So, I recently finished up the large-scale tagging project I was working on and in moving on to cleaning up MLP species tags have found situations I'm not sure how to handle.

I don't see a problem with keeping equine_humanoid and pegasus tags in images like:

post #733286 post #405345 post #333648 post #323041 post #321540

...where there are multiple animal features (ears, wings, horn, tail, etc...)

But if the only animal feature that the individual has is the wings:

post #321639 post #321560 post #753705 post #759684 post #722566

..it strikes me as simply a human with wings. Despite knowing (from information outside the image) that they are a pegasus in human form, does the image really have enough to tell the difference between bird-person, pegasus-person, or even an angel/mutant-with-wings?

How should images like that be tagged?

Unicorn-humans are easier to make the call on given that a single horn is a pretty dead giveaway to species (even if it does feel a little weird to tag something so it ends up with equine tag despite being just a human with a horn).

As long as the wings are horse-like pegasus-like enough I don't see why not. Animal humanoids will always confound our tagging, so in the interest of simplicity (and our sanity) we might as well just expect them to be borderline relevant to the species tag.

Oh, just a note to anyone who isn't aware. These should actually get humanoidized instead of humanized. This is just to help ensure that they don't accidentally get tagged human.

parasprite said:
As long as the wings are horse-like pegasus-like enough I don't see why not. Animal humanoids will always confound our tagging, so in the interest of simplicity (and our sanity) we might as well just expect them to be borderline relevant to the species tag.

Thanks for that clarification.

parasprite said:
Oh, just a note to anyone who isn't aware. These should actually get humanoidized instead of humanized. This is just to help ensure that they don't accidentally get tagged human.

Yeah, added cleaning that up to my working list as well.

parasprite said:
As long as the wings are horse-like pegasus-like enough

How exactly do you distinguish a pegusus's wings from a bird's wings?

Or, for that matter, from a bat's wing, because flutterbat more often than not gets tagged as a pegasus.

It seems to me that a pegasus is defined as a winged horse. Thus, pegasus wings would be wings on a horse, regardless of what they look like, and if it's not a horse, it's not a pegasus. Therefore those winged humans should not be tagged as a pegasus. Tagging otherwise seems to go against TWYS.

Perhaps there should be a tag for winged_human? I thought "angel" at first, but that's a much more niche tag and I wouldn't want to ruin it's usefulness. Honestly even avian_humanoid seems much more appropriate than pegasus for those images.

parasprite said:
As long as the wings are horse-like pegasus-like enough I don't see why not. Animal humanoids will always confound our tagging, so in the interest of simplicity (and our sanity) we might as well just expect them to be borderline relevant to the species tag.

Oh, just a note to anyone who isn't aware. These should actually get humanoidized instead of humanized. This is just to help ensure that they don't accidentally get tagged human.

I think I may have lost my sanity on that one.

I'll keep that in mind when I get back to tagging MLP images.

Clawdragons said:
How exactly do you distinguish a pegusus's wings from a bird's wings?

Or, for that matter, from a bat's wing, because flutterbat more often than not gets tagged as a pegasus.

It seems to me that a pegasus is defined as a winged horse. Thus, pegasus wings would be wings on a horse, regardless of what they look like, and if it's not a horse, it's not a pegasus. Therefore those winged humans should not be tagged as a pegasus. Tagging otherwise seems to go against TWYS.

Perhaps there should be a tag for winged_human? I thought "angel" at first, but that's a much more niche tag and I wouldn't want to ruin it's usefulness. Honestly even avian_humanoid seems much more appropriate than pegasus for those images.

Sorry parasprite, I have to agree with this one.
People looking for a pegasus won't be looking for a human with wings.

Well, aside from the MLP folks, but they can just search "mlp ~winged_humanoid (or something) ~pegasus

Winged_humanoid seems like an interesting idea.
There's a lot of characters under angel that don't quite fit under that tag, they could instead be moved to winged_humanoid...

I could go for a winged_humanoid approach as well. Much more open-purpose and clearer to define. It would cover cases of feathered, membranous, and other wings together without needing to worry if bird/pegasus/dragon/bat/etc (unless there were other clues within image).

• Human with feathered wings: winged_humanoid
• Human with feathered wings and horse tail: pegasus, equine_humanoid, and winged_humanoid
• Human with feathered wings and beak/feathered tail: avian_humanoid, winged_humanoid

Etc.

Random said:
Sorry parasprite, I have to agree with this one.
People looking for a pegasus won't be looking for a human with wings.

Well, aside from the MLP folks, but they can just search "mlp ~winged_humanoid (or something) ~pegasus

Judging by pegasus -mlp human*, I don't think this is very relevant outside of MLP.

I do like the idea of winged_humanoid though.

parasprite said:
I do like the idea of winged_humanoid though.

I'd be happy to throw adding that tag in my to-do list if this is pursued. Would the approach I commented on work? That is, winged_humanoid in addition to more specific tags if appropriate?

(Additionally, if we do start using this tag then we should probably go ahead and implicate winged_humanoid -> humanoid.)

Heh, there's even already one use of this tag from five years ago: post #83826

Wodahseht said:
I'd be happy to throw adding that tag in my to-do list if this is pursued. Would we use the approach I commented on work? That is, winged_humanoid in addition to more specific tags if appropriate?

(Additionally, if we do start using this tag then we should probably go ahead and implicate winged_humanoid -> humanoid.)

Heh, there's even already one use of this tag from five years ago: post #83826

I'd be happy to help as well, but I have the whole furred_dragon scalie thing to fix first, among other things.