Topic: Organizing/Implementing auto*/self*-tags?

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Chessax

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I was wondering if there would be any interest/use/point in implementing some more auto*-tags, either way they could be looked over, currently we got (in decreasing usage order):

Similarly there are also self*-tags:

  • self_suckle (~61)
  • self_fuck (~53)
  • self_breast_lick (~44)
  • self_fisting (~27)
  • self_bondage
  • (self_harm)
  • self_hug
  • self_gore
  • self_tase (~10)
  • self_impregnation
  • self_mutilation
  • self_grope
  • self_vore (~3)

So what about e.g.:

  • autohandjob
  • autoanal
  • autovaginal
  • autofingering
  • autourethral_fingering
  • autovaginal_fingering
  • autoanal_fingering
  • autofisting
  • autoanal_fisting
  • autovaginal_fisting
  • autoanal_penetration
  • autovaginal_penetration
  • autotail_sucking/autotail_in_mouth/autotail_nom/autotail_bite
  • autoear_biting/autoear_nom
  • autobiting
  • ...

Some of the names are probably not that good, but you get the idea. The question is also if one wants to use "auto" or "self", of course one could alias, but which should be the main tag? Should different ones be used in different cases (just for an example, the commonly accepted self_harm/self_injury and not autoharm)

Probably a ton of aliasing and implication will need to be set up as well with these, tailcocks/pussy, dicknipples and tail_masturbation/tail_sex makes things fun but complicated.

I for one would love the autohandjob/autofingering ones, as you can then specifically search for males/females pleasuring themselves in non-solo posts. Unless there already is a way which has eluded me?

Some related info in forum #156628 (Tribadism, Frottage, Tail_Sex and Penetration tag issues)

Updated by titanmelon

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Chessax said:

Glad to see that one getting used. :)

These are all good, well-established tags.

I'm surprised there aren't more of these, but I'm guessing they are mostly just undertagged (particularly autotonguejob since it's fairly new).

I think this fills a nice niche but I think the "bukkake" part of it may be hurting its adoption as it it doesn't have a very intuitive definition. Bukkake is normally meant as more of a group sex thing and treating it with masturbation just seems kind of off to me. However, I can't really think of a better name for it other than something like excessive_cum_on_self (which seems kind of wordy to me).

(side note: I've moved this one to auto_penis_lick to match with penis_lick)

This one is in kind of a tricky place. Since fellatio tends to get used for just about any oral stimulation of the penis, it's kind of difficult to reinforce this. This seems to be how these tags are currently used

(note that I'm not necessarily suggesting these as real implications, the tree is mostly here to serve as a visual aid)

  • fellatio - Any oral stimulation of the penis
    • Penis inside of mouth - (currently covered with fellatio, however another name for it might be "oral penetration"*)
    • Tongue in contact with the penis, and licking (currently covered with penis_lick)
    • Tongue wrapped around penis - tonguejob (most people seem to consider this distinct from fellatio)
  • autotonguejob - Any oral self-stimulation

*The current usage of oral_penetration/oral_insertion isn't as well established as the other penetration/insertion tags, and they tend to get used interchangeably.

I'm somewhat surprised there are 4 posts, but I'm definitely not surprised that they are all oral. It's worth mentioning that oral_knotting and knotting both imply fellatio/sex, so it's probably better to have this tag around for that reason. I don't think splitting it into auto_oral_knotting, etc. would really accomplish much since there are so little of them out there.

I could take it or leave it. I don't mind it being around, but it's not a high priority for me. I'm somewhat surprised that multi_cock masturbation doesn't seem to have many more of them.

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The self_* tags I'm going to have to break up a bit differently:

I don't know of an equivalent tag for these at the moment, but it's nice to know that they exist.

So...basically bound? It was almost all tagged by one user, so I think this one is safe to just retag.

I don't even.

These could probably be condensed together somewhat. I'm thinking self_gore could probably be kept though; there's definitely enough of it to tag.

So what about e.g.:

  • autohandjob
  • autofingering
  • autofisting

I for one would love the autohandjob/autofingering ones, as you can then specifically search for males/females pleasuring themselves in non-solo posts. Unless there already is a way which has eluded me?

Nope. This would definitely fill a missing gap. The masturbation tag is currently a mix of "masturbation + anal/vaginal_fingering" and "masturbation" (I haven't seen this get tagged with handjob).

I'd support this tag if others will, but it's probably going to need a hefty tagging project before it's going to be reliable enough for searching. Still, I think it's worth bringing up.

  • autoanal
  • autovaginal
  • autovaginal_fingering
  • autourethral_fingering
  • autoanal_fingering
  • autoanal_fisting
  • autovaginal_fisting
  • autoanal_penetration
  • autovaginal_penetration

Eh...These are all probably too specific for people to care about tagging them. Particularly since penetration/fingering/fisting don't actually imply sex, so they would be fine to use with autopenetration/autofingering/autofisting (e.g., vaginal_fingering autofingering).

  • autotail_sucking/autotail_in_mouth/autotail_nom/autotail_bite
  • autoear_biting/autoear_nom
  • autobiting

I don't think that making a distinction between these various tags and their non-auto counterparts would really be worth the trouble of retagging them constantly. However, a tag like tail_in_own_mouth could help narrow searches without adding in a whole new set of obscure tags.

The question is also if one wants to use "auto" or "self", of course one could alias, but which should be the main tag? Should different ones be used in different cases (just for an example, the commonly accepted self_harm/self_injury and not autoharm)

The self* tags seem to be getting depreciated in favor of the auto* tags, but I'm generally against using auto* for the non-sex related tags since they will probably just fall into obscurity anyways.

Updated by anonymous

Circeus

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On auto_penis_lick, why not just using autofelaltio with penis_lick (that tag isn't implicated to anything anyway)? I'm pretty sure that's what most people are doing anyway (I use that combination myself).

And if we're having autoanal/vaginal, you might as well have auto-oral (because "autooral" is silly) and use that with penis_lick if you don't like penis_lick + autofellatio.

Updated by anonymous

Chessax

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I guess I should get back on this since I was the one bringing it up.

First I just want to point out the reason I brought this up in the first place is because of the major masturbation tags like autohandjob/-fingering/-penetration/-fisting. The rest of the tags are simply to try to get some reaction out of people to see what you guys think about the whole thing.

parasprite said: (re: autobukkake)
I think this fills a nice niche but I think the "bukkake" part of it may be hurting its adoption as it it doesn't have a very intuitive definition. Bukkake is normally meant as more of a group sex thing and treating it with masturbation just seems kind of off to me. However, I can't really think of a better name for it other than something like excessive_cum_on_self (which seems kind of wordy to me).

Yeah, I don't really like the name "bukkake" in this context either, but in some ways it's the simplest way to describe the action. Though I guess your suggestion of excessive_cum_on_self, or similar, would work.

parasprite said:
(side note: I've moved this one to auto_penis_lick to match with penis_lick)

Nice, I love consistency :)

parasprite said:
This one is in kind of a tricky place. Since fellatio tends to get used for just about any oral stimulation of the penis, it's kind of difficult to reinforce this. This seems to be how these tags are currently used

(note that I'm not necessarily suggesting these as real implications, the tree is mostly here to serve as a visual aid)

  • fellatio - Any oral stimulation of the penis
    • Penis inside of mouth - (currently covered with fellatio, however another name for it might be "oral penetration"*)
    • Tongue in contact with the penis, and licking (currently covered with penis_lick)
    • Tongue wrapped around penis - tonguejob (most people seem to consider this distinct from fellatio)
  • autotonguejob - Any oral self-stimulation

*The current usage of oral_penetration/oral_insertion isn't as well established as the other penetration/insertion tags, and they tend to get used interchangeably.

Don't see anything really wrong with this. I usually like the oral_penetration/oral_insertion tags despite their state, and I'm gonna be very bold and suggest autoblowjob in line with autohandjob, not saying it's perfect, but a penny for your thoughts?

parasprite said: (re: autoknotting)
I'm somewhat surprised there are 4 posts, but I'm definitely not surprised that they are all oral. It's worth mentioning that oral_knotting and knotting both imply fellatio/sex, so it's probably better to have this tag around for that reason. I don't think splitting it into auto_oral_knotting, etc. would really accomplish much since there are so little of them out there.

I could take it or leave it. I don't mind it being around, but it's not a high priority for me. I'm somewhat surprised that multi_cock masturbation doesn't seem to have many more of them.

Agrees, it's a minor niche, but doesn't hurt being around.

parasprite said:
The self_* tags I'm going to have to break up a bit differently:

I don't know of an equivalent tag for these at the moment, but it's nice to know that they exist.

About your examples, are those really penetration? I've been tagging quite a few autopenetration pics, but (I hope) I have only tagged those showing actual penetration, while your examples only suggest it.

If you wanna get technical about it, "auto" is a prefix, so it should probably be autovore, but @Circeus made a valid point about autooral. I don't mind that but I can see how it feels strange with e.g. two "o"s in a row.

parasprite said: (re: self_bondage)
So...basically bound? It was almost all tagged by one user, so I think this one is safe to just retag.

No comment.

parasprite said: (re: self_grope)
I don't even.

Haha, I know, I was like "Nuu! Stop touching myself!"

parasprite said: (re: auto_gore/self_harm/self_mutilation)
These could probably be condensed together somewhat. I'm thinking self_gore could probably be kept though; there's definitely enough of it to tag.

No real comment about this, all I feel is that self_harm is less "gory" than much other gore.

parasprite said: (re autohandjob/-fisting/-fingering)
Nope. This would definitely fill a missing gap. The masturbation tag is currently a mix of "masturbation + anal/vaginal_fingering" and "masturbation" (I haven't seen this get tagged with handjob).

I'd support this tag if others will, but it's probably going to need a hefty tagging project before it's going to be reliable enough for searching. Still, I think it's worth bringing up.

As long as these kind of general masturbation tags go through I can die happy :D. I'd be happy to tag, though it would take me years (and probably longer due to exhaustion and boredom) to get anywhere at all with tagging limits and whatnot.

I also stumbled across this underused tag: vaginal_masturbation, something to expand on? We do have anal_masturbation after all. It might help in my dream of getting sexual acts tagged in non solo pictures to fill the gap of non vaginal fingering, if we differentiate between fingering and "rubbing" (didn't even know this tag existed).

parasprite said: (re: very specific masturbation tags)
Eh...These are all probably too specific for people to care about tagging them. Particularly since penetration/fingering/fisting don't actually imply sex, so they would be fine to use with autopenetration/autofingering/autofisting (e.g., vaginal_fingering autofingering).

Ah, yeah, didn't quite think about that. I can imagine how hard it would be to get people to either tag with, or even search, using these tags as there would probably simply be too many variations of them.

parasprite said: (re various other auto* tags)
I don't think that making a distinction between these various tags and their non-auto counterparts would really be worth the trouble of retagging them constantly. However, a tag like tail_in_own_mouth could help narrow searches without adding in a whole new set of obscure tags.

The self* tags seem to be getting depreciated in favor of the auto* tags, but I'm generally against using auto* for the non-sex related tags since they will probably just fall into obscurity anyways.

Yeah, there's quite literally a ton of stupid auto/self tags that could be implemented that would serve little to no use whatsoever. Some might be more interesting than others, but haven't really looked closer at these. tail_in_own_mouth sounds pretty nice though, even though there's probably only a handful of posts excluding ouroboros.

Circeus said:
On auto_penis_lick, why not just using autofelaltio with penis_lick (that tag isn't implicated to anything anyway)? I'm pretty sure that's what most people are doing anyway (I use that combination myself).

And if we're having autoanal/vaginal, you might as well have auto-oral (because "autooral" is silly) and use that with penis_lick if you don't like penis_lick + autofellatio.

I totally see your point and as said some of these tags are probably not required or wanted. The general idea is to be able to specifically search for things in posts which are not true solo posts. In your example: a character may be engaged in autofellatio but not actually licking themselves, while a second character sitting next to them does the licking on a third. Hence searching penis_lick + autofellatio in the hopes of finding a character licking their own penis is mixed with unwanted posts. This example might not be so big, but there has been countless of times where I've tried searching for various kinds of more common masturbation in group shots and finding a lot more than I wanted.

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