Topic: Tag Implication: multi_wing -> multi_limb

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For some species like fairies multiple wings are standard. So I can see instances arising where a character should have the "multi_wing" tag, but not the "multi_limb" tag. Basically meaning they have over what we consider to be the standard number of wings, which is two, but for their species that number is standard so they wouldn't get the "multi_limb" tag...you know what I mean?

It would be like if humans had four arms...then we wouldn't consider four arms to be "multi_limb" because that's the natural order. Same goes for tails...it really has to be on a case-by-case basis.

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Dyrone said:
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For some species like fairies multiple wings are standard. So I can see instances arising where a character should have the "multi_wing" tag, but not the "multi_limb" tag. Basically meaning they have over what we consider to be the standard number of wings, which is two, but for their species that number is standard so they wouldn't get the "multi_limb" tag...you know what I mean?

It would be like if humans had four arms...then we wouldn't consider four arms to be "multi_limb" because that's the natural order. Same goes for tails...it really has to be on a case-by-case basis.

Insects by biological standard have six limbs and spiders 8 limbs, non the less they get taged as multi_limb and multi_arm. Might i add not all fairies have multip[le pairs of wings so there is no such thing as a standard with fairies

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Do insect wings count as limbs? Bird and bat wings are analogous to arms like you said, but insect wings are different.

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Ruku said:
Insects by biological standard have six limbs and spiders 8 limbs, non the less they get taged as multi_limb and multi_arm.

Read the wiki please

If a spider is tagged with multi_limb for having 8 legs then that's a bad tag and should be removed. I say this pertaining to feral spiders though...if a spider has been anthropomorphized then it is more comparable to a human, and thus the amount of limbs is out of the ordinary and justifies the "multi_limb" tag.

Ruku said:
Might i add not all fairies have multip[le pairs of wings so there is no such thing as a standard with fairies

There are species of fairies that are specific to certain universes and have specific anatomy. For instance all the fairies in the Disney Fairies series have four wings.

But if you absolutely NEED a real-world example...all dragonflies have four wings, thus you wouldn't give them the "multi-limb" tag because that is their standard anatomy.

BlueDingo said:
Do insect wings count as limbs? Bird and bat wings are analogous to arms like you said, but insect wings are different.

I had to look that up to be sure, and by the dictionary definition of a "limb" they do. basically a "limb" is any part of the body that isn't the head or the main "trunk" of the animal...so insect wings do count.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Dyrone said:
Read the wiki please

If a spider is tagged with multi_limb for having 8 legs then that's a bad tag and should be removed. I say this pertaining to feral spiders though...if a spider has been anthropomorphized then it is more comparable to a human, and thus the amount of limbs is out of the ordinary and justifies the "multi_limb" tag.

Which makes me wonder why 4_wings is implicated to multi_wing. Most winged insects have four wings, so if multi is for 'more than normal', then multi_wing shouldn't apply to them. That's like implicating quadruped to multi_leg.

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Genjar said:
Which makes me wonder why 4_wings is implicated to multi_wing. Most winged insects have four wings, so if multi is for 'more than normal', then multi_wing shouldn't apply to them. That's like implicating quadruped to multi_leg.

The wiki says "more than one pair of wings".
I guess we need some clarification about what multi_body-part really means. If a fictional specie (without any real life parallel) naturally possess 3 heads, does that means "multi_head" shouldn't be used?

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Genjar said:
Which makes me wonder why 4_wings is implicated to multi_wing. Most winged insects have four wings, so if multi is for 'more than normal', then multi_wing shouldn't apply to them. That's like implicating quadruped to multi_leg.

probly because even for insect anthro 1 pair of wings tends to be the standard.

Also here is the original forum which seems to mirror mine in the OP forum #184097 (not much feedback before it was approved)

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O16 said:
The wiki says "more than one pair of wings".
I guess we need some clarification about what multi_body-part really means. If a fictional specie (without any real life parallel) naturally possess 3 heads, does that means "multi_head" shouldn't be used?

The wiki says the only criteria for "multi_head" is that there is more than one. Most of them are like that...usually they just mean "more than the standard configuration". "Multi_limb" seems to be the only one with the caveat that it should not be used on species that naturally posses multiple limbs...that's probably just there to prevent every damn image with a spider or ant from getting a "multi_limb" tag.

I mean when I search multi_limb...personally...I want to see something like this:

post #1016922

Not something like this:

post #1071322

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Just bumping this.
In regards to most multi tags only requiring more then 1 of something while limb based multi tags are species specific, that is because while number of limbs vary greatly among species, other parts of the body are almost always consistent in number among all species. I have updated the wikis to represent that and also made inclusions for insects in regards to insect based wings since both 2 and 4 are common among species. 4_wings was designed to only apply when 4 wings is abnormal not when its natural to the species so i see nothing wrong with the implication, thru i havnt gotten around to cleaning up that wiki yet.

In regards to figures that fall under multi_head, hydra & cerberus. The question at present is kinda open as to if these are truly species or actually just characters who are being mistagged with multiheaded dragons and multiheaded dogs, its worth noting that the latter is implicated to multi_head.

In regards to completely fictional species groups like pokemon or digimon, it'l probably be best to just use your own judgment(such was stated in older versions of some of the multi tags) of similarity to real life species in regards to application of multi_* tags sence it is impossible to account for every single real and fictional species form posible.

And i also reiterate for advocating that multi_tail being implicated to multi_limbs sence anatomically as well as functionally speaking it is another limb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limb_(anatomy)

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