Topic: Tag Alias: male/female_symbol -> ⚥

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Because that's not a standard symbol available on average keyboards, we can't do that. People would start complaining that they can't type it.

The alias should be the other way around, unicode into alphanumeric, like how goes to <3.

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Furrin_Gok said:
Because that's not a standard symbol available on average keyboards, we can't do that. People would start complaining that they can't type it.

The alias should be the other way around, unicode into alphanumeric, like how goes to <3.

male_symbol is aliased to ♂ and same with female_symbol
Neither are generally available without special programs or using alt codes.

It can be typed using alt codes(using alt + 26A5) just like the other aliases, but only if "HKEY_Current_User/Control Panel/Input Method" has it's REG_SZ entry EnableHexNumpad set to 1.

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Chaser said:
male_symbol is aliased to ♂ and same with female_symbol
Neither are generally available without special programs or using alt codes.

It can be typed using alt codes(using alt + 26A5) just like the other aliases, but only if "HKEY_Current_User/Control Panel/Input Method" has it's REG_SZ entry EnableHexNumpad set to 1.

"26A5" is exactly the problem. People (Like me) have no idea how to enable that HKEY thing.

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Even ⚥n a platform where it works without configuration (GTK apps on Linux are the only thing on this list AFAICS) , who wants to remember a bunch of hex codes when they could remember a simple phrase?

A character map program with a description search function (eg Ctrl+F male) isn't bad, but I can't imagine people firing it up just for tagging.

If you alias to a symbol, people will also have to check out the wiki page for that symbol in order to know that the plain-English way to search it is male/female_symbol.

IMO (and also according to general policy AFAIK), this alias should not be approved, and the other symbolic aliases should be reversed.

EDIT: This page of "Useful unicode symbols" is interesting.

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+1 for reversing those aliases. Where ambiguity is a problem (e.g., ♦ -> diamond), we can always use diamond_(symbol) or diamond_symbol as a default.

The main ones can be found on the symbol wiki.

savageorange said:
EDIT: This page of "Useful unicode symbols" is interesting.

> Useful unicode symbols
> 🎳 1F3B3 bowling
pls

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parasprite said:
+1 for reversing those aliases. Where ambiguity is a problem (e.g., ♦ -> diamond), we can always use diamond_(symbol) or diamond_symbol as a default.

The main ones can be found on the symbol wiki.

> Useful unicode symbols
>  1F3B3 bowling
pls

>☿ (Mercury, hermaphrodite)
Huh, so ☿ means "Hermaphrodite" specifically, and ⚥ just means "Intersex" in general (Cuntboy, dickgirl, etc). Meanwhile, ⚧ means transgender.

Edit: Also, why does that symbol quote as a square? I can copypaste it just fine, but when quoted it turns into .

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Furrin_Gok said:
Edit: Also, why does that symbol quote as a square? I can copypaste it just fine, but when quoted it turns into .

I noticed that earlier, I thought it was just my phone so I shrugged it off, but maybe it's e6 doing it? Somehow it's changing U+1F3B3 into U+F3B3.

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Tuvalu said:
I noticed that earlier, I thought it was just my phone so I shrugged it off, but maybe it's e6 doing it? Somehow it's changing U+1F3B3 into U+F3B3.

Huh, a unicode for Kanji? Did not know Unicode did that. And my computer doesn't support it, and I instead use a Japanese font pack.

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Furrin_Gok said:
>☿ (Mercury, hermaphrodite)
Huh, so ☿ means "Hermaphrodite" specifically, and ⚥ just means "Intersex" in general (Cuntboy, dickgirl, etc). Meanwhile, ⚧ means transgender.

Edit: Also, why does that symbol quote as a square? I can copypaste it just fine, but when quoted it turns into .

It's probably something related to javascript not interpreting the encoding properly. I've noticed this in the past but I wasn't in a position yet to see how easy it was to fix.

But now I am so I'll add that to my buglist to remind me. :)

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Genjar

Former Staff

I rarely use symbol tags. Because it takes time to look up the combinations to actually type those, and in that time I could've tagged several other things.

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I can't even display ⚥ properly, let alone type it, so good thing this was reversed.

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Is there even a point to making this alias? I get that all people would have to do is type the aliased term into the tags and it would automagically change it to the corresponding icon, but what about searching? This is just another case of a time-wasting alias, as in it doesn't actually need to be a thing.

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Ratte

Former Staff

Faux-Pa said:
Is there even a point to making this alias? I get that all people would have to do is type the aliased term into the tags and it would automagically change it to the corresponding icon, but what about searching? This is just another case of a time-wasting alias, as in it doesn't actually need to be a thing.

Off-chance someone uses the symbol for searching.

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Genjar

Former Staff

Ratte said:
⚥ → male/female_symbol
female/male_symbol → male/female_symbol

Actually, this seems problematic. The discussion focused so much on the difficulty of typing those that we seem to have overlooked how the tag is being used.

  • ⚥ has been tagged 64 times, but looks like it's mostly been tagged for herms, not for the symbol.
  • There's an intersex_symbol tag, which is for the same symbol.
  • and are currently aliased the other way around, and are also getting mistagged for generic male and female instead of the symbols.

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Ratte

Former Staff

Genjar said:
Actually, this seems problematic. The discussion focused so much on the difficulty of typing those that we seem to have overlooked how the tag is being used.

  • ⚥ has been tagged 64 times, but looks like it's mostly been tagged for herms, not for the symbol.
  • There's an intersex_symbol tag, which is for the same symbol.
  • and are currently aliased the other way around, and are also getting mistagged for generic male and female instead of the symbols.

If things are being tagged for the gender and not for the symbol, those tags should be cleaned. I aliased them how I did to comply with the standard keyboard settings, where for some the symbol won't even display properly and this symbol's alt code is in a different class than the others. If need be I could put them all towards the intersex symbol as well since I didn't know that was already here.

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Ratte said:
added:
herm_symbol -> male/female_symbol
hermaphrodite_symbol -> male/female_symbol

Left out futa and dickgirl as they would not apply. futa is aliased to intersex and not all intersex are herm.

But,

Furrin_Gok said:
>☿ (Mercury, hermaphrodite)
Huh, so ☿ means "Hermaphrodite" specifically, and ⚥ just means "Intersex" in general (Cuntboy, dickgirl, etc). Meanwhile, ⚧ means transgender.

Herm specifically is a different symbol.

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