Topic: People who don't create artist wikis

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

Many artist tags don't have wikis associated with them
(artist wiki = the place with a list of gallery URLs)

Is it just laziness, or do people not know about this feature?

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Some people aren't good at writing wiki entries and prefer to leave it to people who are good at it.

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BlueDingo said:
Some people aren't good at writing wiki entries and prefer to leave it to people who are good at it.

Not good at copying & pasting URLs?

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Munkelzahn said:
Not good at copying & pasting URLs?

That's not sufficient to make an artist wiki page, which should go into more detail on things like the artist's medium, content, and characters as seen on the site.

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Munkelzahn said:
Many artist tags don't have wikis associated with them.

Is there anything wrong with this?

Artist pages make sense if there's anything to put there. Like more than one gallery url, some additional info. Otherwise, there's no point.

And galleries should not require human attention at all in most cases, at least not the way it's done now. Filtering source urls to get clean ready to use gallery urls can be done with a simple script for most source sites (FA, DA, Weasyl, whatever).

Also, some people apparently prefer gallery urls in the source field.
There was a thread on this I think.

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BlueDingo said:
Some people aren't good at writing wiki entries and prefer to leave it to people who are good at it.

FibS said:
That's not sufficient to make an artist wiki page, which should go into more detail on things like the artist's medium, content, and characters as seen on the site.

hslugs said:
Is there anything wrong with this?

Artist pages make sense if there's anything to put there. Like more than one gallery url, some additional info. Otherwise, there's no point.

And galleries should not require human attention at all in most cases, at least not the way it's done now. Filtering source urls to get clean ready to use gallery urls can be done with a simple script for most source sites (FA, DA, Weasyl, whatever).

Also, some people apparently prefer gallery urls in the source field.
There was a thread on this I think.

So it appears that people actually do not know about this.
Artist wiki is basically artists gallery URLs and other known nicknames, that's it. Can be found here: https://e621.net/artist and clicking artist wiki that doesn't exsist takes you to easily useable form: https://e621.net/artist/create?name=artistexample

I have created couple of those when I saw the form after checking one artist, but always either forget, don't check it or just don't think it's necessary when artist only posts on FA or similar.

Also no idea how to react to if artist has several nicknames and less popular has wiki.

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Mario69 said:
So it appears that people actually do not know about this.
Artist wiki is basically artists gallery URLs and other known nicknames, that's it. Can be found here: https://e621.net/artist and clicking artist wiki that doesn't exsist takes you to easily useable form: https://e621.net/artist/create?name=artistexample

I have created couple of those when I saw the form after checking one artist, but always either forget, don't check it or just don't think it's necessary when artist only posts on FA or similar.

Also no idea how to react to if artist has several nicknames and less popular has wiki.

I didn't know there was such a thing. Thanks for the heads-up.

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I always fill these in if there's any I notice, as far as I know there's no way to list artist tags without wikis.

Maybe somebody can make a list through the API or something? If there's a list I'll go through them

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Tuvalu said:
I always fill these in if there's any I notice, as far as I know there's no way to list artist tags without wikis.

Maybe somebody can make a list through the API or something? If there's a list I'll go through them

You can tag an artist without a wiki, actually. Simply write "Artist:Artist's_Name_Here" without the quotes into the tags on any upload and the site will list the artist's name in the appropriate area of the tags list.

I know this because I only created my wiki earlier today, but I have been using this system to tag my art since I joined the site.

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Mario69 said:
So it appears that people actually do not know about this.
Artist wiki is basically artists gallery URLs and other known nicknames, that's it.

exactly

FibS said:
That's not sufficient to make an artist wiki page, which should go into more detail on things like the artist's medium, content, and characters as seen on the site.

no need for a life story, just source links and stuff. oh, and maybe set whether or not they happen to be active.

and i just remembered something. should links to pics rather than profile pages be excluded? cause i've seem many artist tags have links to both a profile and/or a pic and it wouldn't show up correctly.

example of an artist tag done correctly.

example of an artist tag not done correctly. that dropbox link is probably why it's not showing the wiki page as the "creating artist" page.

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treos said:
exactly

no need for a life story, just source links and stuff. oh, and maybe set whether or not they happen to be active.

and i just remembered something. should links to pics rather than profile pages be excluded? cause i've seem many artist tags have links to both a profile and/or a pic and it wouldn't show up correctly.

example of an artist tag done correctly.

example of an artist tag not done correctly. that dropbox link is probably why it's not showing the wiki page as the "creating artist" page.

I never suggested "a life story".

I suggested things relevant to the artist so that people can check the artist page to see what to tag their work on the board.

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FibS said:
I never suggested "a life story".

I suggested things relevant to the artist so that people can check the artist page to see what to tag their work on the board.

Bad idea. We tag what we see, not what the artist intends.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Bad idea. We tag what we see, not what the artist intends.

I think FibS was referring to what name should be tagged on their work.

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BlueDingo said:
I think FibS was referring to what name should be tagged on their work.

They should all be aliased together, anyways. Not everybody knows to look at the artist page and will tag whichever name they found.

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Well um. Let's hope the site won't damage my precious snek formatting sure it does, bye bye empty lines.

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The code could be extended to update the wiki, but I'm lazy and I don't trust my coding ability that much.
Anyway, my point: no human intervention necessary.

treos said:
and i just remembered something. should links to pics rather than profile pages be excluded? cause i've seem many artist tags have links to both a profile and/or a pic and it wouldn't show up correctly.

The second example is a missing wiki page. Those links are e6 suggestions, not something users put there. Bad suggestions mind you, but still not human mistakes.

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