Topic: Tag Implication: backwards_virgin_killer_sweater -> virgin_killer_sweater

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I'm ambivalent on implying DIW, but I wouldn't say that it would be a wardrobe malfunction, as that involves a failure of the clothing (slipped off, burst, etc).

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Oh. My first thought was that one album. I'd link to it here but it's...well I won't link it here. If anyone wants to google it, they can do so after a brief description:

"Virgin Killer is the fourth studio album by German heavy metal band Scorpions. ... The original cover art for the album depicted a nude ten-year-old girl, with a shattered glass effect obscuring her genitalia."

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parasprite said:
Oh. My first thought was that one album. I'd link to it here but it's...well I won't link it here. If anyone wants to google it, they can do so after a brief description:

"Virgin Killer is the fourth studio album by German heavy metal band Scorpions. ... The original cover art for the album depicted a nude ten-year-old girl, with a shattered glass effect obscuring her genitalia."

What the fuck. They were allowed to even do that in the first place? Are child-protection laws different there?

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imagoober said:
I'm ambivalent on implying DIW, but I wouldn't say that it would be a wardrobe malfunction, as that involves a failure of the clothing (slipped off, burst, etc).

I brought them up because some of the posts are already tagged with them. So someone thinks it is those things.

Furrin_Gok said:
What the fuck. They were allowed to even do that in the first place? Are child-protection laws different there?

Long quotes from the article so you don't have to click it

The original cover featured a nude prepubescent girl, which stirred controversy in the UK, US and elsewhere. As a result, the album was re-issued with a different cover in some countries.

The success of Virgin Killer was similar to other Scorpions albums featuring Uli Jon Roth as lead guitarist; it "failed to attain any serious attention in the United States" but was "quite popular in Japan"[6] where it peaked at number 32 in the charts.

We didn't actually have the idea. It was the record company. The record company guys were like, "Even if we have to go to jail, there's no question that we'll release that." On the song "Virgin Killer", time is the virgin killer. But then, when we had to do the interviews about it, we said "Look, listen to the lyrics and then you'll know what we're talking about. We're using this only to get attention. That's what we do." Even the girl, when we met her fifteen years later, had no problem with the cover. Growing up in Europe, sexuality, of course not with children, was very normal. The lyrics really say it all. Time is the virgin killer. A kid comes into the world very naive, they lose that naiveness and then go into this life losing all of this getting into trouble. That was the basic idea about all of it.

In 2008, photographer Michael von Gimbut emphasized that his wife, the model's mother and sister, and three female assistants had been present during the shooting and stated, "Back then, we loved and protected children and did not sleep with them."

Back in those days [the 1970s] it was RCA, our record label then, went over the edge with Virgin Killer. Today when you think of child pornography on the net, you would never do something like that. We never did this in the sense of pornography, we did it in the sense of art. It is about the song and the label was pushing the idea because they wanted to get the controversy to help the album sale and you cannot get better promotion than that. Looking back from the band point of view it was never an album cover that we took home to our parents and said, "Look what we just released.." There was always mixed feelings about it and even 30 years later it caused a scandal at Wikipedia because the site for that album was blocked and even the FBI was getting involved. All of that after so many years, can you believe that?

In August 2015, a court in Sweden said that it considered the album cover to be child pornography.

In December 2008, the Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), a UK-based non-government organization, added the Wikipedia article Virgin Killer to its internet blacklist due to concerns over legality of the image, which had been assessed as the lowest level of legal concern: "erotic posing with no sexual activity".[26] As a result, people using many major UK ISPs were blocked from viewing the entire article by the Cleanfeed system,[26][27][28] and a large part of the UK was blocked from editing Wikipedia owing to the means of blocking in use. Following representations by the Wikimedia Foundation (who host the Wikipedia website)[29] and public complaints,[30] the IWF reversed their decision three days later and confirmed that in future they would not block copies of the image that were hosted overseas.[4] The IWF stated that one of the reasons for reversing their decision was that it had increased public interest in the image, an example of the Streisand effect.

From another article:

[...] the image in question is potentially in breach of the Protection of Children Act 1978. However, the IWF Board has today (9 December 2008) considered these findings and the contextual issues involved in this specific case and, in light of the length of time the image has existed and its wide availability, the decision has been taken to remove this webpage from our list.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation criticised the IWF's reasoning:[41] "We agree with their decision [to reverse the ban], but they have the wrong reasoning [for the reversal]: they had no business censoring that article in the first place — the community of Wikipedia editors is if anything the more legitimate, reliable and grown-up adjudicator of which images are appropriate subject matter for an encyclopaedia."

The IWF continues to assert that the image is indeed child porn, and asserts that the image would be blocked if it were on a British server.[42]

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imagoober said:
I'm ambivalent on implying DIW, but I wouldn't say that it would be a wardrobe malfunction, as that involves a failure of the clothing (slipped off, burst, etc).

It's not a failure of the clothing itself if you just use it wrong. A wardrobe_malfunction would be like if the top strap broke and the sweater fell open, this is just characters putting the sweater on backwards.

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