Topic: Tag Implication: horn_ring -> horn

Posted under Tag Alias and Implication Suggestions

Is it only a horn ring when it's on a horn, or could one be shown just sitting there? Say on a jewelry shop shelf or something. Suggestions like these get shot down pretty frequently on those kinds of grounds if they can appear totally exclusively.

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notnobody said:
Is it only a horn ring when it's on a horn, or could one be shown just sitting there? Say on a jewelry shop shelf or something. Suggestions like these get shot down pretty frequently on those kinds of grounds if they can appear totally exclusively.

Wiki says that horn_ring should be tagged when a ring is placed on a character's horn.

Now if a ring is just sitting there, then it's just called a ring_(jewelry).

Same can be said to horn_piercing (which IS implicated with horn).

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notnobody said:
Is it only a horn ring when it's on a horn, or could one be shown just sitting there? Say on a jewelry shop shelf or something. Suggestions like these get shot down pretty frequently on those kinds of grounds if they can appear totally exclusively.

you cannot tag it as horn ring if you cant see that its a horn ring. and you cannot see that its a horn ring unless its on horn or being put on/taken off a horn. its just a regular ring otherwise.

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Pretty clear case, then. +1 to that and BD's ring suggestion too.

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Ledian said:
you cannot tag it as horn ring if you cant see that its a horn ring. and you cannot see that its a horn ring unless its on horn or being put on/taken off a horn. its just a regular ring otherwise.

Would a display bust's horns still count as horns?

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+1. If not being worn on a horn it would look much like a simple ring (or a bracelet, depending of its radius).

BlueDingo said:

Also horn_ring I-> ring because it's a ring.

Better not, I guess we should keep 'ring' exclusively for finger and toe rings, instead of using it to any ring-like jewellery.

Genjar said:
Would this also count as jewelry? I can't think of any possible exceptions.

Though maybe we should tag horn_jewelry instead, to keep it uniform with the other tags such as tail_jewelry...

+1 for implication to 'horn_jewelry'. Not only horn rings are horn jewelry, but also exist other types of horn jewelries (although they aren't so common).

e.g.post #186993 green pendent thing.

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Edit:

Actually, perhaps we should consider using 'horn_ornament' since it is still accurate and is more inclusive, encompassing posts like this one:

post #1142351

Proposed organization:

¹ Adapitation of dice's idea.

DiceLovesBeingBlown said:
+1. I'd also recommend this be implicated to furgonomics, since it's a furry specific form of clothing/jewelry.

+1. humans may have "horns" as well, but that is a mere exception.

Edit: see commentary made towards Genjar's post.

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Genjar said:
Would this also count as jewelry? I can't think of any possible exceptions.

Though maybe we should tag horn_jewelry instead, to keep it uniform with the other tags such as tail_jewelry...

tail_ring is way more popular than tail_jewelry (1426 vs. 46).

notnobody said:
Is it only a horn ring when it's on a horn, or could one be shown just sitting there? Say on a jewelry shop shelf or something. Suggestions like these get shot down pretty frequently on those kinds of grounds if they can appear totally exclusively.

Like Ledian said, it's only a horn ring when the ring is on a horn. When it isn't, it's just a ring. Just like a toe ring without a toe is just a ring, a tail ring without a tail is just a ring, etc.

O16 said:

Proposed organization:

¹ Adapitation of dice's idea.

That's quite a few steps but it does make sense.

horn_ring I→ horn_jewelry I→ horn_ornament I→ furgonomics.

Should we squeeze furry-specific_jewelry in there somewhere or would that be too much?

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BlueDingo said:

That's quite a few steps but it does make sense.

horn_ring I→ horn_jewelry I→ horn_ornament I→ furgonomics.

Should we squeeze furry-specific_jewelry in there somewhere or would that be too much?

Maybe it work, I can see some usefulness in a tag for furry-specific ornaments in general (encompassing horn, tail, wings etc.). If my memory doesn't fool me, you have been working on a related subject matter, right?

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O16 said:
Maybe it work, I can see some usefulness in a tag for furry-specific ornaments in general (encompassing horn, tail, wings etc.). If my memory doesn't fool me, you have been working on a related subject matter, right?

You mean this? Yeah, I'm still slowly adding images to those sets since there's no tags for them yet.

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