Topic: Kajinchu

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So apparently Kajinchu has decided he's not all that happy about his NSFW art.

http://brzivy.tumblr.com/post/139351486948/what-happened-to-the-posts-of-the-r-18-art-sorry

A friend translated for me:

(Sorry for writing in Japanese) I've come to feel badly about my R-18 art, so I'm sorry to say that I will be making all of my requested R-18 art private, and completely deleting everything else. If I ever get over this, then I might submit stuff again.

I honestly don't even know if he knows about e621. He might or might not make a takedown request here. I've never seen him write in English so I don't know if the language barrier would prevent him from doing so either. So I don't know what's going to happen from here.

However I do know that I find him to be an excellent artist - probably my favorite - and one of the only artists who did appealing Samurott art. I will miss him quite a lot.

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Would be cool if Kajinchu does know about E621 and will upload their art themselves, even if through a secondary hiding account, so that we can see it here anyways.

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And I thought it was because of those stupid Japanese laws again.
Well, disappointing to see another artist to simply nuke (almost) everything he did

Updated by anonymous

No idea what happened but his pictures on Tumblr seem to be all back now

Edit : Oops, I was looking at Kiriya's Tumblr ( http://krykyky.tumblr.com/ ) They do have a very similar Tumblr name (If you take a 0,1 second look like I did) so I got confused
Well, sadly, this means his pictures are not actually back

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And people wonder why I don't put much faith in artists and their ability to make rational, reasonable decisions.

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Actinium-89 said:
And people wonder why I don't put much faith in artists and their ability to make rational, reasonable decisions.

Try viewing it from their perspective, as difficult as it may seem to understand.

Regardless, on the possibility that he/she files a takedown request, I might as well BID it while I still can.

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GameManiac said:
Try viewing it from their perspective, as difficult as it may seem to understand.

Regardless, on the possibility that he/she files a takedown request, I might as well BID it while I still can.

BID?

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Actinium-89 said:
And people wonder why I don't put much faith in artists and their ability to make rational, reasonable decisions.

Jesus christ. Talk about being selfish as fuck. Who are you to talk such shit about an artist doing what they want with what they created? They don't owe you anything unless you fuckin' payed them directly for it, bud. If you've got a commission and you handed over the dough, sure, but otherwise you're just a butthurt fan with no empathy. Hate to burst your bubble. Creative control is important for artists of any variety. If they're simply completely beholden to fans who don't respect their wishes then art's not a labor of love; it's just a fuckin' job that you're compelled to do for fear of the public outcry if you stop or move in a different direction. The pressure of fame, some call it. It's shit like that that drove Kurt Cobain to suicide. Fanboys/fangirls are sometimes rabid, obsessive creatures who don't think of the person behind the creations they enjoy (case in point: you). They are the ones who can't be trusted because they have no respect and just want more, regardless of the creator's feelings or situation. And I can already hear the pretentious non-argument forming; "But we shared the images around, we made them popular, we did this, we did that" none of that matters. None of it. If the art wasn't given to you in the first place you wouldn't enter the equation at all. Viewer feelings don't fuckin' matter on this issue when the artist is the one who does the work. It hurts, I know, but it's true. Opinions and/or critique of artwork is one thing, but the creative process and the artist's passion or lack thereof for what they're currently doing, as well as the decision to keep doing it or not, not to mention what they do with their own work, is entirely out of fan hands. They are not your slaves.

Thing is, the stuff's already out there to begin with. Fans literally lose NOTHING in this whatsoever. They already have the images saved on their computers or archived on sites and all that. It's all still there. People just have to look for it somewhere else besides the official source. You have no real complaint and are just whining and being a dick to the person who created things you enjoy for no reason. Who's really the "irrational" or "unreasonable" party here? Hint: It's you.

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Actinium-89 said:
And people wonder why I don't put much faith in artists and their ability to make rational, reasonable decisions.

*sigh* you can't really know what its like for them, and besides, I'm sure you've made some bad decisions before. You're making it sound artists are jerks when quite frankly it is the case (the majority of the time).

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xXMAGIKzMushroomXx said:
*sigh* you can't really know what its like for them, and besides, I'm sure you've made some bad decisions before. You're making it sound artists are jerks when quite frankly it is the case (the majority of the time).

quite frankly it is the case

is the case

So artists often times are jerks, or did you forget the "not"?

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If anything bad, sad or stupid, whatever, would personally happen to me, I still wouldn't have the slight idea of nuking everything I did because I find that completely stupid and, as told before, kind of disrespectful to the people who are enjoying your work, and to yourself too. While I'm not a mainstream artist or not even good for that matter, I do happen to draw from time to time, so no, not only viewers/art consumers find this whole ragequit-nuking very annoying

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Ratte

Former Staff

Hi. I'm an artist and I have done something like this before.

To explain, it's a means of trying to get rid of the past by removing the articles associated with it, so one need not look back at a history that pains them anymore. It has nothing to do with those who may have at one point enjoyed the work. Rather, it is for one own's sake to do what they want with what they created, as they are still the creator.

Think of it as a way of letting go, starting over, and having a past be forgotten by both the creator (and hopefully) the viewer. Much of the time it is done because the creator wants people to forget that older material. I cannot blame them.

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Furrin_Gok said:
So artists often times are jerks, or did you forget the "not"?

I forget the "not", although I did put " the majority of the time" because I'm sure there are a few artists who are jerks, although I'm making a very generalised statement and practically anyone can be a jerk, artist or not.

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Slowdive92 said:

Pffhahahaa, oh wow.
I've never respected anyone who destroys content of any real quality without a very good reason. Especially when it's their own content.

It's purely selfish, and given they made it, they don't think about how it affects others when they do that sort of shenanigans with it - and it also goes against my stand that anything put on the internet no longer belongs to you. If you post your work onto the web, it belongs on, and to, the web.

That's part of why e621's takedown policy disgusts me so much. In some regards, it's nice because some people don't want their work here for actually good reasons -- but most tickets I see are just "Someone said a bad thing about my work, so I don't want it here."

For every Harshai or Astropaws, really polite, attentive artists, you have two or three Ozelots or Jasonafexs ready to fuck it up for everyone.

xXMAGIKzMushroomXx said:
*sigh* you can't really know what its like for them, and besides, I'm sure you've made some bad decisions before. You're making it sound artists are jerks when quite frankly it is the case (the majority of the time).

Oh yeah, no, you're totally wrong.
You see, I'm a writer. I've never posted my works online - mostly because of my mindset that "if no one talks about it, no one read it." I also don't have an editor, so everytime I see my work I end up making drastic modifications. You don't let writers edit their own work.

I effectively can't do what I want because I'll ruin it, and everytime I see any of my old work, I hate life a little more and butcher it.

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Okay let's be a little more respectful towards artists' wishes. We don't need to be calling people out as stupid or selfish because they want their art taken down.

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Maybe he had a problem with tumblr, the r-18 pics are still in kajinchu's pixiv.

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That is what I am/was thinking, the pictures on Pixiv are still here but they're censored. From what I heard, the Japan r-18 police guys are pretty serious about that law, so even going on Tumblr to dump your pictures won't cut it

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The horror is over. No more does the looming cloud of misery hang upon the world, for Kajinchu is drawing NSFW again apparently.

I just figured I'd do an update for anyone who was interested. I don't know. Turned out to be a short break from NSFW content so this topic feels a bit like pointless drama in a way, but you know, honestly I'm just happy that I have a chance to see this sort of content from one of my favorite artists again.

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Well, it's possible she was aware of this and realized a lot of people still wanted to see her NSFW work.

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