from "online bullying" to "online harassment".

The point I'm trying to make is obvious. I don't get how all three of you failed to understand it.

I've put in my best effort at trying to have you bunch understand my point. If you still don't, then I give up. It's not worth fighting about.

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Clawdragons said:
I genuinely don't understand how you can interpret the quote that you just quoted in a way that says anything other than "online harassment is not a real thing / is a minor issue".

How do you not get "online harassment" from "if someone is harassing you online"?

The only way I can see you coming to that conclusion is if you maintain that online bullying and online harassment are completely distinct, and going from one to the other is invalid. But if that's the case, then the quote I responded to was a complete non-sequitor, because it went from "online bullying" to "online harassment".

The point I'm trying to make is obvious. I don't get how all three of you failed to understand it.

I've put in my best effort at trying to have you bunch understand my point. If you still don't, then I give up. It's not worth fighting about.

But you steered the conversation into another topic that we weren't talking about. We are talking about online bullying (i.e. someone insulting another and etc.) and you brought up hackers and police standoffs, which is off-topic. Also, not all harassment is bullying. They can be synonyms but they aren't the same thing. Bullying is when you power over someone inferior to you physically or mentally. Harassment can be from as little as continuously poking someone to something extreme like stalking.

It's like saying that the ocean filled with water but the water is not filled with ocean.

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I agree with waba grill on this one, bullying is a form of harassment, but if it's online it's pretty much invalid because almost much every place has an ignore function. So you can turn the person off with a couple clicks and get your peace back, which is something you can't do in real life.

If someone does doxx another person, or calls the cops on them or something then that is also definitely harassment, but not bullying anymore.
I wouldn't really call that "online" harassment though, since neither the cops are offline, nor are most actions happening online that makes doxxing another bad.
These things tend to be bad because they bleed into real life.

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Fair enough. I'll accept my error on this. My experience with how people use the two terms is such that prior to this I considered them essentially synonymous, but clearly that's not how you guys are using or understanding the terms.

I'm still not sure where bullying ends and where harassment begins though, so I'm not sure I can agree that online bullying is not much of an issue. Namecalling... Okay, that's fairly minor, and ignore buttons work generally. However, that can get gotten around by the "bully" making multiple accounts. Is that bullying still? In games, if you act in such a way as to ruin someone's enjoyment of the game (finding their location and preventing them from training on an MMO, for instance)... Is that bullying? Is spreading misinformation to the victims friends and family (say, through facebook) bullying?

I'm not trying to be nitpicky or anything here. I just clearly don't understand the term "bullying" as the bunch of you are using it, and I'm trying to find examples of what counts and what doesn't, so that I can understand what you mean by it.

Updated by anonymous

Ok my opinion to the topic:

If it makes him happy, he can draw everything he wants. But the time of insulting others with his art is over, the shocking factor is gone and even the attention he gets flies off. And nobody like an attention beggar.

Ok, it's a bit annoying for me that he uses the Third Reich's nationalsocialism to express his feelings about MLP. Gloryfing that crap régime isn't liked to be seen and not even legal where I live. (for a good reason). Even if he shows Hitler and all the stuff in a retarded light, it's still not cool to abuse it for a personal crusade.

But all in all, insulting him isn't right. I would, at the end, explain it with one of my favourite quotes (No offence):

Don’t argue with idiots. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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D4rk said:
and not even legal where I live. (for a good reason)

As an American, this triggers me

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Fenrick said:
As an American, this triggers me

As a German, I can totally understand why we have such laws

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As much as I think MLP is the most annoying and atrocious fandom in the community, I'm not going to take the time to comment negatively on every picture of it I come across.

Blacklist is your friend. I just wish the people who hate hyper/inflation art would learn this.

Although, I don't see the appeal of Nazi art. I don't hate it. I just don't understand it...

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SO many people still trying to pretend the hate is a brony thing, and not a beating a dead horse thing. It's funny :D

Updated by anonymous

It's troll art and not nearly as humorous/innovative as you think it is.

It should still be uploaded and legitimate instances of harassment against the artist should be reported. Paraphrasing alirezatm.. score doesn't matter.

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Reactive bullshit is generally worthy of mockery. When reactive bullshit seems to comprise basically all the art you do, weeeeeellll.... The idea that that person is a complete tool gains major credibility.

(taking the time to post vitriolic comments on their posts is also reactive bullshit, though. Ignoring them is best IMO)

TL;DR; It is at this point abundantly clear that they need to get a life.

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Esme_Belles said:
Their talking about this guy.
https://e621.net/user/show/116849
His first offense on here was to attack an artist named hector because he thinks digimon are living creatures that must be protected by himself and was given authority by the US president as well as a squad of marines.
https://e621.net/blip/show/34153

heh, 11 pages now and it seems hes been either silent or somehow peaceful lately as it seems it's been a month or so since his last ban.

https://e621.net/user_record?user=&reporter=&body=lepep&type=any&order=date

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treos said:
heh, 11 pages now and it seems hes been either silent or somehow peaceful lately as it seems it's been a month or so since his last ban.

https://e621.net/user_record?user=&reporter=&body=lepep&type=any&order=date

Actually I got attacked on my steam recently. They swamped my comments and attacked my "khajiit of skyrim" group till I started handing out bans.
He's been quite on here, which makes me happy...
and I have reason to believe the steam stuff was in retaliation. I reported them enough times the steam "digi- you know what" groups imploded.

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