Topic: Tag idea: pseudo_clothing

Posted under Tag/Wiki Projects and Questions

I noticed that some characters (especially pokémon) even when naked, seem to be wearing some kind of clothing, so I thought about create the tag pseudo_clothing.

Tag description ↓

When a body part of a character have an obvious resemblance with some kind of clothing

e.g. post #395073

This tag shouldn't be used in the following situations:

  • If the character has a body part that reminds some kind of clothing, but this resemblance isn't obvious enough.

e.g. post #486609

  • If the body part in question mimic perfectly some kind of clothing, to the point that not even looks like a body part.

e.g. post #426677

Updated by Aurass

Sounds really useful, +1 from me

(if an existing tag doesn't already exist for it)

Updated by anonymous

It seems to be a species trait, and not really something that could appear on any kind of image. In this case, it's just very long fur that grows in the shape of clothing, but it seems to be only native to certain pokemon, and if someone wanted to see such.. long fur, he could simply search for the pokemon type instead. Do you have examples of anything other than a delphox? I mean, if it only applies to a couple of pokemon, then unfortunately it's not a very useful tag.

Updated by anonymous

There are some observations about this characteristic:

  • The artist can portray any pseudo_clothing as real clothes making the tag inapplicable.

e.g. post #369141

  • Besides this characteristic be commonly related to pokémon, it can be found in other species.

e.g. post #633306

Examples of some pokémon that possibly have pseudo_clothing:

Updated by anonymous

Delian said:
Maybe growing_clothes or body_clothes would be more descriptive then.

"Character who's body parts (skin, feathers, fur...) grow in the shape of clothes".

Maybe, but I think the tag should make as clear as possible that these structures aren't clothes. This is because these body parts does not truely work like clothes: the character can't remove them, and they occasionaly don't cover the genitals.

e.g. post #893630 post #753494 post #265152

I understood what you said, but in my viewpoint both body_clothes and growing_clothes would sound a little confusing.

I proposed pseudo_clothing, because that means exactly what I wanted to state: "it seems clothing, but isn't".

Updated by anonymous

Hmm, growing_clothes could be confused to mean that clothes are growing in size. So that one isn't good.

pseudo_clothing also isn't good because "pseudo" means "false," "pretended," "unreal,". However, these clothes are very much real, and serving their purpose.

Perhaps you meant to use the prefix quasi-, that is, quasi_clothing. Quasi meaning, "resembling" . That one is relatively good.

The most specific term for this would be clothes_as_bodypart, but that one might be too long. However, if shortened to body_clothing it could probably work.

It's kinda hard to choose.
quasi_clothing, body_clothing, clothes_as_bodypart. Anyone care to vote?

Updated by anonymous

I think this is a good tag, however I also think it should only apply to when something functions like clothing, not just looks like it.

Things like Delphox and Gardevoir's "gowns", and Leggy Lamb's dress fur work because they are designed like clothes: they cover up their nude bodies. It doesn't even have to cover genitals or private parts, like Decidueye's "hood". Since Decidueye can pull on it's strings and cover its face, it works like clothing, despite it being not.

However, things like Lucario's thighs shouldn't really apply because, well for one thing even though people say it, I never really thought that Lucario had shorts on, I just thought he had thick hips and a nice ass. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

But also because of things like this:
post #1035710

When I see pseudo_clothing, I assume that something is acting like clothing even though it is not. Yet Lucario, and Blaziken, are both completely exposed. Not only that, but Lucario's thighs no longer look like they are shaped like clothes, they look like actual legs. Nothing about him looks like clothing.

I know what you're trying to mean, and for the most part I agree. However, I feel that the tag will work best if both design and functionality are present in the post. That's my opinion on the tag. What do you think?

Updated by anonymous

Winged-Lucario said:
I think this is a good tag, however I also think it should only apply to when something functions like clothing, not just looks like it.

Things like Delphox and Gardevoir's "gowns", and Leggy Lamb's dress fur work because they are designed like clothes: they cover up their nude bodies. It doesn't even have to cover genitals or private parts, like Decidueye's "hood". Since Decidueye can pull on it's strings and cover its face, it works like clothing, despite it being not.

However, things like Lucario's thighs shouldn't really apply because, well for one thing even though people say it, I never really thought that Lucario had shorts on, I just thought he had thick hips and a nice ass. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

But also because of things like this:
post #1035710

When I see pseudo_clothing, I assume that something is acting like clothing even though it is not. Yet Lucario, and Blaziken, are both completely exposed. Not only that, but Lucario's thighs no longer look like they are shaped like clothes, they look like actual legs. Nothing about him looks like clothing.

I know what you're trying to mean, and for the most part I agree. However, I feel that the tag will work best if both design and functionality are present in the post. That's my opinion on the tag. What do you think?

Interesting point, in your example the tag really have low applicability, however the thicker fur in lucario's torso along with the black marks in his waist and shoulders resemble a shirt, if this resemblance is obvious enough to use the tag may vary according the viewer (some may say "no", some may say "yes", I am more in the "no" side). Personally, when using this tag I focus in skin/fur/feather prolongations and in areas with thicker fur/feather covering, in any situation outside these I only would tag "pseudo_clothing" if the resemblance were truely obvious (e.g.).

Should have a balance between the functional and the esthetic (inclining more to the esthetic side). In this post for example, the character's cape work like a hat (a hat ,primarialy, protect the head against sunlight and a mushroom cape protect the spore capsules in the same way), but does that structure really looks enough like a hat?

Updated by anonymous

O16 said:
Interesting point, in your example the tag really have low applicability, however the thicker fur in lucario's torso along with the black marks in his waist and shoulders resemble a shirt, if this resemblance is obvious enough to use the tag may vary according the viewer (some may say "no", some may say "yes", I am more in the "no" side). Personally, when using this tag I focus in skin/fur/feather prolongations and in areas with thicker fur/feather covering, in any situation outside these I only would tag "pseudo_clothing" if the resemblance were truely obvious (e.g.).

Should have a balance between the functional and the esthetic (inclining more to the esthetic side). In this post for example, the character's cape work like a hat (a hat ,primarialy, protect the head against sunlight and a mushroom cape protect the spore capsules in the same way), but does that structure really looks enough like a hat?

Sorry about this late post, I went on break before your response, and I completely forgot about it, but I do admit that the first time I saw Lucario, I thought he looked more like he was wearing a shirt, so I guess that does look like clothing.

For the mushroom post, it's kind of hard to tell, due to the fact that it is hard to signify what looks like what on something that doesn't have a humanoid body, but if people do see it as a hat or a cape, then I guess it has the appearance.

It's an interesting tag, and I agree it belongs. I guess whether people look more to the appearance or the practicality, both work at classifying it as false clothing.

Updated by anonymous

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