Topic: CISPA is back folks...

Posted under General

http://boingboing.net/2013/02/18/cispa-is-back-worst-internet.html

The worst Internet regulation bill since SOPA/PIPA has reared it's ugly head once again and by no surprise it was the House Republicans who decided to bring it back as a piece a legislation in hopes of getting it passed through Congress. Couldn't have picked a worse time considering the Sequester coming up on March 1st.

Once again it's up to us to spread the word and stop CISPA from becoming the law of the land in the United States from destroying the Internet. Last year Congress tried to pass CISPA into law during the 2012 Election Primaries around the same time and went to great lengths to pass it behind closed doors even internationally via treaty which ultimately failed.

Here's an Official White House.gov Petition against this:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-cispa-cyber-intelligence-sharing-and-protection-act/19sQhBpy

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http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/14895-cispa-20-say-goodbye-to-our-constitutional-rights

Part of the reason SOPA and PIPA were booted from Congress was the overwhelming citizen mobilization against it, but also because companies like Google, Firefox, Tumblr, Twitter, Wikipedia and other giant Internet businesses realized the legislation would devastate their enterprises.

Unfortunately, this time around, we won't have these companies fighting on our side because CISPA grants them immunity from lawsuits and has provided them with enough assurance that it will not affect their business in any significant way.

We're gonna have to fight harder this time.

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Dogenzaka said:
We're gonna have to fight harder this time.

Road to Tycho will be long and not easy.
And still, Uprising is inevitable.

Glory to NLR!! ...sorry.

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Isn't this whole singning stuff is only restricted to residents of the United States?

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Xch3l said:
Isn't this whole singning stuff is only restricted to residents of the United States?

Was internationally as well, or something related is, anyway.

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scary for sure, but I don't think it stands a better chance getting passed. Even with assurances that the tech-giants stay un-affected, many of these are still ideologically set against it, and having spoken out against SOPA before, are aware of the expectation from the public eye to follow through.
I'm worried about momentum falling flat. People tend to get enthused about this kind of thing once. Fortunately a very strong message was sent the first time around and most politicians know that siding with bills like this is going to make them unpopular very quickly.
IF this gets shot down the same way SOPA was, it could be the last nail in the coffin for bills of it's ilk.
So here's hoping!

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Another one? Really?

Are they ever going to stop with this bullshit?

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I'm beginning to see why "Destroy the internet/technology" is a valid option in Deus Ex.

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Well think about it this way, you are fighting a battle were one side is trying to validate a cause when a lot of what is done, is done illegally...(pirating, cp, etc)
Its kind of like the battle for marijuana legality, the most obvious reason they support marijuana use is because they have most likely used it at some point, making them a criminal.(sorta)
So, although its most likely not going to pass, the public has very little say in what is the overall outcome.

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720p said:
Are they ever going to stop with this bullshit?

No. The Republicans have much more stamina than the overall mass of Internet users, and a greater attention span, too. That's one of the biggest issues with our partisan political system: The conservatives are the ones more interested in politics and more likely to vote, on average. That's part of the reason why the "get out and vote" campaigns are stronger from the Democratic party.

(Jayfeather) said:
the most obvious reason they support marijuana use is because they have most likely used it at some point

I just want the tax money that would come from legal marijuana sales, like there is for alcohol and cigarettes.

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Step 1: Take all politicians
Step 2: Put them in a single place
Step 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwlNPhn64TA
Step 4: Real life become a mix between Fallout, Borderlands and Left 4 Dead, but without zombies, mutations and the fun
Step 5: Extinction of humanity

More seriously: They are trying to pass this kind of law for years, so we must tell them to stop messing with our liberties. George Orwell warned us enough on this.

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Zenti said:
Step 4: Real life become a mix between Fallout, Borderlands and Left 4 Dead, but without zombies, mutations and the fun
Step 5: Extinction of humanity

That would mean politicians keep this from happening.
It should look more like:

Step 4: Everybody's life improves.

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(Jayfeather) said:
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Its kind of like the battle for marijuana legality, the most obvious reason they support marijuana use is because they have most likely used it at some point, making them a criminal.(sorta)
...

Less so nowadays, there are a number of non-user sorts getting on board since it adds to our economy, hurts drug cartels, and is as or less harmful than other already legal drugs i.e. alcohol/tobacco etc.

I personally fully support efforts to legalize drugs in general, and marijuana in particular and have never done anything more than occasional social drinking.

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Fucking grandpas stuck in the 20th century trying to run the world. That's what I think. How many of them have even used a computer just for fun, like, dunno, 90% of the internet?
It may have started in U.S.A., but by no means does the government of that country have the right to boss the global no-man's-land that the internet is today.
Sometimes, with all these bills being flung around nowadays, I think they're scared. They've seen that power is drifting away from the government and into the hands of the people of Earth as a global collective nationalism is becoming a fading force.
Keep up the fight, the future is in the hands of humanity.

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ArdesCadaver said:
Fucking grandpas stuck in the 20th century trying to run the world. That's what I think. How many of them have even used a computer just for fun, like, dunno, 90% of the internet?
It may have started in U.S.A., but by no means does the government of that country have the right to boss the global no-man's-land that the internet is today.
Sometimes, with all these bills being flung around nowadays, I think they're scared. They've seen that power is drifting away from the government and into the hands of the people of Earth as a global collective nationalism is becoming a fading force.
Keep up the fight, the future is in the hands of humanity.

Aww, look at it: It thinks the people have any kind of real power. That's adorable.

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Foobaria said:
Aww, look at it: It thinks the people have any kind of real power. That's adorable.

It would be funny to see how quick the government shat itself if we all stopped paying taxes at the same time. That includes collecting sales tax as well. Their diapers would be so heavy.

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Dogenzaka said:
It would be funny to see how quick the government shat itself if we all stopped paying taxes at the same time. That includes collecting sales tax as well. Their diapers would be so heavy.

The problem is not taxes: Taxes are one of the most important and necessary things to any functional nation. The problem is waste and graft once the funds are acquired. Get rid of most of the skimming off the top, and you could cut taxes almost in half while making massive debt reductions at the same time.

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Foobaria said:
Get rid of most of the skimming off the top, and you could cut taxes almost in half while making massive debt reductions at the same time.

[CITATION NEEDED]

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Foobaria said:
Aww, look at it: It thinks the people have any kind of real power. That's adorable.

This. Plus many of them seem shocked too when they discover the internet is for porn,and they give a whole speech about porn on the internet and such.

The internet is for porn.

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Axelfox said:
The internet is for porn.

And for downloading free music.

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But mostly free music and dumbass youtube videos. And porn every other day.

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Dogenzaka said:
But mostly free music and dumbass youtube videos. And porn every other day.

Every other day.

Fucking casuals.

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therabbidwanker said:
Every other day.

Fucking casuals.

When you work your muscles, you need to give them a day to recover to get stronger. That's how you get strong hands and forearms.

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Dogenzaka said:
When you work your muscles, you need to give them a day to recover to get stronger. That's how you get strong hands and forearms.

How hard do you frigging masturbate?

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therabbidwanker said:
How hard do you frigging masturbate?

Like the sun's gravitational pull on the planets. Go hard or go home.

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Dogenzaka said:
Like the sun's gravitational pull on the planets. Go hard or go home.

Wiser words hath never been spoken.

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I'm checking the site's FAQ to see if I can sign, because I don't live in the US (y'all probably know where I am from HAW HAW! I MADE YOU LOOK!). The only thing that gives me a hint that I can is this section:

Who can participate in the We the People platform?

Anyone 13 or older can create or sign a petition on WhiteHouse.gov. In order to participate in the We the People platform on WhiteHouse.gov, users must create a WhiteHouse.gov account and verify their email address.

I'm older than 13 (that's a fact, I'm still here, right?), I have an email address (duh). I'm just not sure if people ouside of the US can sign. I remember a post that said that this will affect 100 miles of the US border (data access) and I am inside that region (though, I could misunderstood something), so any hints?

From other people who tried to (and those who could) create an account, what stuff the form asked (besides e-mail, first and last names)? Did the site asked for something else after e-mail confirmation? Why does an apple look "suggestive" when cut in half?

For your attention, thank you.

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nothing past the email confirmation

It seems likely that you can make/sign outside the US because some of the petitions I saw were very likely created by foreign people i.e.:
"Petition Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou to grant medical parole to jailed Chen Shui-bian as befits a civilized nation"

I'm betting that's not made by a US citizen, since they actually know the name of the Taiwanese President... that and they're actually caring about foreign affairs.

Either way, worst case is you try and can't sign, which is no worse than just not signing.

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Xch3l said:
From other people who tried to (and those who could) create an account, what stuff the form asked (besides e-mail, first and last names)? Did the site asked for something else after e-mail confirmation? Why does an apple look "suggestive" when cut in half?

In order:
Email, first name, last name, ZIP code (this would be the stumbling block...unless you wanted to fake it)
No
Because you're a pervert.

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Foobaria said:

I just want the tax money that would come from legal marijuana sales, like there is for alcohol and cigarettes.

I never understood why we don't treat addiction like the mental condition that it is.

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Snowy said:
In order:
Email, first name, last name, ZIP code (this would be the stumbling block...unless you wanted to fake it)
No
Because you're a pervert.

waddya mean? aaand yes, ZIP code...

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They banned print media porn, and porn in advertising though.

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