For posts that are assigned the mostly_nude tag, would it be appropriate to add the nude tag to them too? And if so, should it be applied to all posts with the mostly_nude tag or only for certain situations, and under which criteria would it be appropriate to have both tags?

Also, I'm not sure if the forums are the right place for these kind of questions, so please let me know if there's another place for asking these questions if I'm mistaken.

Well, no, if the nude tag were appropriate they would be actually nude. =|

The whole point of mostly_nude is that they're still wearing some stuff despite being top- and bottomless. People searching for nude probably wouldn't want that included in their results.

Even the tiniest bit of underwear or string on a body counts as clothed, therefore not nude.

While we're on the topic, these do not change "nude" into "mostly_nude" for me:

* Any sort of jewelry
* Harnesses, masks, blindfolds (heavier latex/leather stuff usually qualifies though)
* Dog collars
* Goggles

However, socks and any other footgear, gloves, and headgear do qualify.

Circeus said:
However, socks and any other footgear, gloves, and headgear do qualify.

I disagree: I've been re-tagging Renamon entries that had her wearing bridal gauntlets, as I'd consider them to be long enough to count as clothing.

We need some way of saying what counts as mostly nude vs. nude. Mods, any say on this?

Googlipod said:
I disagree: I've been re-tagging Renamon entries that had her wearing bridal gauntlets, as I'd consider them to be long enough to count as clothing.

We need some way of saying what counts as mostly nude vs. nude. Mods, any say on this?

What? gloves qualify to go from nude to mostly_nude is what I meant...

Circeus said:
What? gloves qualify to go from nude to mostly_nude is what I meant...

Ah, my bad. I misread your comment.

Circeus said:
While we're on the topic, these do not change "nude" into "mostly_nude" for me:

* Any sort of jewelry
* Harnesses, masks, blindfolds (heavier latex/leather stuff usually qualifies though)
* Dog collars
* Goggles

However, socks and any other footgear, gloves, and headgear do qualify.

That's mostly how I go about it too. Though I would add that jewelry alone can turn nude into mostly_nude if it's a lavish amount that actually covers a (relatively) substantial amount of body, like you sometimes see with harem.

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At least I wouldn't call these nude anymore, there's just too much crap on them.

From what I can gather from this thread, it seems that nude and mostly_nude aren't to be used simultaneously in the same post; and that mostly_nude is to be used whenever a sizable amount of an individual's body is covered, yet they're still exposed enough to be considered nude.

Though does it matter whether or not genitals are exposed for a post to be considered mostly_nude? I saw some of these posts with the mostly_nude tag, but their genitals are more-or-less clothed.

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Mostly_nude is for when the torso is bare (both topless and bottomless) but they are wearing clothing-type accessories on their extremities: gloves, scarf, hat, shoes, socks, legwear, armwear, etc. Created because nudes should actually be fully nude. And it was a very common half-step inbetween clothed and nude which didn't fit cleanly into either, muddying up search results.

Nude is for when they're not wearing anything that can be considered even remotely clothing. So no armwear, legwear, hats, topwear, bottomwear, shoes, etc. Pretty bare everywhere.

When the mostly_nude tag was started, it was leaning towards ignoring non-clothing type of accessories entirely. So that meant that jewelry, piercings, bondage straps/rope/chains/gags, armbands, bracelets, cuffs, collars, glasses/sunglasses, etc wouldn't count either way. Because they're not actually clothing. And they already don't count with any of the other clothing tags (eg. an image would still be topless even if they have a really hugely elaborate nipple-chain/necklace thing on. Still be bottomless even if they're wearing a cock cage. Still be barefoot even with a toe_ring.) etc.

Even though there are some heavily-draped-in-jewelry characters that can seem borderline, I still think keeping the line drawn there (aka they never count for clothing tags) is wise. Because extensive markings, heavy tattoos, pierced everything can be just as noticeable as ropework, bondage cuffs, and jewelry. But none of those are really "clothing". And in the long run, trying to specify percentages jewelry/bondage gear/etc would probably make things more confusing instead of less so. A "non-clothing accessories don't count" approach to the clothing tags helps to keep things simpler and consistent overall.

And @D.D.M.: those first two images were just tagged wrong, both should be topless instead.
The third image is a perfect example of an edge case, where an image is unusual enough that it doesn't fit really well anywhere. Maybe covering + mostly_nude?

Addressing two more points that were asked about in this thread:

• It's either mostly_nude or [fully] nude or one of the other tags, such as bottomless, topless, partially_clothed, fully_clothed, etc. But no character should be tagged both at the same time for the same image. Unless it's something like a dress_up game. An edge case scenario.
• Renamon dressed only in bridal gauntlets is a perfect example of what the mostly_nude is for. When her torso is bare of clothing (top and bottom) but she's wearing clothing-type accessories on her arms = mostly_nude.

furrypickle said:

Thanks for the clarification. Do you mind if I add an annotated version of this to the mostly_nude wiki page?

furrypickle said:
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Nude is for when they're not wearing anything that can be considered even remotely clothing. So no armwear, legwear, hats, topwear, bottomwear, shoes, etc. Pretty bare everywhere.
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Uploaded post #3492365 , which includes character (the one who is kneeling) who isn't wearing any clothing,
but their morning wood (& groin) is covered by a bed cover (which isn't clothing), so following furrypickle's above quoted post
and the nude definition of "depicting at least one character who isn't wearing any clothing at all. ..,."
and so am tagging as nude.

edit: Posting to this thread because feels weird to tag kneeling character in this artwork as nude (rather than mostly_nude)