Why isn't there a SEGA tag? There's a Nintendo, Namco and Capcom tag, but the second best known video game company doesn't have its own tag. It's not as if there isn't enough SEGA art here, as there's the Sonic, Bayonetta, and quite a few other series.

I believe there used to be a Sega tag, but it seems a bit redundant when it'll be used almost exclusively on Sonic the Hedgehog.

At least Nintendo, Namco, and Capcom have far more diverse properties that e621 has artwork of.

Sega's actually in charge of quite a few modern franchises nowadays, though there's still the older ones that were Sega system exclusives (Well, until the sega collection discs for other consoles were released). Bayonetta, for example, is a Sega franchise.

Bayonetta is a Sega franchise, yes, but it has 90 posts compared to the Sonic series' >19000. It'd make up less than half a percent of a Sega tag.

Would a SEGA tag be useful for searching or blacklisting?

Kaeetayel said:
Bayonetta is a Sega franchise, yes, but it has 90 posts compared to the Sonic series' >19000. It'd make up less than half a percent of a Sega tag.

Anything that has more than 10 posts is definitely a viable reason. We handle implications based on something having more than three posts.

animperfectpatsy said:
Would a SEGA tag be useful for searching or blacklisting?

About as useful as the Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft tags, and people wanted those around.

Never though about Bayonetta as sega franchise actually. They do have some strong names, but there's not much furry related stuff from them.

Furrin_Gok said:
About as useful as the Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft tags, and people wanted those around.

With Sony there's not many sly, crash, ratchet, etc. images, eh? Only physical consoles showing up.

I would almost say that sega would be more useful tag than microsoft is.

Mario69 said:
Never though about Bayonetta as sega franchise actually. They do have some strong names, but there's not much furry related stuff from them.

With Sony there's not many sly, crash, ratchet, etc. images, eh? Only physical consoles showing up.

I would almost say that sega would be more useful tag than microsoft is.

Well, there's certainly enough series starring humanoid and furry characters, and though there isn't a lot of rule 34 for some of them necessarily, there's enough Safe art to compensate.

Mario69 said:
Never though about Bayonetta as sega franchise actually. They do have some strong names, but there's not much furry related stuff from them.

Altered Beast, Alex Kidd, Tempo (Surprised these aren't on e6), Bug!, Dinosaur King... Sega's got quite a batch of games.

With Sony there's not many sly, crash, ratchet, etc. images, eh? Only physical consoles showing up.

Sly Cooper (Series), Crash Bandicoot (Series), and Ratchet and Clank have plenty of images. Heck, even Spyro the Dragon could be considered a Sony series; I'm really not sure why the admins said no in forum #190209

parasprite said:
Denied because we really don't care about what company owns Spyro. Company tags are generally only used for when the company has a lot of brand exposure as a franchise in and of itself, like nintendo, disney, and marvel.

Really, the company that is KNOWN for all of these games is Sony.

Furrin_Gok said:
I'm really not sure why the admins said no in forum #190209

Really, the company that is KNOWN for all of these games is Sony.

For what it's worth, sony makes for a better blanket tag than the others mentioned in that thread.

parasprite said:
For what it's worth, sony makes for a better blanket tag than the others mentioned in that thread.

Yeah, and I was surprised when I looked and noticed that before quoting V:

After somebody linked this thread, I came back to check it, and realized it never really went anywhere. No approvals, denials or even pendings. At least when it comes to sonic, wouldn't Sega be the well known company behind him? There's also Echo the Dolphin, though that may just be me.

:I I was going to go hunting iDog images and suggest an implication to sega but apparently it's still a non-tag. I know Rainbow Dash is going around doing a bunch of stuff, but seeing as this one isn't an actual listed alias/implication suggestion, but a stray thread (and necessarily so since you can't suggest unaliases officially), I think it may get missed.

It's been denied already. More than once, if I remember right.
We don't need a copyright tag that'd consist mostly of Sonic, with couple of completely unrelated characters thrown in the mix.

Genjar said:
It's been denied already. More than once, if I remember right.
We don't need a copyright tag that'd consist mostly of Sonic, with couple of completely unrelated characters thrown in the mix.

Where do Kirby, Mario, and Donkey Kong find themselves related to one another, outside of all belonging to Nintendo? Sure, there's Smash Bros., but SEGA would have eventually gone there with their Fighters MEGAMIX game had they not died out of the console wars, so let's ignore that one.
SEGA has big name games to them other than Sonic, after all, they're just not majorly present here. Perhaps drawing attention through the existence of the tag would bring more art.

Existence of one bad tag doesn't justify creating more of them. But Nintendo games, at least, tend to have a common theme: family-friendly games.

You think that Nintendo should be aliased away, too?

I think all publisher tags should be aliased away beause:

• the posts within them have nothing in common, or it's entirely coincidential
• the publishers would not be happy seeing their names here
• no one is going to fap to a publisher name

Instead, games, and game series tags should be used, as those at least have some common lore.

There are a few useful ones. Disney comes immediately to mind.

Delian said:
I think all publisher tags should be aliased away beause:

• the posts within them have nothing in common, or it's entirely coincidential
• the publishers would not be happy seeing their names here
• no one is going to fap to a publisher name

Instead, games, and game series tags should, as those at least have some common lore.

I disagree entirely for the simple reason that sometimes people see something, just a brief glimpse, but they want porn of it, or of a character in it.

And if it's a Nintendo game but they aren't sure which one? Search Nintendo! Then they can browse through and narrow their search from there.

Same goes for Sony, Disney, and others. Publishers paste their iconography everywhere, everyone knows what is Nintendo, what is Sony, what is Disney.

Instead of having to look around for a full commercial or wait for it to come back on people should be able to just search one of these publishers and find the IP associated with them.

Not only that such a specifically broad tag lets people find ALL the content of that publisher which helps people "explore" the content and find new content that may be to their interests (after all, if this publisher pushes this kind of content then they may push similar things or have similar art styles in their other work.)

Just games and just game series require prior knowledge of such things to search, it's one of the reasons why that one site that tags exclusively by series is such a damn mess in terms of tagging.

Keep including all the tags, publisher AND game/gameseries.

AnotherDay said:
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Thanks! Honestly I don't get why people want to invalidate valid tags. The more content we have to search with, the better. Know there's a bug character from a certain platform but not sure of the name? insect sega would be a great way to find TEMPO or Bug! characters. Forgot Ecco's name? Sega dolphin.

Thing is, yes, there aren't as many images to these other games besides Sonic the Hedgehog, but that's exactly why the tag should exist. Games that people aren't as aware of are exactly the ones they'd use the tag to find.

AnotherDay said:
And if it's a Nintendo game but they aren't sure which one? Search Nintendo! Then they can browse through and narrow their search from there.

I think you're mistaking gaming platforms with publishers. There's no tags for gaming platforms here.

Delian said:
I think you're mistaking gaming platforms with publishers. There's no tags for gaming platforms here.

SEGA is a publisher, just like Nintendo. I fail to see why you have a problem with this.

Eh, forget it. Fine, let's tag all the publishers.

The main reason I changed my mind is the fact that copyrighted characters need to point to the copyright holder.

When a tag has been repeatedly denied, maybe it's time to move on and stop bringing it up. Contrary to what you might believe, the admins generally know what they're doing. We don't need to rehash the same arguments every year.

Genjar said:
When a tag has been repeatedly denied, maybe it's time to move on and stop bringing it up. Contrary to what you might believe, the admins generally know what they're doing. We don't need to rehash the same arguments every year.

Could you link me to the denials? I haven't seen them. Just delays and requests for more input.

Furrin_Gok said:
Could you link me to the denials? I haven't seen them. Just delays and requests for more input.

It was brought up in the committee back when the Bayonetta implication was open. The consensus was that we don't add tags like sega.

And tags such as sony are only for the brand hardware and logos.

Genjar said:
It was brought up in the committee back when the Bayonetta implication was open. The consensus was that we don't add tags like sega.

And tags such as sony are only for the brand hardware and logos.

Not asking for something just because it's been denied multiple times is a terrible reason to stop asking for something.

Continued support of an idea, especially over years, shows just how much people actually want this to happen. It's continued pressure by the people that actually use, not run, the site, that says they think this is a good idea.

Now some users may not be the most educated on all subjects, but contrary to what you might believe the majority of users are not idiots and know what they want and why it's a good idea to have it.

I've already seen some good ideas here, I can only imagine previous denials have had good ideas supporting the reason behind wanting this as well.

Furthermore, as history has proven, just because the people in charge decide something isn't going to happen at that point in time doesn't mean it isn't viable or won't happen later. Continuing to ask for something is the user's way of showing that there's still interest in this thing.

Just because something has been repeatedly denied doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means that people need to keep periodically asking for it to show that they're still interested. The administration has changed quite a bit over time, hell at least one of the key admins of the past is now permabanned.

Opinions of what is good and isn't are just like people, they change over time. Revisiting a topic to show support periodically isn't a bad thing.

If it were then charr dickgirls would still be considered males. While I brought that point up initially someone else, some years later, brought it up again and the administration agreed with them about it where they completely shut me down a couple years earlier. Yet that's just one example of persistence affecting change on this site.

And some times, beating an idea to death makes people sick and tired of hearing about it, leading to knee-jerk rejection. :P