Topic: Tag Implication: castration -> cock_and_ball_torture

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Castration may technically be a form of torture, but at least as I understand it CBT is more of a longer-term abuse than just snipping off the dangly bits.

Ballbusting is even less related to castration, as the testicles aren't removed entirely for BB (even if the victim may want them to be removed as a less painful alternative :P ).

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imagoober said:
\-1 on both

Castration may technically be a form of torture, but at least as I understand it CBT is more of a longer-term abuse than just snipping off the dangly bits.

Ballbusting is even less related to castration, as the testicles aren't removed entirely for BB (even if the victim may want them to be removed as a less painful alternative :P ).

As a fan of castration and ballbusting cbt and etc Castration are will 90% of the time focus on the pain aspect a lot and will fit under The definition of torture.

The wiki definition of ballbusting includes any harm to the testicles even going as far as rupture or removal. So yes. Castration should implicate ballbusting as it is a subgenre of ballbusting.

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GDelscribe said:
As a fan of castration and ballbusting cbt and etc Castration are will 90% of the time focus on the pain aspect a lot and will fit under The definition of torture.

The wiki definition of ballbusting includes any harm to the testicles even going as far as rupture or removal. So yes. Castration should implicate ballbusting as it is a subgenre of ballbusting.

Bumping this.

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To me it depends in how the castration occurs. In Lenexwants' art, castration usually occurs from testicals being destroyed in some fashion. I would definetly consider that CBT and ballbusting. However art that depicts the ballsack being opened up and the testicles being snipped from the body, those I don't think qualify since the procedure is done quickly and cleanly. I don't think the tags should be implicated.

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Thirtyeight said:
To me it depends in how the castration occurs. In Lenexwants' art, castration usually occurs from testicals being destroyed in some fashion. I would definetly consider that CBT and ballbusting. However art that depicts the ballsack being opened up and the testicles being snipped from the body, those I don't think qualify since the procedure is done quickly and cleanly. I don't think the tags should be implicated.

That's technically fair, but even in the bdsm community and I'm sure anyone IRL would constitute having their scrote cut open sans anaesthesia to be torture.

I do agree with you on most of that but I do consider pretty much all castration to be cbt because all castration is painful in some way, the same way we would always consider circumcision to be cbt even if there's anaesthetic in the image clearly.

That's just my take on it, but I can see why you'd consider it to be not under the definition of "torture" specifically as that can and often does imply protracted lengths of pain or discomfort rather than a consensual quick snip.

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GDelscribe said:
That's technically fair, but even in the bdsm community and I'm sure anyone IRL would constitute having their scrote cut open sans anaesthesia to be torture.

I do agree with you on most of that but I do consider pretty much all castration to be cbt because all castration is painful in some way, the same way we would always consider circumcision to be cbt even if there's anaesthetic in the image clearly.

That's just my take on it, but I can see why you'd consider it to be not under the definition of "torture" specifically as that can and often does imply protracted lengths of pain or discomfort rather than a consensual quick snip.

I guess it boils down to how the castratee is being treated. Is it in a clinical setting where the victim is kept as comfortable as possible? Or is it in a sex dungeon with the maximum amount of pain being inflicted? The latter is undoubtedly torture, the former I'm not sure about. An artist did a couple of pictures where two nurses would castrate volunteers. While there was no indication of pain medication, the setting was relaxed and the nurses focused on keeping their patients calm. I just can't consider that torture regardless of actual pain.

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Thirtyeight said:
I guess it boils down to how the castratee is being treated. Is it in a clinical setting where the victim is kept as comfortable as possible? Or is it in a sex dungeon with the maximum amount of pain being inflicted? The latter is undoubtedly torture, the former I'm not sure about. An artist did a couple of pictures where two nurses would castrate volunteers. While there was no indication of pain medication, the setting was relaxed and the nurses focused on keeping their patients calm. I just can't consider that torture regardless of actual pain.

Thats completely fair. Youre right, in some instances it wouldn't be considered torture. Cbt more so refers to any specific protracted pain to the junk but. I agree. You've got a point.

Do you think maybe implicating pain would be fair or acceptable?

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GDelscribe said:
Thats completely fair. Youre right, in some instances it wouldn't be considered torture. Cbt more so refers to any specific protracted pain to the junk but. I agree. You've got a point.

Do you think maybe implicating pain would be fair or acceptable?

Pain would work. I can't imagine any variation where there wouldn't be some pain. I guess what we need is a general tag for when someone is being damaged by another person, where the motive of the damage doer cannot be determined. Castration could be implicated to that. That way people who are squeamish about the darker permutations of BDSM have something to blacklist.

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There is also the more rarer element of castration by accident.

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Thirtyeight said:
Pain would work. I can't imagine any variation where there wouldn't be some pain. I guess what we need is a general tag for when someone is being damaged by another person, where the motive of the damage doer cannot be determined. Castration could be implicated to that. That way people who are squeamish about the darker permutations of BDSM have something to blacklist.

I really support that. Also helps people find it easier.

CBT is a blanket umbrella term that isn't at all perfect. The issue is that it's tagged with the torture term despite not having to be "torture" it just refers to any male genital pain over a period of time.

Simply due to that fact, to anyone not immediately into it is gonna assume the same thing everyone else here is assuming and honestly you're right. If theres room for that kind of error maybe there should be a new tag in general.

Is genital_trauma a tag?

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