We've needed this one for a while now. Could be a bow_(weapon), a bow_tie or hair_bow, or even bowing, among others.

I couldn't make an official alias suggestion, because we currently have bows -> bow.

+1, but what should bow (the ribbon/etc) be called now then? bow_(knot)?

Just to add some less often used that are not in the wiki:

• nipple_bow
• bow_on_penis
• bow_panties
• <color>_bow (various colors)
• hat_bow

For slightly less ambiguity I'd favor bow_on_*/bow_in_* over *_bow.

There are also some implications that could be made concerning the current bow tags and it's children.

Speaking of bows we also have a problem with quiver being used for both the arrow/dart/bolt container and the trembling motion.

I wish I could disambiguate this one. Unfortunately the tag is huge right now and without an obvious place to move the tag to I'm hesitant to approve it at this point.

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I vote "Bow_and_arrow" because parenthesis suck, although an arrow might not necessarily be visible, so...

Fenrick said:
I vote "Bow_and_arrow" because parenthesis suck, although an arrow might not necessarily be visible, so...

It doesn't hurt having bow_(weapon) and arrow as separate tags. Who knows when an image has only one of each...

parasprite said:
I wish I could disambiguate this one. Unfortunately the tag is huge right now and without an obvious place to move the tag to I'm hesitant to approve it at this point.

Over 9000? Ugh.
...I'll start chipping away at it, little by little.

There's also bow_(stringed_instrument). (We could probably rename that to something shorter, such as bow_(music).)

Two months later, down to 7500 posts.
This is going slowly. It's not relevant to my interests, and I have more important projects. Could use a few more hands on this, it's unlikely to be finished anytime soon otherwise.

Genjar said:
Two months later, down to 7500 posts.
This is going slowly. It's not relevant to my interests, and I have more important projects. Could use a few more hands on this, it's unlikely to be finished anytime soon otherwise.

Mind telling me what you'd need to disambiguate? Or, more importantly, what I'd need to do? I can start taking out chunks of bow if you want.

Siral_Exan said:
Mind telling me what you'd need to disambiguate? Or, more importantly, what I'd need to do? I can start taking out chunks of bow if you want.

All instances of bow should be removed and replaced with a more specific tag, such as one (or more) of these:

• bow_(stringed_instrument)
• bow_(weapon)
• bow_tie
• bowing
• crossbow
• hair_bow
• nipple_bow
• ribbons
• tail_bow

...etc.

Genjar said:
A bunch of links to bow pages!

So then, on bows that are on the head, but do not have hair (say they are a scalie or an animatronic), do I tag it Hair_Bow or Ribbon? I've been doing hair_bow for them, and it auto-associates hair with it. So, in extension, should we get rid of that association, if hair_bow also applies to characters without hair?

Siral_Exan said:
So then, on bows that are on the head, but do not have hair (say they are a scalie or an animatronic), do I tag it Hair_Bow or Ribbon? I've been doing hair_bow for them, and it auto-associates hair with it. So, in extension, should we get rid of that association, if hair_bow also applies to characters without hair?

is not implied by hair_bow. The order of implications is hair_bow -> hair_ribbon¹ -> ribbons.
¹Because you can have ribbons without tying them into a bow, I guess? We need a wiki page for that one

Furrin_Gok said:
Hair is not implied by hair_bow. The order of implications is hair_bow -> hair_ribbon¹ -> ribbons.
¹Because you can have ribbons without tying them into a bow, I guess? We need a wiki page for that one

Alright, it was pure coincidence: I did not notice the hair tag before tagging hair_bow. Just tried it out now, so you're right.

On the hair ribbons part, yes you can, but no artist'd do it. Just do a normal knot, not a butterfly or ribbon knot, and both ends hang out without the loops. So, if there are images of ribbons knotted like that, despite being on the hair or etc., it'd be tagged ribbon and not bow.

Or so I see. Bows should only apply to the butterfly knots, I think. We do need a definition on *area* ribbons.

Also, new tag? https://e621.net/post/show/825510 Horn_bow ? Or keep it as ribbon?

Siral_Exan said:
Also, new tag? https://e621.net/post/show/825510 Horn_bow ? Or keep it as ribbon?

Oh right, those. I already tagged horn_bow for post #592228. Seems just as valid as tail_bow, etc.

Genjar said:
Oh right, those. I already tagged horn_bow for post #592228. Seems just as valid as tail_bow, etc.

How apt, as soon as you say that I find another one that applies: https://e621.net/post/show/824742

Oh, great. It also seems that I may have made a new tag: Neck_Bow. Unlike bow_ties, which are always on the front, neck bows are to the side or on the back of the neck. I've always called 'em neck_bows as such. New tag and associate them, or change to bow_tie?

*edit* actually, it seems more that we'll need some association: Ear_Bow also doesn't get associated with ribbon. Neither does Bow_Tie...

I think we can fix it like this:
Bow_tie->neck_ribbon->ribbon
Neck_bow->neck_ribbon->ribbon
Ear_bow->head_ribbon*->ribbon
Head_ribbon would replace hair_ribbon

bump because we'll have to deal with this sooner or later