I was originally thinking of suggesting an alias of drake -> dragon since, on the surface, it seems like it falls under dragon anyways, but then I ran across drake_(species)...which confuses things slightly. I realize there may be multiple uses for the word "drake".

1. Dragon
2. A male duck
3. A name

The third is probably how drake_(species) came about, but now that they are both listed as species tags I'm not exactly sure what the best course is for these.

So far I'm thinking:

• dragon
• drake or drake_(species) (alias or implication)
• netherdrake - Something specific to world of Warcraft
• furdrake - Which is...well I'm not really sure, but I'm pretty sure it should be a species. Last picture tagged with it is 5 months old.

Thoughts?

parasprite said:

Thoughts?

I think drakes are generally a subset of dragons that don't have wings.

However it's also a decently common name for a person, and it's also the term for a male duck so...

I'd say drake_(species) for the dragon, implicated to dragon maybe.
Then it would be drake_(species) + furred_dragon for furred ones?

Drake in relation to ducks shouldn't be a tag, I think, since gender specific terms are discouraged.

Or... wait. The more common use should be the default, right?
I think there are more wingless dragon pictures than characters named just Drake.

tl:dr: I think Drake should be implicated to Dragon, characters named Drake should be Drake_(character), and duck drakes should removed.

Random said:
I think drakes are generally a subset of dragons that don't have wings.

Amusingly, in Magic: The Gathering, Drakes are mid-sized flying creatures separate from dragon by having winged arms. They have wings for forelimbs, but dragons have separate wings and forelimbs.

I think only one of the two pictures with duck drake is actually referencing the duck, the other a hybrid maybe? It's hard to tell. It's obviously not a huge issue, but it is in the mix and it's nice having everything up front. Interestingly drake = duck and drake = dragon apparently share different etymologies.

The main issue here is really the character names. Since it's one of those super obvious names you can give to dragon characters it ends up being extremely common. The good news is even if we imply drake -> dragon, at least most of them will still end up in dragon (lol).

There are actually a few character tags for drake already:

• drake_(zerofox)
• drake_(character) (the generic one)
• drake_(las_lindas)
• And a few more

What I'm not sure of, is whether "drake" is a relevant species or not. Since on the surface it's basically just a dragon.

parasprite said:
I think only one of the two pictures with duck drake is actually referencing the duck, the other a hybrid maybe?

Wrong. Look in the bushes of the one, there's a drake named Pip hiding there. It has nothing to do with male ducks, as that would be a species specific gender tag.

Furrin_Gok said:
Wrong. Look in the bushes of the one, there's a drake named Pip hiding there. It has nothing to do with male ducks, as that would be a species specific gender tag.

Doesn't mean species-specific gender tags don't get tagged occasionally, just this isn't one of them that people seem to know of.

Yeah, I think we should do away with that tag.
In fiction, drakes are often a type of protodragon. Smaller and usually dumber than typical dragons. But those traits don't mesh well with twys..

I'm not sure if we can alias it to dragon, though. There's a lot of drakes that should be tagged as wyvern instead.

Genjar said:
Yeah, I think we should do away with that tag.
In fiction, drakes are often a type of protodragon. Smaller and usually dumber than typical dragons. But those traits don't mesh well with twys..

I'm not sure if we can alias it to dragon, though. There's a lot of drakes that should be tagged as wyvern instead.

As far as e621 tagging goes, MTG drakes should probably be tagged wyvern then...

what about drake from drake n josh

memeboy said:
what about drake from drake n josh

It's really unlikely that pictures from that show will end up here.

But it could be easily fixed by using drake_bell.

Genjar said:
Yeah, I think we should do away with that tag.
In fiction, drakes are often a type of protodragon. Smaller and usually dumber than typical dragons. But those traits don't mesh well with twys..

I'm not sure if we can alias it to dragon, though. There's a lot of drakes that should be tagged as wyvern instead.

This ^

memeboy said:
what about drake from drake n josh

Or Drake from the Hoenn Pokemon League

Genjar said:
Yeah, I think we should do away with that tag.
In fiction, drakes are often a type of protodragon. Smaller and usually dumber than typical dragons. But those traits don't mesh well with twys..

I'm not sure if we can alias it to dragon, though. There's a lot of drakes that should be tagged as wyvern instead.

That's... not the definition of Wyvern I was aware of. Here's how I know them:

• Dragon: Six limbs. Four of them are legs/arms, the other two are wings.

Drake: Four limbs. The rear two are legs, while the front two are wings.
Wyvern: Two limbs. These limbs are wings that also function as legs, similar to when a bat crawls around on its wings.

• Wyrm: Varying limb count, but no wings. Flies just by slithering through the air. See haku_(spirited_away), shenron, or rayquaza. Not to be confused with mushu who is just a wingless dragon.

LittleBaconBits said:
Or Drake from the Hoenn Pokemon League

That can use drake_(pokemon).

Furrin_Gok said:
That's... not the definition of Wyvern I was aware of. Here's how I know them:

• Dragon: Six limbs. Four of them are legs/arms, the other two are wings.
• Drake: Four limbs. The rear two are legs, while the front two are wings.
• Wyvern: Two limbs. These limbs are wings that also function as legs, similar to when a bat crawls around on its wings.

I've never heard of that definition of a wyvern. Four limbs is definitely more common, at least by Google image search: https://www.google.fi/search?q=wyvern&source=lnms&tbm=isch. Wings, and no arms (forelegs). Generally bulkier and more feral than dragons.

Wouldn't one with two limbs just be some kind of winged serpent? Only examples that I can think of are Quetzalcoatl (and Coatl from D&D), and various flying snakes from Baltic mythologies.

Again, agree with Genjar :P

Genjar said:
I've never heard of that definition of a wyvern. Four limbs is definitely more common, at least by Google image search: https://www.google.fi/search?q=wyvern&source=lnms&tbm=isch. Wings, and no arms (forelegs). Generally bulkier and more feral than dragons.

Wouldn't one with two limbs just be some kind of winged serpent? Only examples that I can think of are Quetzalcoatl (and Coatl from D&D), and various flying snakes from Baltic mythologies.

wyrm They're rare, but it exists.

Did some research on Drakes, and I'm not sure what I was thinking at the time. It was, in fact, Wyverns. I guess Drake was just a synonym for Dragons.