Topic: Shiron_(artist) <-> いぷしろ <-> Omikuro

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

chdgs

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Pixiv artist "いぷしろ", known on e621 as Shiron_(artist) (to disambiguate from Shiron from Legendz) posts on FurAffinity under the name "Omikuro".

Some works crossposted on both sites. Very similar styles on works exclusive to either site.

I also made a query with the artist on FurAffinity to verify. (His reply is below my post. Broken reply-tree.)

http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=1689025
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/omikuro

There have been few instances of Omikuro as a tag, but most uploaders are aware of this being Shiron_(artist) and tag as such upon uploading. Other users and I have changed Omikuro uploads them as they came along to Shiron_(artist) to group them with the majority of his works already tagged as such.

Last time I heard, e621 favors the Romanized usernames of artists as chosen by the artists themselves (usually on FurAffinity, Tumblr, or Twitter) in lieu of names comprised of Japanese text (often Pixiv). Akin to Sasamix with his name "ささみ" on Pixiv, but "Sasamix" on Twitter and FurAffinity. (Granted, "ささみ" pretty much translates to that anyway.)

So I propose the following tag alias:
shiron_(artist) &rarr; omikuro

And maybe also
いぷしろ &rarr; omikuro
Unless "いぷしろ" is something rather general. Google Translate says it translates to "Ipushiro" (which is probably where "Shiron" comes from). [EDIT: actually, we got "Shiron" from one of the artist's previous display names on Pixiv, "しろん". "Ipushiro" seems to mean "Epsilon".]

But I often find that such translators are not a reliable reference. As usual, I would very much prefer someone more savvy than me with Japanese language and translating to make this judgement.

Updated by user 59725

Sounds good

And maybe also
いぷしろ → omikuro
Unless "いぷしろ" is something rather general

As I've mentioned a whole bunch of times on various occasions, aliasing literal kana readings to non-literal readings is asking for trouble later on if it ever turns out there's another artist/franchise/whatever using the same kana

いぷしろ will be read as ipushiro (a translator program being accurate?!?) 99% of the time for current purposes, and aliasing phonetically-unrelated readings to it (omikuro/shiro) serves to make things even harder to accurately keep track of than they already are in the long term

With all that said though, it's much, much simpler to alias related artist aliases to each other so there aren't ~3-5 different names for the same person/group and keeping track of that becomes even more of a pain than the former case

My point is this:

We need some kind of way to link artist aliases to each other without literally aliasing them to each other

I thought that was the purpose of the 'Other Names' field on Artist pages were for, but it's not readily apparent.

The artist pages still don't seem to be linkable to the wiki entries, and any aliases have their separate pages as well

example: https://e621.net/artist/show/4394

Clicking on one of the links in the Other Names field either takes you to a separate profile for the alias (name), or to create one

Other than checking the url link, there doesn't seem to be a way to know at a glance whether the page exists or not

Additionally, all the alt names with pages link to the same posts. i.e. there's no distinction between works released under the different names; everything's bunched together

Going back to the original question in the topic:

As was demonstrated previously, if no one else has objections about aliasing unrelated names to each other for the sake of convenience over long-term compatibility (いぷしろ → omikuro), then there's little point in me repeating the same thing each time this is brought up, and we should just do whatever's easiest and makes the most sense in the short term while choosing to deal with the long term issues whenever/if ever they happen

Updated by anonymous

chdgs

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Righty-o.

What about Shiron_(artist) <-> Omikuro?

Older name of customizable Pixiv username versus permanent-per-account username on FurAffinity.

chdgs said:
Last time I heard, e621 favors the Romanized usernames of artists as chosen by the artists themselves (usually on FurAffinity, Tumblr, or Twitter) in lieu of names comprised of Japanese text (often Pixiv). Akin to Sasamix with his name "ささみ" on Pixiv, but "Sasamix" on Twitter and FurAffinity. (Granted, "ささみ" pretty much translates to that anyway.)

Another example is Kikurage. "きくらげ" on Pixiv, "Kikurage" on Tumblr and FurAffinity (the tag we use for their art). Except, just like Sasamix, "きくらげ" pretty much translates to "Kikurage". No idea who/what a "kikurage" is.

I want to emphasize I don't know diddly about translating Japanese proper nouns. So thank you and any user for their input on the matter because I'm just spitballing here.

Updated by anonymous

Genjar

Former Staff

Alias both to omikuro.
It's the nick the artist uses on Furaffinity, so it's the most logical one for us to use. No need to translate anything ourselves in this case.

Updated by anonymous

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