Topic: Commissioner - Character/Art owner tags

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

I went to look at some lulz ban reasons on the user records listing since it's a really good way to start a day, and just saw one record that is about this exact forum topic at hand.

Wouldn't that mean that the tag zapperzaku2 should finally be completely removed then ? This guy basically tagged himself as bragging rights for owning some pieces he bought from other artists (Seems to be untrue, hit me for that) and isn't an artist at all in this matter

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Neitsuke said:
I went to look at some lulz ban reasons on the user records listing since it's a really good way to start a day, and just saw one record that is about this exact forum topic at hand.

Wouldn't that mean that the tag zapperzaku2 should finally be completely removed then ? This guy basically tagged himself as bragging rights for owning some pieces he bought from other artists and isn't an artist at all in this matter

Sometimes commissioner tags can be quite important, see whitekitten for a good example.

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'Did take a look and, I can't exactly see what you mean by Important, you mean as an easy way to blacklist since that guy only focuses on that sort of stuff ? How about just blacklisting the general fetish tags instead

But then again, this is why I am asking this question in the first place, because I'm seeing contradictions everywhere

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It doesnt look like he tagged himself looks more like uploader tags for a lot of them.

I sunno if this is some sort of personal vendetta against the guy or something but either way I dont think a personal attack or callout is acceptable or necessary.

That said Im not exactly opposed to commissioner tags. Frankly they can be a pretty useful way to track. Specific content if theyre well known enough.

Or block it.

Ie: togepi, and the macro starfox pics.

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Neitsuke said:
'Did take a look and, I can't exactly see what you mean by Important, you mean as an easy way to blacklist since that guy only focuses on that sort of stuff ? How about just blacklisting the general fetish tags instead

But then again, this is why I am asking this question in the first place, because I'm seeing contradictions everywhere

It's more than just similar themes. It's more like a series of original content and crossovers, focusing on the 'WOMB facility' he created as well as the world and culture that surrounds it..

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I don't have a focused "vendetta" against the guy, but I do hate any sort of "attentionwhoring" done in general (Here, people buying their fame with money instead of actually working for it)

Not sure how this could be seen as a callout, I'm not saying how the guy is an idiot because he did that, but I'm pointing out the fact that I'm just seen an admin action about just that and it made me remember about this one person in particular : The only reason being because I do have a somewhat really good memory on events post ( post #616855 ) My comments left there are actually some sort of calling out, at least more than asking for some precision about if it should be permitted or not

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I dunno if you know Zapperzaku at all but he primarily commissions a couple very specific things too and even fits on the list in some ways.

Plus the guy's actually (well known to be) a pretty nice guy so it seemed odd to me that youd call them by name.

But attentionwhoring is not really something you should be complaining about. People might accuse you of jealousy etc and that would be just as awful right?

Also in the case of ocs or concepts, a person who is not an artist themselves having their name used as a form of personal copyright is very useful.

Such as what jakxxx3 brought up.

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Checking the post you meant the dude even says hes not the one tagging those posts at all.

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I did look at many tags edits and he does seem to not actually tag himself as the one guy who spent money on stuff, so this is actually a good sight to be seeing.
I still do not understand this whole "It makes it very useful" Like I said, if you really like/don't like a theme in the first place, there are general tags for them. To me it just sounds like anything with maple syrup and hockey events should be tagged with Canada because they're heavy Canadian themed, or something, it just sounds unnecessary.

I can't even imaging how of a mess it would be if any commissioner would have to be tagged, and how I still can't think of anything beneficial beside the fact that some people only commission very specific stuff, where global tags can be used instead of grouping a specific theme under an individual's f/name - This is for the exact same reason that I find the tag Undertail extremely stupid (on Tumblr, where that have NSFW searching disabled by default, and on InkBunny too, I think)

I'm really just asking what's the actual consensus about that. Someone got a negative score for doing just that, while it actually seems completely fine to do so

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No, commissioners shouldn't be noted in the tags, those are directly about the work. Noting it in the description wouldn't be out of order, however.

Neitsuke said:
This is for the exact same reason that I find the tag Undertail extremely stupid (on Tumblr, where that have NSFW searching disabled by default, and on InkBunny too, I think)

The "undertail" tag on tumblr is a request from the creator.

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It still doesn't change the fact that this is really dumb and unnecessary, and doesn't bring anything that's needed, because if you want to find explicit Undertale stuff on Tumblr, search Undertale with NSFW turned on (The fact that he actually refuses people to tag explicit stuff with the nsfw tag actually sounds ludicrous). If the only reason to be doing that is to protect the unfortunates from seeing big boobies goatmoms, take a look at this great article that will explain how this reason sounds really stupid

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Don't you just love it when someone with poor grammar who doesn't proofread their posts tries to tell people off for something they don't fully understand, only to be swiftly shut down by the image equivalent of a form letter?

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BlueDingo said:
Don't you just love it when someone with poor grammar who doesn't proofread their posts tries to tell people off for something they don't fully understand, only to be swiftly shut down by the image equivalent of a form letter?

I myself love it when people go out of their way to be snarky and mean when a polite explanation would suffice.

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tkongingi said:
I myself love it when people go out of their way to be snarky and mean when a polite explanation would suffice.

Just so we're clear, the snark was directed at the page Neitsuke linked.

As for the current discussion, I don't think we're supposed to tag commissioners, just artists. You don't need the name of someone who commissions a particular type of content to be able to find/avoid that content. Searching or blacklisting macro star_fox works just fine.

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As genjar mentioned the main reason we /dont/ commonly tag the commissioner is because sometimes an artist commissions art. Now imagine how impossible it would be to differentiate between those two scenarios purely from a single tag.

Anyway. I feel like commissioners, that is people who ONLY commission and are not artists themselves but Very clearly have a specific signature... that is a unique world/property etc that is consistent within the works they commission (like whitekitten mentioned earlier) then I suppose it would be okay to use them in the fashion a copyright tag is used. But thats a special case.

Eitherway the topic at hand seems to be generated more out of a peeve/spite than an actual discussion point. So long story short is we most oft generally Do not tag the commissioner. But putting them in the description is fine.

Wanting your name attached to your characters or commissioned works is nothing new and nothing to get salty over. If someone wants to be recognized for having made something possible having it in the description is fine and thats not bragging. At all.

Also, Neitsuke the thing youre xomplaining about right now is not only topic irrelevant but an extremely tumblr centric issue. When put into perspective those special tags are also used to actually /help/ people find nsfw work easier so they dont have to wade through a tag full of bullshit and garbage. Its almost like having multiple tags to specify specific things is a good thing and the basis upon which this site were on works.

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